China's shameful massacre of unborn girls means there will soon be 30m more men

@ronaldinu (12422)
Malta
April 11, 2010 5:19am CST
This is what is happening in China! Do you think that this is ethical aborting girls because everyone wants boys? [i]In the cruel old China, baby girls were often left to die in the gutters. In the cruel modern China, they are aborted by the tens of millions, using all the latest technology. There is an ugly new word for this mass slaughter: gendercide. Thanks to a state policy which has limited many families to one child since 1979, combined with an ancient and ruthless prejudice in favour of sons, the world's new superpower is beginning the century of its supremacy with an alarming surplus of males. By the year 2020, there will be 30 million more men than women of marriageable age in this giant empire, so large and so different (its current population is 1,336,410,000) that it often feels more like a separate planet than just another country. Nothing like this has ever happened to any civilisation before.[/i] Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1265068/China-The-worlds-new-superpower-beginning-century-supremacy-alarming-surplus-males.html#ixzz0kmknyfWO Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1265068/China-The-worlds-new-superpower-beginning-century-supremacy-alarming-surplus-males.html#ixzz0kmkgvUMv
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• United States
11 Apr 10
I always thought If I were to have children I would have 4 boys no girls!That way At least one would follow in his father's footsteps.I never wanted girls. So I guess I would fit in in China. The problem in china is there are too many people period. It is sad that they Have to have only one child.Is there were half as many people they would still be able to keep their girls .
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Apr 10
Even my grandma preferred boys rather than girls! For me it does no make any difference. Both of them are God's creation and I would love them both .... because they would be my own flesh and blood
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Never say never :)
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• United States
11 Apr 10
I will never have children. I don't have the desire nor the patience to have kids.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
11 Apr 10
I am sure that is to build a better Amry. I guess that aborting the fetuses is a little more humane then leaving them in the gutter. Still sick and wrong.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
11 Apr 10
wow Ron, this whole agreeing thing is getting out of hand....
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
or our hand is stretching too long... From my experience here, I can agree on XYZ topic and disagree on ABC topic and it can be vice versa with other users.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Apr 10
Do agree with you on this one!
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@youless (112204)
• Guangzhou, China
13 Apr 10
I come from China. This is not all the truth. I am only one child in my family and I am a female. I have good education and I am adored by my parents a lot. I think the situation has changed as time goes by. Today women have a better position in China. We can have education and our own career. But some families may not be the same, they still want boys than girls. After all, not everybody has the same value. To avoid aborting girls, when the pregnant women have the Ultra scanning in the hospital, the doctors won't tell them whether the baby is a boy or girl. This is a policy to prevent from the discrimination of baby girls. And today most families don't care whether the child is a boy or a girl. As long as the baby is healthy, this is good enough. Boys and girls are the same. I love China
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
HI youless. I am glad that you have participated in my discussion. Your feedback is much more appreciated since you have first hand information at what is going on in your country. Is the one child per family policy still implemented in China?
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@youless (112204)
• Guangzhou, China
18 Apr 10
The one child policy is still the policy in China. I personally don't like it. As I think it is better for a family to have two children. I don't want more, two children will be good enough. Sometimes one child is really worried for parents. And when the child grows up, he/she will have a heavy pressure. But some people can have one more children. The couples who are both only one child for their families. The couples who are from the village. And there are also some other rules. But most couples can have one child only.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
11 Apr 10
I have heard of this and also a few years ago I saw a story on how there is such a shortage of women that men could not always find someone to marry. Thus, the family line would die. In their zeal to continue their family lines they are destroying them. A just punishment, I think. I abhor abortion, it is murder in my mind. The Chinese are insane.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Apr 10
I do abhor abortion too. It s the killing of an unborn child no matter how hard one tries to disguise it.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
12 Apr 10
Gerty, I have also heard that. As usual, the women and children are who suffers when evil men are in charge.
@missybear (11391)
• United States
11 Apr 10
I think it's horrible for people to abort a child due to the gender. It's not a game to try to have a boy or girl, you playing with someones live
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
I do agree that it's horrible. I am against this horrible practise. Both genders should be respected.
