Kim Davis is not the modern-day Martin Luther King Jr.
By Phyrre
@phyrre (2317)
United States
September 5, 2015 8:28am CST
Nor is allowing same-sex marriage equality akin to Hitler's systematic (and legal at that time) extermination of anyone that didn't conform to his standards of a perfect human.
There, it's been said. I think it needed to be said.
For those who haven't followed, Kim Davis is a clerk in Kentucky who said that she wouldn't issue same-sex marriage licenses because same-sex marriage was against her religion. She was sued by two same-sex couples as well as two heterosexual couples, all of whom were denied licenses. The court ordered her to perform her job. She again declined. She forbade her deputy clerks from issuing marriage licenses in her office. When she appeared at her court date facing contempt of court, the judge asked the deputy clerks if they would issue licenses. All except for her son (five out of six) said they would. The judge said, again, that if she allowed her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses in her stead then she would be free to leave. Again, she refused. So she landed her butt in jail for contempt of court.
Comparing this to the Civil Rights Movement is a slap in the face to all the men and women (some of whom are still alive) who put their lives on the line because blacks weren't "less than" whites and deserved equality. Comparing this to Hitler is not only woefully ignorant but a slap in the face to anyone who suffered during that genocide.
Have you been following what's happening with Kim Davis? What do you think about this situation?
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@purplealabaster (22094)
• United States
5 Sep 15
I am sure that you are wrong, and Kim Davis is really a martyr. I am sure that any day now she is going to publicly admit that she is not worthy of marriage, either, which is why she is not issuing anyone marriage licences. I am sure that she is going to request the court to order a physical examination and lie-detector test be issued during the marriage license application process, and if the couple passes (proving that they are still virgins, do not lie, steal, covet, etc.), then she will immediately issue them a marriage license.
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@purplealabaster (22094)
• United States
5 Sep 15
@topffer Oh no, I had not though about that!
I guess that the physical examination should cover a number of issues then. Of course, you could not get a divorce, since you are a good Christian and would never, ever think of doing anything against the Bible.
I guess that the physical examination should cover a number of issues then. Of course, you could not get a divorce, since you are a good Christian and would never, ever think of doing anything against the Bible.2 people like this
@topffer (42156)
• France
5 Sep 15
@purplealabaster But... but I don't want to fulfill my conjugal duties in this case
. What should I say to my wife, that I have a headache 
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. What should I say to my wife, that I have a headache ?2 people like this
@topffer (42156)
• France
5 Sep 15
I thought a second that the physical examination was to make sure that they had not the same gender. Not completely stupid. Let's say that I marry what I suppose to be a virgin girl, and that I realize during the night that it is a man. Is my marriage valid or do I need to divorce
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. Not completely stupid. Let's say that I marry what I suppose to be a virgin girl, and that I realize during the night that it is a man. Is my marriage valid or do I need to divorce?2 people like this
@TiarasOceanView (70035)
• United States
5 Sep 15
I think the whole situation is a shambles.
This woman is neither a martyr for a cause, nor is she a heroin.
This is willful defiance of the law cut and dried.
She needs to get her nose out of other peoples business period.
Her hateful nature is apparent the more I look at it.
The system needs a quick solution.
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@phyrre (2317)
• United States
5 Sep 15
Well, my biggest issue is that she claims that it's about her personal beliefs and her personal conviction and that she cannot, in good conscience, put her name on these papers. That's fine. But she's proving time and time again that it's not about herself, it's about her trying to make everyone follow what she believes.
There have been others who felt like it was a conflict of their religion, so they let their deputy clerks sign. They had other people do it so they wouldn't get involved and things would still run smoothly.
But Kim Davis has done everything she can to thwart anyone at all doing it, and she's even said that if her deputy clerks sign any marriage licenses in her absence then they are void and she will contest them once released.
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@TiarasOceanView (70035)
• United States
5 Sep 15
@phyrre Yes I see what you are saying Phyrre. She is going to come down hard when she falls. She cannot win her fight, nor can she control all she surveys and that is her goal.
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@rosekiss (30380)
• Eugene, Oregon
6 Sep 15
Whether shis is in favor of gay marriage or against it, she did take an oath that she would uphole the law. That being said, she should either resign or do what she is supposed to do. I am a christian, and I can see where she is coming from, but she did take an oath and she needs to abide by the law, whether right or wrong.
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@phyrre (2317)
• United States
6 Sep 15
I'm not Christian and I see where she's coming from, and I fully support her right to choose not to sign the certificates. What I don't support is her right to refuse the alternatives, keep anyone else from signing the certificates, and still expecting to keep her job. That just boggles my mind that anyone can follow that logic.
I mean, if I worked at Gamestop and said that selling violent games was against my religion, it would be a problem. If the person I'm working with says he's willing to sell the game since it doesn't bother him and I let him, problem avoided and I have stuck by my conviction. If my coworker offers and I say, "No, these games will not be sold, period," then I'm likely going to be out of a job.
So I definitely agree with you that she needs to fulfill her job or step down if she finds she's unable to. 
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@rosekiss (30380)
• Eugene, Oregon
6 Sep 15
@phyrre The thing of it is, she refuses to resign, but by her refusing to do her job, and beintg sent to jail, I think she will eventually have to resign as the pressure will become to great. Once she resigns, she is out of the equation, then her convictions will stand.
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@phyrre (2317)
• United States
6 Sep 15
@rosekiss Yes, that's why I feel like she's brought this on herself. If it was just about her and her convictions and she was in jail because of that then I would absolutely be on her side and protesting. But she's attempted to force her convictions on others and refused to step down to let someone else do the job, so I feel like this has all culminated because of her, "My way or the high way," attitude.
Unfortunately, a lot of people don't see it that way. They see it simply as she's being jailed for being a Christian when that's not really the case at all. =/
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@TwoEms (37)
• United States
8 Sep 15
Her job is for public service, not religious service. The church is not paying her salary. If she wants to work in a religious capacity, she is in the wrong place. Simple as that. She, and all those who are supporting her, are acting foolish and it's embarrassing that this is happening in our country in this day and age.
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