My daughter's school is driving me nuts!

United States
November 6, 2007 7:38pm CST
My daughter is a first grader, and she has been being harrassed at school. A few weeks ago two boys pushed her down on the playground and rubbed her face in the dirt. The school gave the kids a 10 minute time out from recess. Two weeks after that the same boys attempted the same thing, but since my daughter was able to get away the school said that there is nothing they can do as no harm was done. Today one of the boys went up to my daughter and told her that he was going to punch her in the face. Then he took a swing at her. I got a phone message from the teacher that the boy threatened to hit my daughter, but I didn't find out about the swing until my daughter told me about it this afternoon. The teacher said that the boy was in the time out room, but I just don't feel that this is enough. The boy's parents haven't even been notified of the issues. I'm so fed up! I called the police department this evening to find out what I can do since the school doesn't seem to be taking action. The officer I spoke with was horrified that the school isn't doing anything to punish the boys and make the parents aware of the situation. He suggested taking this issue to the superintendent in our district. If that doesn't work we can try to get the information on where the boy lives and have the police talk with the parents, but the likelyhood of getting the information is pretty slim. Any ideas of what more we can do if the superintendent can't get something done? Has anyone else dealt with a similar situation?
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24 responses
• Australia
7 Nov 07
Teachers are my pet hate for this reason. Even though I've been told they pay a good wage I will never ever be a teacher unless it's for a college institution. If I ever have children my husband is dealing with the teachers I'll deal with puberty. It's not that uncommon for teachers to act like this. It's been happening for years. When I was a child I had a cold and couldn't go to the swimming carnival. My parents didn't want to make it worse. I was put in a lower class for the day and the teacher went up to the class and declared me stupid for not going. I didn't hear this but my brother was in this class and told me and my parents. My father went all the way to the top. Go to the highest person you can go to. Trust me they'll come running once it hits the fan. That's just one story I have plenty more.
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• United States
7 Nov 07
Wow, that is so sad. Good idea about letting your husband handle the teachers if you have kids. Maybe I should go that route and then I would stop stressing about this! Just kidding, I would still be stressed. It sounds good, though.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
7 Nov 07
Call Child Protective Services they will launch a full investigation into why the school is not protecting your daughter and not notifying the boys parents. Heard a similar complaint a few days ago on another site and the mother called CPS and now the school and counselor and teacher are in trouble for not taking things more serious. This is very frightening to your child and the boys could seriously hurt her.
• United States
7 Nov 07
I had never thought about that, but I will keep it in mind. Thank you. I think this would be an absolutely last resort, but it feels good to have some ideas in mind.
• Canada
7 Nov 07
If it were me I'd be down at the school threatening to send the story to the newspapers if nothing was done about the situation. This boy threatening your daughter is the same as you going to the school and threatening to hit one of your daughters teachers, and you could get in big trouble for that so why aren't they treating this situation the same. The police shouldn't have a problem getting them to cooperate. I'm sure the school could be charged because the boy in question is threatening bodily harm and they refuse to do anything about it. Good luck hun Hope you can get this resolved.
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• Canada
7 Nov 07
Well yea you hear about this kind of think all too many times nowadays and schools preach about how they are stopping bullies but I don't see them doing very much especially in this case. Back when I was in school if someone said that another person was threatening them they would call them to the office, talk to them, call their parents and if it was a bad enough threat the police were called. I just don't understand why schools are being so nieve. Our kids are going to suffer in the long run over this and alot of kids take their own lives because of bullies. I for one think this needs to stop and I wish more parents and school would get involved in trying to stop bullying.
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• United States
7 Nov 07
oh thats a good idea! ive heard a number of stories on my local news about "dangers of school bullies" and the like, what signs to look for and stuff. that should scare them! and would make the District take a closer look for sure!
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• United States
7 Nov 07
My neighbor had this same idea. I am definately going to keep it in mind. This would be another thing I would keep in mind as a last resort, but it's a good idea. My big fear with going too far on the issue is that my daughter will be treated differently by the school administration and her teacher after that. Thanks for the idea!
