Sticks and stones and words

United States
January 14, 2010 3:58pm CST
The old saying goes: sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me. Now I've had many things that caused physical pain, and still do, but...what of the emotional pain or damage to reputation and such that words can cause? Do you believe the old saying is true? Or do words hurt you more than physcial wounds? Karen
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@donsky14 (5947)
• Philippines
14 Jan 10
Words can definitely hurt me more...because it affects me emotionally, and its harder to heal, emotional wise than physically.
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• United States
14 Jan 10
Hello Donsky. I do agree with you, as I have found the same to be true. Whatever hurts our emotions runs much deeper and can last much longer than a physical wound. The "heart" is just so tender and vulnerable, even though strong...it takes a long time to mend its emotional wounds. Karen
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@donsky14 (5947)
• Philippines
14 Jan 10
Exactly.
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• United States
18 Jan 10
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
14 Jan 10
Emotional pain is something that takes a lot longer to heal. Wounds heal up. Broken bones mend after an amount of time. Strained and pulled muscles get better. Words, while not physically causing pain, can cut deep down to the surface. Especially if they are rather hurtful from a person who you value. They can hurt more than anything that you can imagine. No matter how much you try and shake it off, you find that its hard. Deep down, hurtful words cause a great deal of second guessing and wondering if they are true.
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• United States
14 Jan 10
Hello Matt So true. Bones and flesh tend to heal more quickly and thoroughly than the mind or the heart when hurt. Also true that much depends on who it is that hurts us with harsh or unkind words, or even lies. When it comes directly from a loved one we trusted, the wounds cuts deep indeed. Thank you for your insights. Karen
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
15 Jan 10
Hi Karen! At the outset, let me say - I started somwhat similar discussion many months ago, titled 'physical abuse vs verbal abuse' (however, I was not entitled to respond to my own post..........lol!). Here I can share my views, because it is your discussion. I feel that verbal abuse or use of some nasty words could be more damaging (for me) than physical abuse. I belive that physical damage would get repaired sooner or later but the bitter words always linger in our memory and we just cannot forget our 'insult'. It is, therefore, I try my best not to hurt someone, however sometimes it happens inadvetently and I feel bad about it. Have a great day! Deepak
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
16 Jan 10
Yes, Karen sting of unkind word could affect deep into our heart and brain and could be killing.
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• United States
16 Jan 10
You've started many great discussions, my friend, and sometimes I lose track lol. I am very much of the same mind that you are...the sting of unkind or untrue words hurts far longer than a flesh wound or a broken bone that will heal itself and no longer hurt. Thank you for sharing your insights :) Karen
@vandana7 (99282)
• India
4 Feb 10
Hi babyface, looks like you've never been through the physical abuse! Physical abuse has both verbal and physical aspects to it! The person who goes about physically abusing is constantly muttering some profanities. So you cant possibly dissociate physical abuse from verbal abuse. Both are equally damaging. Just that physical abuse is not likely to be as frequent as verbal abuse.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
15 Jan 10
No, I don't think the saying is true. I think words can hurt u very much or i have had them hurt me. I'm sure i have done the same to people but never intentionally. I have a quick temper & a quick mouth & that can be a very bad thing.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
15 Jan 10
Good morning Karen, I appreciate your vote of confidence in me but it's true i have a very ugly quick temper, always have & always will i guess. All u would have to do would be to ask anyone who really knows me, lol.
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• United States
16 Jan 10
Okay, I'll cry uncle on that one, but I loves ya anyway!
• United States
15 Jan 10
Hello Miss Jo I completely agree! That saying is something used over the years to try to convince children that other children can't hurt them by calling them names or degrading them, but...they can and do! Some of us remember the sting of such things or bear the scars throughout a lifetime. I still cannot picture you with a bad temper, though!! Karen
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
14 Jan 10
I don't know about more pain, but I certainly think they hurt as much and we often remember them longer. Inflicting pain on another for what ever reason is just not good.