@Makro74 (591)
11 Apr 10
This also happens in rural India, although now it is confined to many rural villages, women at still frowned upon in many customs and traditions. Lower caste families who have a girl born to them quite often bury their girls alive. Reason, because they cannot afford the dowry (downpayment) of fixing her marriage. Second reason is that the quality of life of the poor and the low caste makes life unbearable for the girl.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Hi Makro74 this is utterly barbaric. I hope that people be more educated and respect both genders.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
26 Apr 10
this is saddening. China's population is really huge... their market is huge as well... but i guess most people who aren't in the city are not educated enough and is still very much tied to the old beliefs that only sons are the saviour of a family - loads of crap for that idea. believe me... men are as no good as most women who readily takes care of their families... some men do too, but mostly are women who care much more about a family's welfare. i should say that They stop this discrimination.. its getting inhumane by the minute...
• China
28 Apr 10
i am chinese.most of us are oppose the one-child policy.but at the same time we have no capacity to raise up two child.that's why that painful thing hapened even today.what the news said is almost ture.
@jwfarrimond (4473)
17 Apr 10
It's supposed to reduce the population growth, but call me paranoid if you like, but I can't help thinking that the chinese government planned this all along. After all, what's the best use for 30 million surplus men - the army of course. This surplus gives them the raw materiel for a massive expansion of the Chinese army in a few years time.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
I hope that this will not be the case. I hope that the Chinese arm would not be so influential otherwise we would be heading for another world war.
17 Apr 10
I hope so as well because that would be a war that civilisation as we know it would not survive.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
12 Apr 10
That is terrible. Abortion is wrong in any case, and for one country to kill most of the girls by this mind is evil. So what will be the result besides so many men in one country who will become violent and fight each other for the few remaining females? I fear it is not good. All those unmarried men possibly joining the military, having no civilized influence and nothing to do with their time. I hope that we in the western world are not pressured to limit our male population, but you know what will happen. Some left wing idiot will suggest that we have too many men being born and compare our situation to that in China. Or they will say that China had the right idea in getting rid of all those girl babies. That is what I am afraid what will happen. Because of their own selfishness and short-sighted policy, the rest of the world will suffer.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
I hope that what happened in China won't happen in anywhere else.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
24 Apr 10
I hate abortions and especially when it is gender selective. I heard that here in North America, that some women hated their boyfriends so much after they broke up or if they abused them, that if the baby was a boy, they had it aborted. So no matter what, one should not get rid of the baby because he or she is not the little girl or boy that one wanted. It seems so selfish, but more selfish and evil if the government is telling the women to only have one child and if the custom was that boys were better, then the natural result is as is in China that if the first child is a girl, they will get rid of her. That is one reason why it is wrong for a government tells women to limit the children they have and also one reason why I am suspicious of China's policy. They probably know that boys are more respected then girls, and if they could have a larger army -
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
11 Apr 10
Because women were 51% of most societies and men were 49%, men were valued more than women. When men are 55% (or more) of a society and women 45% (or less), we shall see if women continue to be undervalued. That many men will have to compete for women and the loosers will have to go to other countries to get women or become gay or something. In Europe, extra women could become nuns and extra men could become priests. Maybe they will have to have the extra become monks or eunichs. It's not just the Chinese, many cultures do this allowing girls to die at birth. This is one of the few times it has been counted. Some are worse. Some women get burned alive in India. With less women, maybe they feel the population will get smaller or stabilize. But I think many changes will happen. Either women will get more valued and more power, therefore, maybe genderside will stop or women will be a minority and have even less power.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Hi writers edge. I certainly don't agree with you on this one. In Europe, extra women could become nuns and extra men could become priests. I think you are being demeaning in your judgement. I know several nuns/priests who had boyfriend/girlfriends before making a celibacy vow. Certainly they were not extra and most of them would have made wonderful parents but they chose Jesus and to serve him and the Church before personal interests. It is sad to hear about such stories that jerusalem folk has mentioned.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
11 Apr 10
SO I've heard. The more people a country has, it seems the less value for life.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Apr 10
ronaldinu thats so sad aborting girls like that, murder that is what it is. why , they will have so many males and so few females left where are the families to come from then. China is surely a different planet, with some odd ideas on women. they could be shooting themselves in the foot as without women to marry and make those precious sons, they are going around in circles. whew.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
I hope that qinqinzhuzhu is right and this is not as common practise as the newspaper have led me to believe.