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 07
The principal and teachers of that school is plain stupid for not doing any action... this is a clear case of bullying and i am sure that your daughter is already traumatized by all thouse incidents...i agree with the police officer that you have to go to the superintendent of the district and file your own complain against those running the school... it will also help if you find the parents of the boys and have a heart to heart talk with them... If those boys are doing it at a young age... just imagine what they can and will do when they are already grown ups...
• United States
7 Nov 07
I was thinking the same thing about imagining what these boys are going to act like as grown ups. It's pretty scary when you think about it.
@gwendovere (1279)
• United States
7 Nov 07
If you can, you should probably either (a)get her into a different school or (b)homeschool her. That's ridiculous & if the school won't help, you probably need to get her out.
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• United States
7 Nov 07
Thanks for the idea about homeschooling. Unfortunately that is just not an option. I am NOT good at teaching things. Looking into another school is definately an option, though. I just need to get my husband to back me up on that.
• United States
8 Nov 07
Preschool? That is so sad. I'm sure it was a relief when that family moved!
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
7 Nov 07
I am so sorry this is happening to you. We had a similar situation with my daughters Preschool last year. PRESCHOOL! Luckily the ringleader of the bullying moved and things are better now. I used to think I couldn't teach my child, but my husband and I are considering it. And there are tons of sites on the internet to show you how as well. Anything is better than what we went through last year. Take care and good luck
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@hyzz1982 (1040)
• China
7 Nov 07
OMG,i am really astonish about that. where is the resposbility of the shcool? what are the teachers do? why they have not told the boy's parents and punish the boy? if the girl were their girl how would they do? they are so absurdity. i suggest you go to visit the master or more high authorities of the school. also you can waiting for the boy's parents after the class and tell them what the boy had done, and tell the boy if he dare to do that agian, he will be punnished secriously.
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• United States
7 Nov 07
The school says that since the boys are in first and second grade that they cannot punish them more severly than they have. Apparently they assume that the parents have not taught the kids that young right from wrong, so they don't want to go too hard on the boys. The school isn't teaching right from wrong by not punishing them, though! I thought about waiting for the parents of the one boy that took a swing at my daughter today, but he walks home from school alone. I will definately be going to higher authorities tomorrow. Hopefully they will be able to get this situation resolved. My biggest fear is that my daughter is going to be miserable at school if the principal is angry with me for going above her head. It almost feels like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I want my little girl to love going to school and enjoy learning. Right now that is not happening, and I think this year is really the foundation of learning. I sure hope this gets corrected soon!
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@MGjhaud (23251)
• Philippines
10 Nov 07
If I were the mother of your daughter I’ll go talk straight of those kid’s parents and ask them to train their kids and explain the word respect. I won’t let anybody do that to my child. If the school will tolerate this act, both parents should talk.
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• United States
10 Nov 07
Trust me, if I could figure out who this kid's parents are I would be over talking to them. The school won't give me the information, though. Fortunately I found out that the school did contact the parents on Friday.
@talisman (1300)
• United States
7 Nov 07
That's awful! I can't believe that the school isn't doing more about this situation and isn't even keeping you fully informed of what's going on! If the superintendent doesn't do anything and if you can't find out where the boys live, I would see about getting your daughter transferred to either a different class or a different school, one that actually deals with problems.
• United States
7 Nov 07
Thank you, talisman. Unfortunately transfering my daughter into a different class won't help. Neither of the boys are in her classroom, but they all have lunch together. The boy who took a swing at her today is actually in the next grade. I have talked to my husband about changing schools, but he doesn't agree with me. He thinks we should put our daughter in a karate class so she can learn to defend herself. ARGH! I'm with him in a way, because I don't think running from problems is the best solution. On the other hand I don't want my little girl having to learn to fight to defend herself.