• United States
14 Jan 10
This is true, Pat. I've had children, surgeries, etc., and the pain was forgotten soon enough. Emotional wounds inflicted by harsh words, though, do tend to linger in memory. karen
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
17 Jan 10
I guess that all depends upon how strong a person you are and just how severe the words are and who delivers them. Some people are very thin skinned and any little thing hurts their feelings. Ironically many of these same people are not so careful in choosing their own words.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
19 Jan 10
Some people can hear abusive comments and not be as affected by them as others because they are strong within themselves. Other people can not take even the slightest hint of critcism no matter how constructive it is. With the exception of children I still say it all comes down to who you are and what you tolerate from other people. Some people start off not taking crap and fighting back from childhood and others just retreat into their own little world and never quite grow up. The former are the survivors and the latter are the perpetual victims. Unfortunately some of those victims ultimately become "offenders."
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• United States
18 Jan 10
Hi Canellita Hm, I was not talking about little things, but then I don't think everyone has truly been on the end of a combined physical/verbal abuse situation to know just how very powerfully deep ugly things said can go. I think those people are indeed fortunate. They do tend to judge harshly, though, or in a rather blase manner. As for me, I use words kindly, but that has never guaranteed others will reciprocate. I have been on the extremes of both and do know which hurts me the worst, as do many. This is why it is best to rid ourselves of any sort of toxic connections as quickly as possible. Karen
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
16 Jan 10
No I do not believe in this saying, as I know words can hurt more then physical Pain, so who ever came up with this saying, well it is not true the physical Pain goes away, the verbal Pain doesn't
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• United States
18 Jan 10
Hello Gabs From my own experience, like you, I know this saying is not true at all. Words, especially what they refer to today as verbal abuse does hurt, and it is sometimes a hurt that changes us forever. Thank you for responding. Karen
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
15 Jan 10
I think that old saying was just meant to toughen up little kids whose feelings would get hurt on the playground. It never worked then and still doesn't. The fact is that words are weapons and they do hurt. Sometimes they hurt longer and deeper than a physical wound depending on who said them and how they affected the person. there have been times when I think I'd rather have been slapped than to hear some of the mean words of someone that I care deeply about.
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• United States
16 Jan 10
Hi Sid I think you're right, that's most likely why it originated, but ugh! I still think it's baloney. Like you, although a slap stings, there are times I'd have rather that than some of the cruel things people have said. Karen
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 10
Words can hurt and they can't ever be taken back either. Especially if they come from somebody you loved and/or trusted. Or if somebody you care about believes them.
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• United States
16 Jan 10
You are right Dawn. Even if someone says something nasty and later says, sorry...I didn't mean that...well at the time they did too mean it! And once spoken and heard, words cannot be unsaid. Karen
@tigeraunt (6326)
• Philippines
15 Jan 10
dear karen, in a family where cussing and shouting is a no no, i find words more hurting than physical pain. words could be sharp, bold, or mild. but either way, the message it conveys can crumple one's heart.. i am sorry to say, i dont believe in the saying. thank you for this discussion. ann
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• United States
16 Jan 10
Hello Ann I agree that most especially when we're not used to it, hurtful words hit us even harder, but I think no one ever gets used to or immune to the pain of them. Such a sad thing, for kind words and such do us a lot of good, both to say them and to hear them. :) Karen
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Jan 10
I absolutely hate this saying because I think it is false in more ways than one could ever know. Physical pains eventually go away but the pain of a person that has been verbally or emotionally abused is pain that will be with them for the rest of their lives. This isn't fair to a person. Perhaps it is even this statement that makes people think that the can abuse a person with words because they thing that it won't really hurt another person. I've been called names and made fun of during my life and I still carry some of that pain with me today.
