People without Facebook accounts - are they creepy or even dangerous?

@Awinds (2468)
United States
September 6, 2011 8:40pm CST
So I found this article about a Colton Tooley who was a school shooter at the University of Texas last year (www.ketknbc.com/news/acquaintances-at-a-loss-over-motive-of-ut-gunman). However there was one quote in the article that I found interesting: "High-achieving students can become dangerous if they are isolated and without balance...the fact that Tooley apparently didn't have a Facebook account reflects a certain degree of isolation." Said a criminology professor. So what do you think? Is not having a Facebook account a sign of a person with problems or who is even potentially psychotic? Is not having a facebook account just a lifestyle choice or is an indicator of something dangerous? (Let me just say I don't have a Facebook account and I don't feel like killing anyone...)
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
7 Sep 11
It depends on whether they have some other form of communications. Now if they are isolated from other people and do not have an online account such as Facebook they might be a bit dangerous. It is not that they are lone, but are they alone by choke? For instance a writer wants to be alone to do his work as well s any creative person because they have to think, but when no one loves you, or if you are thinking of doing harm and need someone who is not there to tell you to stop thinking that way. then you are a danger.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
8 Sep 11
That professor is wrong. For instance, some do not have that much time to go on Facebook and some like me use it just for important events or to find out what is going on. The same with Twitter although I had a friend email and tell me not to contact me through Twitter as she had a bad experience. The trouble she gave me the opinion that Twitter was not allowed in our church circle which I found was a wrong idea. WE do have business owners in our church, but it is like when I write on my lot and the first one answers says negative things or is not using what I am wondering around. I really have to go back to Twitter. But it is under my real name and that means switching over to it. Here in Winnipeg, there are a lot of mjurderers around, although they are the hit the person over the head with a baseball bat or stab them with a knife after a drunken party type.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
I do agree that those who are isolated for no reason are signs that something dangerous might be brewing under the surface. For example, where I love there was a person who isolated themselves in a cabin miles away from any human contact. He turned out to be a talented bomb maker. I may not have a Facebook account but I still text and call people. And there is myLot of course. I don't consider myself to be isolated. If I had no contact what so ever I would then be someone who might not be doing to good in the head. Facebook is just one way to social - I don't think it should be given as much weight as this criminology professor seems to give it.
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@webcodez (172)
• Netherlands
7 Sep 11
That's a very interesting question you made there, but I do not think not having a facebook account seriously makes someone dangerous. I used to not have one in the past and I still do not quite use it a lot. In fact there are many more ways to be in contact with the rest of the world. I think real contact with people is more important than facebook when it comes to socializing, not being isolated.
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@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
That is a great point. In our world today there are hundreds of ways to communicate. Cellphones, Myspace, email, video calling etc. It's just about finding your preferred method. Facebook is only one method. I am not sure what is about Facebook as a method that makes it as important as this criminology professors seems to believe. I agree that the absence of socializing is a far more important fact than the absence of a certain socializing method. One can be social with Facebook.
@celticeagle (160064)
• Boise, Idaho
7 Sep 11
It could have potential for problems. But, some people just don't have alot of family and don't have time for sites like Facebook. On the other hand if you look at a list of characteristics of serial killers and psychosis it all starts with isolation. But it also has some trauma, head injury and other things in the mix as well. Was his mother over bearing, was he into fire and abandoned by the father, etc. If there has been a cycle of violence in his life then there is a probability of him using violence whenever he is challenged. It depended on alot of variables.
@celticeagle (160064)
• Boise, Idaho
8 Sep 11
Well, I seriously doubt that not having a FB account is a soul indicator but it could contribute to other such variables like I mentioned. It is hard to say.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Still though I would say no Facebook was a sign, or just an indicator. I don't know if having no Facebook account can be used as an indicator or poor mental health in all cases. This boy other, far deeper reaching problems. You list some excellent ones yourself that could cause someone to go down the wrong path in the teen years. There sure are a lot of variables here and in similar cases.
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@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
That makes a lot of sense. If one is isolated they will not be using Facebook or any other communication method. I certainly think that no Facebook can be a sign - just not a chief indicator. :)
@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
7 Sep 11
ROTFLMAO! That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard! So this professor claims that not having a Facebook account reflects a certain degree of isolation?! Hahahahahahaha! Well, color me unbalanced and dangerous because I don't have a Facebook account either. I like my anonymity on the internet. I don't want to broadcast my personal life to the worldwide web.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
7 Sep 11
Well if nothing else the man's research papers must be really interesting if Facebook is so prominent in his theories! But we all know that you and I are hiding weapons under our mattresses...we just don't want to reveal our secret locations on Facebook. It would kind of ruin our vile intentions! ;)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Ah yes, we truly are dangerous pariahs of society since we choose not to post the location of our weapons cache and evil intentions on everybody's Facebook wall. hehhehhehheh Be afraid, be very afraid of us non-Facebookers because we are coming TO GET YOU!
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Amen! The secret face of the secret people is taking over the world...offline! :P
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
7 Sep 11
So, what about those people with facebook account, and they try to impersonate another person in those social network, what do you think of them. Are they some sort of psychotic or not? What about those people who creep around facebook and other social network channels, and ultimately, they serve as predator on those girls, who are they? Do you think they are not dangerous?