• United States
7 Nov 07
blueunicorn....i think you should contact CPS like Celanith says!! from what i understand while the child is in school, and school is in session, THEY are legally responsible for the welfare and safety of the child..and they are quite obviously negligent about caring for you daughter! make no bones about it, complain to everybody who has any authority. even if it means going to the PTA meetings and standing up and telling everybody there whats going on and that the school staff are doing nothing! tell the other parents that their child may be being treated like that by the same kids that the school is refusing to do anything about! if the school wont listen and heed what you have to say, you can bet that at least a couple other parents are going to be worried about their child, and will want to know what the school is going to do. and if some of those parents DO have kids that have been bullied, you've just gotten a force of upset, worried parents that will demand the school do something! good luck! those boys need to be dealt with...wouldnt surprise me if they are already hurting animals if they are treating a little girl like THAT! ooh i would be furious...you're supposed to be able to trust the teachers to look out for their students!
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• United States
7 Nov 07
Oh, the PTSO is a whole different story. They planned a restaurant night where the families go to a place and the restaurant donates a percentage of the bill to the school. The restaurant night location this year? Indigo Joe's Sports Pub and Restaurant. Any one else find that a little disturbing?
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
7 Nov 07
My son was in first grade, when he saw a girl in Kindergarten being picked on by 2 5th graders. He went to her rescue and got in a fist fight with one of them. He got suspended for 1 day for fighting as did the other boys. He told the principal that it was the teacher's faults, if they had been watching the kids instead of talking, they would have stopped it so he wouldn't have to. Though the school punished him, I took him out for dinner and ice cream. I was proud that he would go protect a little girl that he didn't know. And he was right in what he told the principal!
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
7 Nov 07
By the way, when my son was the target..I went to the parent's houses and told them the next time anyone touched him, I would go to the police...and I did!
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
7 Nov 07
I followed a kids school bus to find out where he lived. Or see if you can get the police to come to the school, talk to the principal an have the kid called down. This should scare the principal..especially when you tell him you are holding him responsible for what goes on in the school. Trust me, he does not want any bad PR
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• United States
7 Nov 07
Right on, Deb! I would have done the same thing. That is awesome of your son. You and he should both be proud. We have repeatedly told our daughter that she has the right to stick up for herself and she will not be in trouble at home. She is terrified of getting in trouble at school, though. Sadly, she is not seeing that the boys are not getting in trouble, so the school would have to use their own rules against them and not punish her if she did stand up for herself. If I could find out where this kid lives, trust me, I would be on the doorstep this afternoon talking with the parents. Unfortunately the school won't give me that information.
• Philippines
7 Nov 07
Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. I can't believe such kids repeatedly does that to your little girl. I think the school should do something. First thing is they should notify the parents of the kids so that they will know and make also an action for the misbehavior of their sons.
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• United States
7 Nov 07
I would have thought that the school would have notified the parents on the first incident. I personally find the first one where two boys ganged up on her to be the worst. I would certainly want to know if my kids were acting that way!
• Philippines
8 Nov 07
I don't think changing school will solve the problem. Probably these boys will do the same to other kid/s even if your daugther is not with their school anymore. Since the teacher of the boys cannot do something to stop them inspite of their effort, report this to the school administrator or to the school's guidance counselor. If they in turn can't do something, why not bring this up in the PTA meeting. At least other parents and the PARENTS of these boys will know. You know there are parents who can't accept or believe what their child/ren do in school. Others may behaved good and differently at home, but once they're out of the house they do the opposites. And that's a big problem, DENIAL from parents. And that shows too that the kids have behavioral problem. Maybe they're always being scolded at home and that they want to show at school that they're strong and always in control. If the school still will not take heed or take any action, report the school to the higher ups or the Education Department in your area. I also have a daugther in grade school. When she was younger (kinder if I can remember), one or two of her classmates used to teased and underestimate her (she's academically very good compared to these two). And my daugther is the kind who will cry easily and a shy one. BUT we taught her what to do so as not to be bullied by her classmate/s. We taught her to FIGHT BACK. We told her she's far more better than them. One time when she was being teased, she poked her fingers in the eyes of that classmate and from then on the girl stop. Now that she's in grade school, some of her classmates, including boys, used to do the same. But she's always Fighting Back. My husband taught her some basic self defense mechanisms. We also thought of enrolling her in a karate or taekwando class not only for protection in school but in other places as well. For now, she always bring an umbrella with pointed end with her. This can be used too for self defense. It's a shame that your school don't take any actions on this matter. Schools are supposed to be one of the safest places for children. It's the school management's responsibility to look into the welfare of these children once inside the school premises. Just one reminder, never, ever touch or do something with these boys just to get even for your daugther. You might be charged. Hope the problem can be solved soon. Take care!!!
