Creation " Science"?
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
Thailand
April 21, 2007 10:44pm CST
Do you think Creation Science is true science or is it religion hiding behind science? Real science starts with a question and tries to find an answer. Creation science starts with an answer and than tries to find a question that fits the answer. How can anyone call this a science?
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@leavert65 (1018)
• Puerto Rico
22 Apr 07
Both Creation Science and evolution start with pre-conceived ideas and then try to find evidence to their model. Evolution routinely disregards any evidence that doesn't fit their model. Evolution tells us that everything has evolved. Yet they say they haven't found the evolutionary process of everything. So by your own definition of what a true science is, evolution would have to be discarded for this reason alone. Evolution is definitely a religion mixed in with a little science.
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
23 Apr 07
Your statement is not true. Evolution is not a religion! Any scientist that started with a preconceived notion and then was willing to bend the facts to prove his conclusion would be drummed out of his profession. This bending of facts is exactly what Creation "Science" does. Further information on this can be found at;
http://tinyurl.com/232dj5
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
23 Apr 07
Two references from the early eighties and one that is totally off topic. Your creditability is wearing thin.
@leavert65 (1018)
• Puerto Rico
23 Apr 07
"It is therefore of immediate concern to both biologist and lawman that Darwin is under attack. The theory of life that undermined nineteenth century religion has virtually become a religion itself and in turn is being threatened by fresh ideas. The attacks are certainly not limited to those of the creationists and religious fundamentalists who deny Darwinism for political and moral reasons. The main thrust of the criticism comes from within science itself. The doubts about Darwinism represent a political revolt from within rather than a siege from without."
- B. Leith, The Decent of Darwin: A handbook of Doubts about Darwinism (1982) p. 11
"In fact, evolution became in a sense a scientific religion; almost all scientists have accepted it and many are prepared to bend their observations to fit in with it."
H. Lipson, "A Physicist Looks at Evolution," Physics Bulletin,31 (1980), p. 138
- Michael Crichton: I studied anthropology in college. and one of the things that certain human structures always reappear. They can't be eliminated from society. One of those structures is religion. Today it is said we live in a secular society in which many people - the best people, the most enlightened people - do not believe in any religion. But I think you cannot eliminate religion from the psyche of mankind. If you suppress it in one form, it merely re-emerges in another form. You can "not" believe in God, but still have to believe in something that gives meaning to your life, and shapes your sense of the world. Such a belief is religious. - Environmentalism as a Religion September 23, 2003
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@leavert65 (1018)
• Puerto Rico
22 Apr 07
Religious statement by a professor of molecular biology:
"We know darn well that macro - evolution is taking place on other grounds that I don't have time to talk about but we are in fact completely incapable of proving it."
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@DesigningLife (903)
• United States
11 May 07
It is my opinion that Creation Theories are embellished upon and inadequately "upheld" by those who are inherently insecure and fearful of reality.
Everything has evolved, including religion. For some, it is much easier to remain stuck in thoughts of fantasy requiring no exertion of intelligence, or potential change.
When we, as humans, further evolve we will move past the prehistoric mythology of gods and religions to find the unity and truths we have been seeking all along - but which has so far escaped us BECAUSE of our quests for understanding and BECAUSE of our varying man-made religions.
I think that as our minds evolve, free of the constraints of brainwashing and blind "faith", scientific advances in microbiology and molecular biology will also evolve - along with the level of intelligence, unity, and understanding achieved by the human race.
@g3n3j0rd (721)
• Philippines
22 Apr 07
Science is just catching up with what the Bible says. For many centuries people used to think that the world is flat, although, the Bible has been saying all along that the world is round. Only during the time of Galileo that science discovered that the world is round. LOL!
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
22 Apr 07
Untrue! Please go back and read your Bible. It states that the earth is flat, unmoving and the centre of the universe. They almost killed Galileo for saying it wasn't. This will tell you where to look in the Bible.
http://tinyurl.com/z2s6s
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@leavert65 (1018)
• Puerto Rico
22 Apr 07
Chiang, since you already know this to be the case, can you point out for us where in the Bible it teaches that the world is flat?
Are modern meteorologists unaware that the sun doesn't actually rise in the east and set in the west or are they speaking with regards to how it appears to us living on Earth?
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@leavert65 (1018)
• Puerto Rico
22 Apr 07
Interesting. Could you give us the book, chapter and verse in the Bible where it states that the earth is flat?
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@buri2_jaemon (619)
• Indonesia
8 May 07
hm i think science and religion is each other supporting, so creation science is still science and it's not big problem with religion
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
8 May 07
Creation is pseudoscience. It has no resemblance to true science.
@lou8is (23)
• United States
4 May 07
in their desire to find evidence of "ape-men," some scientists have been taken in by outright fraud,for example, the piltdown man in 1912.for about 40 years it was accepted as genuine by most of the evolutionary community.finally,in 1953, the hoax was uncovered when modern techniques revealed that human and ape bones had been put together and artificially aged. in another instance, an apelike "missing link" was drawn up and presented in the press.but it was later acknowledged that the "evidence" consisted of only one tooth that belonged to an extinct form of pig.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
4 May 07
What does any of this have to do with the fact that Creation "Science" is not a science but religion pretending to be science. The fossil record contains many specimens of hominids that are not fake but setting that aside the Human Genome Project and the resulting science of comparative genomics has pretty much settled the fact that evolution has happened and is happening. Any doubt there was is gone.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
7 May 07
As a result of the Human Genome Project the science of comparative genomics has developed. Comparative genomics has provided clear evidence of the process of evolution.
@leavert65 (1018)
• Puerto Rico
4 May 07
More empty assertions! How has the Genome Project accomplished this?