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
7 Sep 11
What a great point! I actually have a friend who deleted her facebook account because of insistent stalkers. If Facebook is going to be a sign now of one's mental state, having one could indicate one who is not mentally healthy. Obviously stalkers are dangerous. Facebook just isn't a good indicator of mental health - to many variables.
• Philippines
7 Sep 11
I Think what you presented to us is very isolated issue. The speaker is making a very generalized claim that those people with Facebook accounts don't have an alternative means to socialize with others. True, making a Facebook account is a choice but the choice is also the same and applicable to a person who doesn't want to have one. I for one, was forced to make an account due to my friend's insistence. But having a Facebook account doesn't make a uber socializing and networking person. I think that some people really credit Fcaebook too much when it comes to networking and connecting with oterh people. However, there is life before, after and without Fcabook. What scares me more is the people who are actually addcited and think that they cannot life without the site. Perhapos what the person called Tooley need is a friend but not a networking site.
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@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
I agree with that. Facebook is just a website. It is just a website that allows people to find other people and communicate with them. When put that way one could say Facebook is just a really complicated phone book and phone (in terms of function). I believe it is a highly overrated. People are the most important aspect of Facebook and one can have people without going through Facebook. I to think Tooley need a friend more than Facebook.
• United States
7 Sep 11
So just because I refuse to have my privacy invaded I'm dangerous? Just because I do not want strangers to play like they are my friends I'm the psychotic? Great! Does this mean this doctor will tell others to leave me alone? Good! I posted a few months ago that since I don't have Facebook to others I don't matter Now they are saying I Still don't matter And I'm dangerous. I can't be both!I think it is that same old if most are doing it Everyone Must be doing it! And if you are not , there is something wrong with you. Last time I checked there are many who not only are not on FaceBook but are not even online! so I guess the " doctor" has a plan to get Every man , woman , or child online and on Facebook! And if they can't or won't they will be deemed dangerous and then what be jailed ? Killed? What? In any case I love the idea of going from being " Nothing " to " Dangerous" ! Just by not joining Facebook!
• United States
8 Sep 11
Yes, I love it! I feel like Einstein meets Charlie " Lucky" Luciano!
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
I remember that post! :) I agree - it does seem to be one of those conformist things. If you don't do you are not right in the head! And that's been going on for centuries (can anyone say witch hunts?). It is kind of cool isn't it - you are now this super intelligent, awesomely dangerous individual just but not being on Facebook!
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
14 Sep 11
Hi there! I do not think that if anyone does not have a Facebook account, s/he is isolated or abnormal. I know many who does not have a FB account, however, they are doing very well in their life and career. I think, it is matter of personal choice and time one could devote for such activities. BTW, I have a FB account.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
15 Sep 11
It is entirely personal choice and may be sometimes professional requirement. I could not get you when you said - "I can see you having a Facebook account - you are feel like that type of person.". Please elaborate.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
14 Sep 11
That makes sense - I think it is just a lifestyle choice for many. There are some industries that require it (the internet related ones) and other industries where it just doesn't matter. I suppose it depends on how social one is. I can see you having a Facebook account - you are feel like that type of person! :)
@YoungInLove (1254)
• Canada
7 Sep 11
that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Not having a facebook account doesnt mean you are isolated to the world haha. Physically talking to someone is way more important than instant messaging someone, which I assume he did, so it defeats the purpose of the argument haha. This is once again, way to funny that they would consider him isolated lmfao
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
I guess Facebook is so popular people have forgotten that there are *gasp* other ways to communicate! ;)
@2wicelot (2945)
7 Sep 11
Before facebook people were living normal lives and I don't see how not having a facebook account would make a person abnormal. I guess some of these psychologist people just have weird opinions.
@2wicelot (2945)
8 Sep 11
That I tend to agree with.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
It does seem that way. The mind studiers often seem to be the crazy ones!
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@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
9 Sep 11
Oh my gosh, this is really annoying!! I can't believe people can sum things up like this. I recently reopened a facebook account for business purposes but that thing does not define how mentally fine you are. I'm sure there are serial killers on Facebook.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
9 Sep 11
Well someone earlier in this discussion did mention that recent Norway shooter had a Facebook account. Just as Facebook can be used for business contacts, it can also be used as a way to find and track potential victims now that I think about it. I agree that Facebook can't really be used to define one's mental state!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Well, I know for certain that there are a lot more people in the world than there are individuals that have facebook accounts and that fact doesn't make me think that those people are dangerous. That said, there are a variety of different reasons that people don't have facebook accounts so to say that just because a person doesn't have a facebook account means that they are dangerous is very wrong in my honest opinion.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
8 Sep 11
One long time friend of mine only opened his facebook account a little bit over a month ago, he is 27 years old. The reason that he'd never had an account in the past was a type of rebellion. His girlfriend at the time had cheated on him several times with men that she'd met on the internet and for that reason he didn't want to have a computer with internet connection in his house and therefore didn't have a facebook account. And in no way would I ever think he is dangerous, in fact, I left my 4-year-old to spend the night with him this past weekend. My son loves him.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Facebook has about 700 million users (last time I checked). That is about one tenth of the world's population. By no means a majority. :) I guess that means 90% of people are dangerous... I think you have a very valid opinion there. :)
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
8 Sep 11
I'm starting to wonder if Facebook paid that professor to make such claim. It's just plain stupid generalization. For me, those who rely on internet for their social life and have zero social life that as in real life are the ones who have the tendency to be psychotic. My mother don't have a facebook account, so as my sister, my brother in law and the list just goes on an on and none of them are showing signs of being psychotic nor they're showing signs of killing anyone.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
8 Sep 11
Besides there are a lot of things that exist online aside from Facebook. If someone is a member of Facebook, it doesn't mean that that's the only site he frequents. Facebook on gets my attention for 10 to 20 minutes and then I leave and go somewhere else.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
That's a really good answer. I think we all know someone in our families who is not on Facebook. There actually seems to be a great deal of people who are not on Facebook after all. If all the people without Facebook accounts are psychotic, then school shootings and the like would be the daily routine everywhere.