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• United States
18 Jan 10
Hi Dorann. I completely agree with you. If one has been there, at the worse end of another's scathing words, as a child or adult, than they know the carelessness of the saying, even if it wasn't meant to be careless. And true, some things said can cause off and on pain for a lifetime. Hugs, Karen
@vandana7 (99282)
• India
4 Feb 10
Hi Karen, I think physical abuse is a whole set while verbal abuse is a part of it. I think you've not added the third kind. Financial abuse. I know of people who adjust to physical and verbal abuse because they are somewhat in a financial trap. Its constant threat, if you tell others I am doing this, you will be left penniless! In all probability, those pennies and dollars are taken away during some emotional moments, or again through physical and verbal abuse. :) Too many kind of abuses, he he.
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• United States
4 Feb 10
I so much agree, Dana. No one is ever physically abused without it being accompanied by verbal abuse. The combination of the two is life-altering. We survive, but we are "different" than we would have been had we not been exposed to that kind of thing. People are sometimes trapped in situations others who've not been there just cannot grasp. Thank you for such an insightful response. And yes, there are definitely far too many kinds of abuse...and they all suck! xoxo Karen
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@esjosh (912)
• India
15 Jan 10
I think the saying is true in my case. I never care about any physical injury to me. You can come and hit me as much as you can. With God grace I have good physics. But some emotional words only can break me. If you say I am emotional fool then yes I confess.
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• United States
16 Jan 10
Hi Esjosh I have to admit, I am also very emotional, and bad things said cut me deeply, more deeply than a slap, for instance, though neither is nice. Thank you for sharing your opinion! Karen
• United States
17 Jan 10
From my experiences, words can hurt much more than physical pain. Where did that phrases come from? lol Maybe the athor of it ment it in a different context than we know it today. I've been hurt badly both physically and emotionally. Psychological pain, it's hard to explain... it's harder to forget. I think that once the bruises are gone and the cuts heal up that pain is all over. But, when someones words hurt you, people have a tendency to think about it a lot (bad idea), so not only does the pain not fade - it gets even worse. Maybe that's just me. Still, I've heard tons of people that have been abused physically and emotionally say that emotional pain is more hurtful.
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• United States
18 Jan 10
Hi Pineapple...delicious name you have there :)) Yes, I'm sure the author meant in a more relaxed way, but words do indeed hurt, as is pointed out many times in the Bible or through the experiences of those who've been on the extreme end of bullying or verbal attacks. Yes, I am one of those people, and the emotional pain IS worse...but we do survive and get through it, but not without effort and a lot of "healing" time. Thank you for responding. Karen
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
14 Jan 10
Hi Karen, I hate this saying with a vengeance, it certainly is NOT true for me, words and mental anguish are far more damaging than physical pain, believe me I have been there, I have been in mentally abusive relationships, I have been bullied for most of my life and its words that destroy people, and they have nearly destroyed me, the power of words. I was always taught this saying from childhood and I rebelled against it because it simply wasn't true, words are damaging, they tear lives apart, people apart, do you know if I had a choice between being mentally abused and physically abused I would take the physical, not that I condone it or would want it, but out of the two mental abuse you cannot prove, physcial abuse a bruise or a cut can heal, words said brutally and used as weopens take years sometimes never to heal, believe me I have been there and words said to me as a youngster still even now 30 years on still have a profound affect on me. That is part of the reason why I am so obsessive about my weight and have OCD, because I was torn to pieces by sick jibes, bullying and nasty words about being fat as a child. I wish my ex had beaten me up because they knew I was much stronger physically and weak mentally they knew my achilles heal. So this is why when I hear that saying sticks and stones I go completely cold.
