German Grandfather

Trump
@MALUSE (69373)
Germany
November 6, 2016 11:09am CST
What if? There must be zillions of posts on the net asking people to use their mental faculties to imagine an unforeseen scenario. They deal mostly with a financial windfall. "What if you won the lottery?" etc. My post, however, asks you to use your mental faculties to imagine 'What if Donald Trump's grandfather Friedrich Trumpf (the Americanised form of the family surname Drumpf) had not emigrated to the USA'? This was in 1885 when he was only 16 years old. He lived in the small town of Kallstadt in the region of Rhineland-Palatinate in the west of Germany, an area known for its viticulture since the Roman Empire. It was then a relatively impoverished region and emigrants from there constituted the greatest part of the German emigrants to the USA in those days. Friedrich made his fortune operating boom-town restaurants and boarding houses in the region of Seattle and in the Klondike Gold Rush. He later returned to Germany and married. Yet, he was forced to leave his fatherland. He was accused by German authorities to have emigrated from Germany to avoid his military-service obligations and was labeled a draft dodger. Because of this he lost his nationality and wasn't granted it again. So he moved back to the United States. He had a good nose for business. (Wikipedia) "At his death his net holdings included a 2-story, 7-room home in Queens; 5 vacant lots; $4,000 in savings; $3600 in stocks; and 14 mortgages. Altogether his net value was $31,359 ($494,700 today)." Not bad for someone who started in the New World as a barber's apprentice at the age of 16! Friedrich Trump had two sons, one of whom was named Frederick (Fred) Trump Jr. From him onwards to Donald and so on and so forth. So, if Friedrich Drumpf hadn't left Germany, would Germans experience the mess the Americans are having at the moment? I'd say 'no'. The economic and political conditions are too different. I'm glad, however, he left and spared us the Trump dynasty. Yet, unfortunately, if worst comes to worst, we'll willy-nilly also feel the seismic shock should he become President. Footnote 1 you can show off with in the next trivia quiz: Johann Heinrich Heinz, father of American food industry entrepreneur Henry J. Heinz, founder of the H. J. Heinz Company was also born in Kallstadt and emigrated to the USA. Footnote 2 Trump's father claimed to be from Sweden when the Germans' reputation in America was at its lowest. Donald Trump kept this myth alive until he was 20 years old. He tried to 'sugar the pill' by claiming that his family was from all over Europe. Yet, Kallstadt it is, a part of a town nearby with currently ~1.200 inhabitants. ----- My thanks to Barry Chadwick (@Asylum) for helping me with the photo.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
6 Nov 16
Interesting. I posted recently a discussion about a French descendant of the same Trump family, but the grandfather of this one was from UK, and did WW1 in the English army : they had a lot of migrants in this family, it is weird that DT does not like migrants.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Nov 16
I can understand why he dislikes migrants. He is a perfect example of the danger of allowing them into the country.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Nov 16
@MALUSE He sounds a perfect candidate for the US Presidency.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
@Asylum I've just watched a video on his Slovenian wife Melania who has quite a discernable accent. What a hypocrite!
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@amadeo (111938)
• United States
6 Nov 16
@maluse this is an interesting one there.Thank you for sharing.You done a good job there on the photo. How did you get both.I wonder how to do this.But never asked.always wanted to put a couple of photo out
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
@amadeo I've mentioned the member @Asylum at the end of my post. I'm sure if you ask him for help, he'll tell you what to do with your photos.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Nov 16
This is very simple Alfredo. First resize the photographs so that they are both the same height. You can then create a new blank image of appropriate size to accommodate both and import them and line them up alongside each other. Many simple tasks appear formidable purely because we are not accustomed to them.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
@amadeo Please read Asylum's answer.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Nov 16
Are you sure that his nationality was revoked due to having eluded the draft, or did some fortune teller predict the birth of his second son? I had actually forgotten about this photograph, which seems to look better than I remember.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Nov 16
@MALUSE It is a very simple job to align them.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
My information comes from Wikipedia. I hope I can trust it. Thanks again for the photo collage. It looks really good.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
@Asylum Everything is simple if you know how to do it. :-)
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• Eugene, Oregon
6 Nov 16
I think that brothels were a part Friedrich's holdings as well according to other accounts I have read. Both the current Trump and his father were sued by the government for housing discrimination too. I sort of wish that he was someone else's problem.