@Rick1950 (1575)
• Lima, Peru
7 Sep 11
Today it is used to have an account on a social network. Since the Internet was invented and offered to the people it spread around the world. A large number of people have an account on Facebook or another social network. Folks are communicating to each other on those nets –especially the young, I think. If you don't have an account you can lose contact in some way. But I think there are many other ways to have contact with people, like gathering with friends or meeting together occasionally. Then I don't think that not having an account on Facebook could be sign of something dangerous. You could be together with much people but you could feel lonelyness too. I think If you feel an inner fulfillment will not feel alone. :)
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
The internet does allow us a far great social reach! For example, you and I are a bout a continent away if one looks at our physical locations. If not the internet we probably would not be talking here right now! :) The internet can really enrich our social pursuits. However I would not go so far as to say that not socializing on the internet is a sign of mental illness. It is merely a sign of someone who wishes not to participate. I do agree that not being lonely is one of the greatest things in world! Loneliness can drive people to do some very insane things!
@brosario (11)
• United States
7 Sep 11
Sometimes I wish I didn't have a facebook account, I can't get rid of it because I have it now and something so drastic as deleting my facebook account would be known to everyone. LOL! Those people without facebook account are smart. Really Smart, maybe that's why people think that they are criminals. Criminals are intelligent and think things through. Or crazy? regardless, people who don't have facebook thought it through and didnt like the outcome
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Chained to the Facebook, eh? Sounds rough - especially if you are one of those people with over a hundred friends! I like your take though - it is really unique. I suppose Facebook is a double edged sword! :)
@arielfu (58)
• China
7 Sep 11
I dont have a facebook account and actually in our local place,people prefer to keep in touch with each other in reality life by phone,on the contrary,people who like hanging out on the internet will creat a impression--faineant
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
7 Sep 11
I know a few people who don't have Facebook accounts and they seem to be fine individuals,I don't see any sign of them turning into psychos ready to cause much suffering to others.They may be seen as a little weird by others since almost everyone has a Facebook account nowadays,but it's their choice and it should be respected;after all,many people,including myself,lost much of their initial interest in Facebook after discovering more interesting sites like Mylot,so in my opinion people who don't want to have a FB account don't loose anything,and I don't find them weird,they're just a little different like most of those who like socializing on Facebook day after day.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
That's a pretty passive attitude concerning Facebook - treating it like just another common site rather than the god of websites some people have come to see it as. That is a great point - it is only natural that people move on when something more interesting catches their eye. Facebook is nice, but it's not a tenet of the culture. It does seem to more of a thing that indicates a person's likes and preferences - not so much a person's mental state.
@pbbbsra (1214)
• Philippines
7 Sep 11
I think it is a statement without basis. There can be so many reason why a person does not have a Facebook account. It varies in age and lifestyle whether or not a person will want to have a Facebook account. It is not a requirement to have a Facebook account just to prove people you are normal.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Simple but true. I true think Facebook is just a lifestyle choice - not an indicator of one's mental health.
@ankitbhat (269)
• India
7 Sep 11
hahahaha this is funny ......facebook came into existence few years ago and before that there wasnt any facebook to socialise with people or pass your time but back then people werent criminals facebook has nothing to do with criminal psychology resulting in making you creepy or dangerous i dont buy this
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
Neither do I. Facebook is just a social networking site, not a reliable litmus test of one's mental health! Using it as such is a little bit to much of a stretch.
7 Sep 11
hi:) I have a facebook account , but my parents don't have, they communicate to their friends and family using text messaging or skype. I don't think that if a person don't have fb means s/he is a psychotic, because many older people I know don't have, but I think they are not capable of killing someone.
@Awinds (2468)
• United States
8 Sep 11
I doubt you see your parents as in the making killers because they haven't jumped on the latest digital band wagon! Facebook is a convenient social tool, but using it as a measure of isolation verse being social is just a bit to much of a stretch. As you say, there are other ways of being social, like the ways your parents use. Not having an FB account doesn't really mean anything when the fact is by itself. :)