• United States
15 Jan 10
I think what you'll find, dear Wolfie, that the opposite of the saying is true for almost all of us. Words, literally, have the power to kill, to scare, to sicken, to scar for a lifetime, to ruin self-esteem, relationships, and trust. So yes, they DO hurt, and they hurt far more deeply and for far longer than broken bones, cuts, and any fleshly wound. I've been abused both ways you've mentioned, so I know of what I speak. So I hear and feel exactly what you mean, at least to the extent I can without actually BEING you. My heart goes out! Karen
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@vijayanths (7877)
• India
15 Jan 10
Both would certainly hurt any one. It depends on the intensity. it depends on people as well. It is better not to get hurt by words if there is nothing wrong on your part.Or else you should see it as an opportunity to correct your mistakes, it is easy to say this difficult to practice though...
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• United States
15 Jan 10
Yes, Vijay, both do hurt and intensity definitely plays a role. I do think the pain of extremely hurtful words lingers with one much longer, though. Even the truth can be told without degrading someone's entire character and sense of self-worth. Karen
@margaux08 (1094)
• Philippines
14 Jan 10
Hi there, There are old sayings that through the passage of time, proved to only be hoax. One is the saying you quoted above, probably depending on how one may apply it. But how I see it, and through personal experience also, I believe words have a deep impact to each one of us. It cuts deep through our hearts and minds. Wounds may not be seen, but there is a great phychological and emotional effects afterwards. Lies, for instance is a discreet deception. It can be said through flowery words but the aftermath is as strong as a knife's edge that can kill a person by wrecking one's reputation like an indelible ink carelessly poured out on a white silk linen. At least that's how I see it. Happy day!
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
15 Jan 10
Hey Karen! I don't think that most people realized or understand how much words can hurt other people! I am having this problem right now with a friend of mine! She only wants to be able to say what she wants to me, but if I dare say something she doesn't like then oh my God she has a fit! I have told her over and over again that I am sick of her mouth and will not continute to put up with her crap and she just doesn't get it! We have been friends since we were 10 years old, on and off! This is a very old friendship and about 2 years ago I ended it! And I am about to do it again because she is reverting back to her nasty self! I haven't got the time or energy to deal with her sickness (she is bipolar)! Sometimes you just have to say what you mean and mean what you say! Words can hurt! And I will never let anyone hurt me with words!
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• United States
15 Jan 10
Hi Opal You're right, especially dull in realization is the person slinging about the hurtful words, and if it goes on repeatedly, that is even worse. No conscience, no idea of the harm being done, and how sad that is! For those of us who've been terribly hurt by words, I think it tends to make us more careful with how we choose to use our own words...a good thing. I commend you for rising above being hurt by words! I am still working on it :) And for what it's worth, that is NO friend at all, or at best, a toxic friend! I say, walk far far away from her and don't look back. Karen
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• United States
15 Jan 10
I don't know who the heck came up with that saying because in my opinion it is a bunch of crock. Although I also say this same saying to my own children so... I think that while physical wounds can hurt emotional wounds cut deeper and hurt a lot worse. Physical wounds while hurtful heal quickly and can at times be forgotten while emotional wounds take longer and at times may never be forgotten. I always tell myself and my kids to think before we think because once something has been said it can not be unsaid so be careful we do not say something that can be hurtful or regretted....
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• United States
15 Jan 10
Hi Froggies I don't know either, but like you, I also think its way off the mark! Words DO hurt and sometimes the hurt effects us for a lifetime. It sounds okay perhaps to soothe a child's hurt feelings using this little saying when someone has said something mean to them at school, but it is misleading! It is good for each of us to be mindful of what we say to others, whether children or adults. Thank you for your opinion. Karen
• United States
15 Jan 10
i would rather be slapped than someone to use words like a knife. the sting from the slap goes away quickly but the sting from the words could last a lifetime. the type of person that uses words to hurt others is an insecure person. when they belittle it makes them feel in control i think.
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• United States
15 Jan 10
Hi there I have been through both, as a child and as an adult, and yes, the sting of slap tends to fade more quickly than the pain of words than try to demean or even dehumanize us. I agree, most foul speech comes from those who themselves have little pride or self-esteem. Karen