TAX PAYERS, do you get a good deal?
By ESKARENA1
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
April 22, 2007 6:15am CST
I hear a lot about the interests of the tax payer, and believe me, I pay my way. However, when ever a welfare project is to be cut or a social prograqmme is discontinued, I am told it will save the tax payer money. Yet, after the cuts my tax rises, so who exactly gets the money saved, because it certainly is never this tax payer, thats for sure.
I would like someone to be honest here and acept that welfare cuts are a result of jealousy and greed than any mythical idea of saving tax payers money
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@derek_a (10873)
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22 Apr 07
I don't think such cuts are anything to do with the taxpayer. I mean all governments get more from the Brit taxpayer than most other countries do and yet, they seem to get by even better than us!
There are welfare scroungers no doubt, but there are people in genuine need. I can't understand how it is so difficult for them to tell the difference. We pay taxes for the privelege to live in this country, and then we pay taxes for the privelege to die in this country. And yet with all this, we are still in trouble with our health service.
I don't want to be a killjoy for sport lovers, but why do we need to spend such a huge amount of money on the forthcoming Olympic Games? I know it's lottery money, but in our local hospital, the money for the care in the community for post heart attack victims, has stopped. It was funded by the lottery.
I'm no accountant, but I can't help getting the feeling that we are being blinded by technical stuff when it comes to fiscal stuff at government level. To me, it should me money in, and then paid out to where is was promised. If there was such commitment and integrity, maybe the world would work.
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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22 Apr 07
i agree with every word. My problem is simply this, if we had no health service, no education asystem even no olympics, would my tax bill be less? no, of course it wouldnt be, so why is taxation and provision linked in this way by the media?
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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22 Apr 07
hahaha thats great yes we are still punished in many ways often for knowing the truth
blessed be
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@derek_a (10873)
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22 Apr 07
It doesn't look like things have really changed at all really. Us "peasants" were kept in our place at one time by keeping us out of reach. Even the church did this with their tithing. They probably just got different names for it now. And they can't exactly burn us at the stake for acquiring knowledge.
Looks like persecution is still there, it's all done on a financial level.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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23 Apr 07
it certainly isnt coming this way anyhow, but im still paying even when provision in my name
blessed be
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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22 Apr 07
but why? would expenditure cuts make you pay less?
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@nowment (1757)
• United States
23 Apr 07
Tax cuts to programs that benefit welfare, the handicaped or Seniors are so that the goverment can pocket more money for the projects where the politions get kickbacks from the companies that benefit from the money that is removed from those programs that are needed.
SO I agree with you greed is behind the cut backs and my taxes have never been lowered after the goverment has "cut back" and "saved" me money.
The only people that benefit from those tax cuts are those who are wealthy enough to not use those cut back services and have enough money that they can afford to pay more not less taxes yet they get the tax breaks.
The economy of any country is mostly based on the poor working class. The working class keep things going, pay the most taxes when you put it in comparison to their income and cost of living expenses.
I keep stating let the politicians actually LIVE on minimum wage then see who gets tax breaks, what programs get cut back, and what the cost of living increases would be.
It is not going to happen but it should. The President should be forced to live at least a year as should ever congressman, and senator, live a year on minimum wage, no extra health benefits other than what minimum wage workers are getting, no extra income sources, etc.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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23 Apr 07
agreed, all those who make decisions effecting our future should first of all had to live on income support in my mind. In this group i would include all judges and civil servants too
blessed be
@arcadian (930)
• United States
23 Apr 07
Naturlaly I have a couple of things to say about thhis. I am officially poor in America, which is to say my income is below $16,000 per year. Every week money is taken out for taxes and is used and at the end of the year I can file for a refund of some or all of it. which I get. Now i should in fairness-if indeed this is fair- beaable to say at the outset that I don't have to pay taxes and not have tht money taken out of my pay. which is so small i can barely make it work- but that's another story. I am single with no dependents and so pay the highest rate. When the money comes back to me, it has been in use by the government for a year. I do not get it back with interest. But the bills I can't pay until the refund comes charge me interest for being late. I say this with full awareness that america is a land that despises poverty, our real religion being money- and that I am call ing this contempt down on myself by this statement. Okay so the goveernment uses 17% of my income to some piddling thing and then hands it backc to me and I should be glad and be quiet.alright. the other thing is I read today that with all the welfare and medicaid cuts- infant mortality in the poorer states is on the rise. Well, that's the cost of serious military spending. We eat our young.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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23 Apr 07
wow, well i pay 23 percent on everything i earn then a further 17 percent on anything i sopend, if i save it i pay tax on my interest. On top of this i pay a local services tax. These taxs all rise annually. I get no refunds at all, but much worse than this, if someone wants to cut welfare or any other social projects, it is done in my name. Well, i like welfare and social projects and object strongly to cuts being carried out in my name. If after a cut, my tax fell, maybe i could see a link, but it never falls. The cuts however continue
blessed be
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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23 Apr 07
oh my dear friend, i am in the beautiful north of England, your 5 am is probably about my 10 am. I have a day off work today
blessed be
@arcadian (930)
• United States
23 Apr 07
Now I feel stupid for complaining- but in fact we are talking about the same thing- I want the money to be spent on providing food and shelter and clothing and education for single parents, and elderly people and disabled people, we have more cuts in the works- and I wan't counting sales tax and other taxes only the federal income tax- but you are shelling out a lot more than I am, and like me you have no say in the spending.
But its five oçlock in the morning. why are you up doing Mylot? Can't sleep either?
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