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@vandana7 (100223)
• India
6 Nov 16
@MALUSE .. I think he suffers from syphilis.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
@vandana7 What do you base your diagnosis on?
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
Someone else's? Who'd take him voluntarily? We don't want the Trump clan back.
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• United States
6 Nov 16
So dishonesty runs in his family.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
You could say that.
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@Daljinder (23236)
• Bangalore, India
6 Nov 16
So, Grandpa escaped or should I say ran away from mandatory military service? lol And now the grandson, Donald Trump is stealing honour badges/ medals.
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@Daljinder (23236)
• Bangalore, India
6 Nov 16
@VivaLaDani13 Going to your name in the suggestion list takes a lot of time so I am tagging you here to read the post. Thanks!
@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
@Daljinder Thanks for the recommendation!
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• Eugene, Oregon
7 Nov 16
Donald also managed to get deferrals from the draft and never served. That was during the Vietnam War.
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@PatZAnthony (14749)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
6 Nov 16
Maybe Donald Trump thinks anyone arriving in the states AFTER his family should be eligible to be kicked out. So odd, isn't he?
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• Eugene, Oregon
7 Nov 16
That is the nicest thing you could say about this egomaniac.
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@LadyDuck (471272)
• Switzerland
7 Nov 16
Are you sure the man on the left is his grandfather? He has an intelligent look.
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@LadyDuck (471272)
• Switzerland
7 Nov 16
@MALUSE You are surely right, we will never know.
@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
7 Nov 16
@LadyDuck You're right. Maybe the maternal side is responsible for what his grandson Donald became.
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
7 Nov 16
such humble new beginnings in the USA for the family from Germany, however I dont see any of that humbleness in Donald.
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@xFiacre (12970)
• Ireland
6 Nov 16
@maluse it's good to know that Ireland doesn't have a monopoly on eejits after all.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
6 Nov 16
Now that is interesting - he has both German and British ancestors, it seems. I still think he's drumming up unnecessary xenophobia, as is happening in the UK of late...
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
6 Nov 16
@MALUSE The Hebridean link might explain the gingerish hair too... and doubtless the fiery temper.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Nov 16
Trump's mother came from the Scottish Isle of Lewis.
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@WorDazza (15830)
• Manchester, England
7 Nov 16
I think slightly over half of Americans would probably love Trump's grandfather to have never left Kallstadt. The Republicans might have had a candidate worth voting for!!
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@Mike197602 (15505)
• United Kingdom
6 Nov 16
Specifically in America people want that hyphen it seems. African-American, Italian-American and such. How many generations need to go by before they become just American?? America is a country of immigrants (for the most part) but eventually it'll become just like a european country where they are just american...or maybe they won't, time will tell.
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• Eugene, Oregon
7 Nov 16
That hyphen thing never bothered me. I guess the Higgins and Allen names have been around since the early 1800s.
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@NJChicaa (119516)
• United States
6 Nov 16
Would you like to take Donald Trump to Germany? We don't want him.
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@snowy22315 (180387)
• United States
7 Nov 16
Ahhh, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
7 Nov 16
guess you looked that up there where you live? or how did you find all this info?
@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
7 Nov 16
Wikipedia! Everyone can inform themselves there.
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@BelleStarr (61102)
• United States
16 Nov 16
Well his mother is from Scotland so like most American's he is a Heinz 57!! I guess if he hadn't come here his descendant would be your chancellor!!! lol
@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
16 Nov 16
Good grief! Don't paint the devil on the wall - as the Germans say.
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@Fleura (30338)
• United Kingdom
8 Nov 16
If Germany had allowed him back things would have been different. Where did his other grandfather and his grandmothers come from I wonder?
@paigea (36317)
• Canada
8 Nov 16
An interesting piece of history.
@Ronrybs (19151)
• London, England
7 Nov 16
I sometimes like to think 'what if' and there seems to be a thriving book industry churning out alternative histories based on what if
@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
7 Nov 16
The possibilities are endless. A frightening one is: What if the Germans had won the war? There may even be a book about this, too.
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