How do you get real constructive criticism on your work?

@Awinds (2468)
United States
July 12, 2011 3:27am CST
When I show my writing to others for a critique the most common response I get is "this sounds good." Well, I am glad my reader thinks that but what about it makes it good? With this generic response, I am left wondering exactly what are the strong points of the piece and what needs work. As a writer, in depth criticism is vital for improvement, but it so hard to find. So, how do you get this vital criticism on your work?
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9 responses
12 Jul 11
To get "professional" criticism, you need to ask professionals. Most people aren't actually able to say more than "it's good" because they don't know why it's good or bad. Off the top of my head, there are two options. If you're talking about fiction writing, you can join a community. I've already recommended Scribophile before: they run a karma system where people HAVE to critique before they can post their own work. The people there (although I haven't dropped in for quite a while) are really nice, friendly and amazingly helpful for spotting what's good and bad. There's also Authonomy, but I don't know much about it (except that it's run by a publishing house who use it to spot new talent). The other option is to ask an editor, an agent or someone who reviews books for a living. They'll be able to see beyond good and bad and provide more feedback. If you're talking about articles, you'll probably have to go that route, since there aren't really any writing communities specifically for article writers. You could try checking out writer forums and see if you can get feedback on those (Writers Market or the communities in Helium, AC, HubPages, etc. would probably work - though you'll get a lot of amateur responses, of course). Hope it helps.
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@soulist (2985)
• United States
25 Jul 11
I joined a workshop in my neoghborhood. I get the critique I want and learn more. I always have someone to go to when I write something new. In college I went to my professors who were brutal on me, but it helped.
13 Jul 11
It takes me four days to remember to buy washing powder... but when it comes to interesting stuff my brain's happy to store it! Scribophile was one of the friendliest, most helpful places I've ever had the pleasure of joining a couple of years ago. I hope it has't changed!
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
13 Jul 11
The Scribophile suggestion is very helpful! I have been looking for a community of this kind for awhile, but all I have found so far are sites dedicated to fan fiction. I only write original fiction. So thanks! The myLot team should give you the designation of encyclopedia - you have quite a lot of useful information spread through the entire site.
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@dodo19 (47133)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
19 Jul 11
I can certainly understand how you feel. Sometimes, it's just easier to say 'it's good' than anything else. But try giving it to family and friends, and mention to be honest, that you want them to be honest, and to feel free to tell you what they didn't like. Maybe that could help you.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
19 Jul 11
I've tried that for a long time now. :) It seems those close to us don't want to hurt our feelings...
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
This has been my problem for quite some time since I do produce some work and what I get back in return is a generic response of "it's good' and 'good job'. as a writer, I cannot seem to be content with just those words repeating every time I submit a work. I don;t want to post my work elsewhere becuase it will blacklist me to my clients, so I usually go t my favorite (and much abused) professor and have him critique it. Sometimes, I get frustrated at Him becuase he gives me the same answers (that's only when he's busy checking other student's paper) but his critique and advice is also helpful. Spike's advice is very helpful though I don't have time to post my work in the said communities. I agree that we need feedback(specifically constructive criticism) to improve our work and see how much we develop (or slack off). Feedback is like our grading system. Personally, it nags my mind and I question myself whether I really improve or not. Though it is tempting to nag others for their opinions, some really don't give quality feedback in the first place. Sometimes, you just need to boost your confidence in order to move on and write some more.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
19 Jul 11
Writing without quality feedback is like taking classes in school with no grades. There is no way to measure your progress, and a host of other nightmares. For writers, as you said so eloquently, constructive criticism is the life blood.
@Jelminrie (358)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
I always get one, because i am not so good at grammar, i often times get insults from superiors, yeah insulted they don't tell it to me nicely. But I do take it positively, i am trying not to cry,convincing myself "yeah yell at me now i smile at you later, i'll show i can do good, just wait for my time"... because i know what i am only capable to give when it comes to formal writing, maybe they tell you your work is good it is really good, maybe they are already satisfied with the work o maybe they are not very knowledgeable in the topic so they can't tell you what's missing so they feel its enough and good, if they are well versed with the topic they might find it complete, maybe you should show your work unto people who can related to what have written, or someone superior. :)
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
13 Jul 11
Critiques from someone with superior skill is one of the best kinds - you have the potential to really hear what you need to hear. :)
@angie20 (191)
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
Friends and loved ones are quite biased when they give their constructive criticism towards the work of they beloved. It is better to seek the genuine ones from the pro. I mean, look for those seniors who are really expert in the field you are trying to excel. I assure you they give you the best points in writing. They will be glad to show you your strengths and weakness and will be candid enough to tell it directly. Just bear in mind that getting some criticism from the experts might be surprising. Some pro give their points as liberally and harshly as they can; a technique to make you better. Nonetheless, continue writing and showing it to trusted people for criticism, it will still helps.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
13 Jul 11
It does seem that finding real, helpful criticism is much harder than it seems. Thanks you for your suggestions - I would prefer criticism that was just the raw bone without the feel good meat.
• Philippines
13 Jul 11
hi there awinds. im also writing some blog entries and im posting them either here or most of the time in Facebook. for me to know if its a good one or not is if gets a lot of comments or likes - but im not very impressed with 'likes' because its a common thing in facebook, right? im more into the comments (real comments) about the topic i posted. if they give a "nice work" it sounds insufficient to me, it feels like they are just patronizing me as a friend. i kinda like it when they comment on the issue/topic i wrote about, it means they are curious about it, it means they understood what i wrote.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
13 Jul 11
Real comments are indeed diamonds to writers. You are right about the likes on facebook. Liking something on facebook is like when someone says "nice" in the real world. It's just a comment or action to fill the moment or make a friend feel good. It's just a little above neutral at best. Good luck with your blogging! :)
@MATT69AC (333)
• United States
12 Jul 11
Try showing your work to you family or friends, and ask them what do the think about the writing. And you could also make a mylot task telling people to read the writing and to have people make like a three sentence response on why they liked it or didnt like it. And also have them tell you how you can make it better or more interesting. Hopefully I helped you have a good day.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
12 Jul 11
Well, that is the problem. I believe my family and friends just don't want to hurt my feelings even though I have made it very clear that I can handle criticism. I am still working up the guts to do it here on myLot. Have a good evening! :)
@miessy24 (235)
• Philippines
12 Jul 11
Sometimes, it's much easier to say short criticism like "It sounds good" or " Great work" or " Not bad", etc...but a follow-up question from these responses will generate more specific answers to gain the constructive criticism. Why not verbalize your wondering thoughts to the person whom you asked opinion with?You mentioned, "What are the strong points of the piece and what needs work?",etc... :)
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
12 Jul 11
That is an idea. They can not read my thoughts - I need to verbalize them. Thanks! :)
@DeepOne (19)
• United States
18 Apr 12
If you try posting your work on Writing.com, you may get the "vital criticism" and kudos on your work, that every writer desires. There are many reviewers there, and the site has been around for quite a while. Good luck!