• China
12 Apr 10
No no no.the things will never happen,u don't have 2 worry about.and u may don't know one of the negative thinkings of the chinese people ,they think a boy child can stay with them when they r getting old,so they always hope to have a boy baby,got it?and if their daughter-in -law don't born a boy baby for them, they will not be happy,and treat their daughter-in-law not well. u may think it is very funny ,but it really do exist,and this thinking exists particularly in the old ones.but now htese people is getting lesser and lesser.
@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
16 Apr 10
Omg...as in there's really a truth behind this gruesome killing of baby girls. How could this happen until today. So if a family is only limited to one child that is incredibly wrong...and what if all the children where males or females...what it's gonna be. Maybe they should have at least two or three children in a family that is much better. It will balance the population. I think China is trying to control their population but somehow it might end catastrophic. There must be a way to control everything not by doing gendercide which is a big mistake. I am hoping for the best of this country.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Abortion is the not solution. Educating couples might be. But I do find it unjust to limit a family to one child only. I think it is unethical.
• Philippines
11 Apr 10
This is awful and wrong. I don't know how their minds run. Abortion is still killing and they're killing millions of babies. It makes me sick.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Apr 10
I do condemn abortion too. For me its the same as murder.
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• Netherlands
11 Apr 10
That's just messed up. Sounds to me like Ancient Sparta is back in action and by saying this I mean in negative light. China is still a dictatorship and I do not think highly of such barbaric acts. Surely they do have some domestic problems but why killing babies? You should be responsible and be prepared to raise the child, not throw it away, what's wrong with you? Clearly, I am shocked by what I've just read...
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
11 Apr 10
it makes me wonder why girls are such an unwanted commodity in china. my sister in law has adopted two little girls from china and they are wonderful! one is 7 and the other is 4. it is very sad that they continue to do this.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Hopefully feminine organisations continue to work hard to eliminate such horrible acts in China. I am glad that your sister in law adopted two girls from China ...
@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
14 Apr 10
YEah, this has been happening in china for many decades.. Because of the over population there, its government is trying to cut down so as to prevent over-crowding.. haha =D As such, they have the one child policy, being implemented.. And boys are often in favour, as they are supposed to carry on the family line, and which father, would wanna see their family die off, with them being the last?? hehe
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
I am not much in favour of government interference in family affairs. I find the one child limit per family as rather unethical.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
12 Apr 10
I read the article too. I am surprised that no Chinese people have responded so far. Censorship and fear of the state is a wonderful thing!
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
I have received about three answers from Chinese people denying this report. According to their feedback, this mentality is no longer so prevalent as the article tries to make us believe.
@wxx8899 (111)
• China
13 Apr 10
i think this is a new 20 or 30years ago,i am a chinese girl and only one child in my family.i know 20or 30 years ago it exist in china,but not now 2010.it is illegal for hospital to tell baby's gender before birth.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Hi wxx8899 your feedback is greatly appreciated since you are from China. Can you give us more detail about this news report? I am glad that hospitals do not disclose the gender prior to birth.
• China
12 Apr 10
Facts speak louder than words. I can't be less ashamed because that is a far cry from the truth. Don't let your eyes be blindfolded by these misleading stories.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Can you explain yourself? Are you denying such report? Did I understood you well?
@ssxiona (91)
12 Apr 10
I am not agree with you at all. Have you ever been to china and living there? If not, please don't easily trust any news for that. It is true that in the past family prefered boys than girls. they wanted more manpower to work for the family. But now, things are completly different. All the families can have only one child and with the devoloping of living, they think girls and boys are the same.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
17 Apr 10
Hi ssxiona, thanks for your feedback. No I have never visited China though I do wish that I will be able to visit this country someday. So are you saying that nowadays Chinese people have different mentality from that reported on this newspaper?