• United States
8 Nov 07
One of my neighbor's brought up the point of by us running away to a different school, it doesn't help to change things for the other kids, too. I think that is a great point, redbubbles! We got some good news yesterday. This boy's parents will be notified of the situation and the school will be taking "the next step" in discipline today. I'll be posting a full update soon so I only have to write it once, but I am pleased with the results so far.
7 Nov 07
I feel for you and your daughter she must be having a hard time as with yourself i completely agree that you should be outraged by the schools lack of concern if it keeps happening and the school does nothing go the police route they can help find out who the boys are by contacting the scool as this cannot go on their is way too much bullying happening in and out of school these days its a discrace i hope you get something done soon
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• United States
7 Nov 07
Thank you. Fortunately my daughter seems to be taking these situations better than my husband and I. She is one tough cookie! Her spirits are good, and she doesn't seem to be worried about going to school yet. I hope she can just keep up her great attitude while we get this sorted out. I never thought my daughter would be a victim of bullying. It sure does give a whole new perspective on the school in general and past victims of bullies.
• Western Sahara
7 Nov 07
Blueunicorn, my son started kindergarten and they disappointed me from orientation.Situations started going downwards and I did't wait for that. I got online and found K12.Now I am happily tutoring him myself and I can forget school drama.I rather deal with him myself each day.I get to see his progress and am loving it.Forget who don't like it, but I am responsible for his learning wherever he is.My advice to you if you want to keep her there is to do your own background check.Sometimes you can feel so helpless in situations closest to your heart.
• United States
7 Nov 07
Helpless definately describes this situation well!
@angelface23 (2494)
• United States
7 Nov 07
wow that is terrible that your daughter has to go through that and the school doesn't seem to care. If you can't get any info on the boys or their parents I would just try to have your daughter find out what bus they ride and then one day follow the bus until the boys get off and see which house they go to. That way you'll know where they live and then you can talk to their parents. Until then I would just teach your daughter to fight back. Maybe defend herself is a better thing to say. Like as soon as the boys come up to her she should kick them in the nuts or something. That would teach them. lol
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@GardenGerty (157837)
• United States
8 Nov 07
I think I would go to an open meeting of the school board, the school's attorney (believe me, they have one), the superintendent, and to the PTO or PTA whichever you have. If the boys have been in in school suspension, their parents should have been notified. I would also talk to the school counselor, and the school psychologist. If I got no satisfaction, I would go to the local newspaper, and if the town is too small, or even if it isn't, I would go to a regional newspaper.Board of realtors, state school board. That is about all I can say. You may have to stir up a lot of bad press, or you may just have to tell them that you are going to stir up a lot of bad press. You will then be known as "that parent" but your little girl will be safe.
@phon4u (2215)
• Laos
8 Nov 07
what a pity daughter! you can move her to another good school nearby or convenient for you and comfortable for her. This action will happen again if she still stays there after you reported to the police.
• United States
7 Nov 07
That's terrible. That school should be telling the parent's of the boys what is going on and maybe those parent's could fix that situation. I would be mad too. I would definitely call the superintendent and try to get something done about this. I hope you get it straightened out soon.
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• Philippines
8 Nov 07
well if I were you since the school can't do anything about it...I suggest that you try to teach or enroll your daughter in martial arts class, by that way she can defend herself from the boys bullying her...Obviously those boys who harass your daughter have a psychological problem and their parents are the on to be blamed because they didn't know how to bring up a child well....
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• Western Sahara
7 Nov 07
K12 has made me confident about being able to teach my son.They give you instruction word for word with some flexibility.
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