Teenagers, Drinking & Parents...
@HeavenUnaware (1757)
United States
April 23, 2007 10:33am CST
I need to vent a little and also want to hear your views on this subject.
Those of you with teenagers - did you ever allow your children to hang out at home with all their friends and drink while you were right there with them? Is this the norm these days? Is it more important to be "liked" or the "cool parent" than being the responsible adult who abides by the laws and rules regarding underage drinking?
I'd really like the views/opinions of others.
Here's why I'm asking:
My son and his friends were hanging out on Saturday night outside our home. My son asked if he could go with them to stop by a friends house, who was having a little get-together. I said sure and they left. Not even 20 minutes later, he's back home. We got to talking about the 'party' and who was there, why he came home so early etc. He said that it was cool, lots of people he knew there but everyone was smoking and drinking so they left. I wanted to know details, of course, and come to find out - the mom was right there going back and forth between the living room and kitchen where all the kids were hanging out. He said they were drinking beer, one little girl was carrying around this 'strange bottle' of something, kids were in the kitchen doing shots and who knows what else was going on. Him and his friends aren't into that kind of stuff and felt uncomfortable so they left.
Just so everyone is clear - my son is in the 10th grade. He's 16 years old. Most of the children at this party were the same age and grade. The girl having the party is a cheerleader at my son's school and I'm just so shocked and appalled that her mother was fine with all of this going on in her home. These kids are JUST starting to drive. Most of them have just received their licenses.
Let me tell you, I'm thinking of a million different ways I can report her the next time I find out it's going on. Maybe I should keep my nose out of it but the image of someone's child being killed because they were drinking and driving or some innocent person is killed, who happened to be going home at the same time one of these drunk teens gets behind the wheel.. is enough to make me see that my nose does belong in this as long as I live in this community and drive on these roads.
What's your view?
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18 responses
@emisle (3822)
• Ireland
23 Apr 07
You should be proud that your son had the good sense to leave..:) I know many teens who would have jumped to have been in that situation. Over here the drinking age is 18, but there is a lot of underage drinking that goes on. That mother should be ashamed of herself letting those kids carry on as they did.
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
23 Apr 07
Thank you for your response, emisle.
You are right, the mother should be ashamed of herself.
The thing is, it could be me or my son that are killed by some dumb kid coming home from one of her parties. Somehow I doubt a person like her even cares.. not until it happens to her will she see the 'light'.
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@Itrustngod (79)
• United States
23 Apr 07
I am against parents letting thier kids drink while they are in thier presence. my girls were teens I told the that there will come a time when they would want to try the drinking and the smoking and if they did I would want to be there. Rather it be somewhere wwhere they could be hurt. They agreed and The time did come and when it happen . Thank God they didnt like it.
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
23 Apr 07
Thanks for your response. I'm glad your kids didn't like it. It's not even something that tastes good, in my opinion. Kids do it for the buzz factor or being able to act like they are out of control and like to take risks. I guess that's an attraction to others but to some people it makes them look like idiots.
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@icequeen (2840)
• Canada
24 Apr 07
I totally agree with you. At least your son has some sense. I can't believe that there are adults out there who think that this kind of behaviour is okay. There is no way these kids should be at her house..drinking..smoking and doing lord knows what else. This woman should be held accountable. You are right to want something done about this...you should talk to the other parents ...and see what thier views are? Maybe they don't even know what goes on?
Good luck...
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
24 Apr 07
Thanks for your response. You're right, most of the parents probably do not know what is going on. So many parents don't care or don't want to put in the energy to stay involved in what their kids are doing, who they are with and where they are going. My son knows that if I even suspect for a second that he is lying to me about where he is going - I will check on him. More parents need to get off the couch and see where their kids are and what they are doing. I bet they would be very suprised!
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@UnHolyLove (96)
• India
23 Apr 07
I say don't report the girl. Let her ruin her life. You got a smart son there.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
24 Apr 07
Thank goodness your son and his friends have behaved so sensibly.
I can sort of see where the mother is coming from...having her kids and their friends under her roof but the situation seems out of control. If they decide to get in their cars and drive (as they do) there is little hope that they will come off unscathed...it's only a matter of time.
As for reporting her, I'd be visiting your local police station and asking to see the duty sergeant and sitting down with him and asking him what should be done. Present the facts, not your emotions, just the facts and ask him to look into the matter for you. You will have passed the onus of responsibility you feel onto the authorities then.
Congratulations on raising your son so well.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
23 Apr 07
On special occasions we allowed it but not one of the kids was allowed to have a drink of any kind until they turned their car keys over to me. My thoughts were - I would rather my kids do it at my house than someplace else. I can't begin to tell you how many kids I driven home.
@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
23 Apr 07
I wanted to add that I'm glad you are driving these kids home but that doesn't change the fact that you are allowing these kids to put something into their body that is causing them to have zero control over themselves, it's harming them and possibly going to contribute to them becoming alcohlics in the long run. If they can't drive home, that's a bad sign.
Just my two cents.
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@Stiletto (4579)
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23 Apr 07
My daughter is an adult now but when she was a teenager (I'm talking 16 upwards) she did occasionally have friends round and they would have a drink. I'm talking maybe 3 or 4 friends at a time though - not a party! I would have objected if any of them drank to excess in the house but they never did. The reality was there would be 4 of them watching a video and sharing 2 cans of lager between them all so it wasn't really a wild night! None of them smoked anyway so it wasn't an issue. The possible alternative to them hanging out at home was hanging around in the street drinking (which a lot of young people do here) and that seemed like a much more dangerous option to me.
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@GardenGerty (160908)
• United States
24 Apr 07
My view on this situation is that you have a fine son, and friend, and I hope they stay alive by continuing to avoid such "cool" behavior. It sounds as if you have done something right. Simply phone in an anonymous tip the next time you find out this is happening.
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
24 Apr 07
Thank you for your response Gerty. An anonymous tip is an excellent idea.
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@amitshirsath1602 (36)
• India
28 Apr 07
drinking is itself a bad habit. teenagers go to this way because one of their friend is in this way. but i think parents should be friendly enough that their children tell them what they did whole day, also strict enough that if they have done a wrong thing it should be punished. parents should look to their children seriously and always suggest good things.
@cjthedog64 (1552)
• United States
23 Apr 07
You should feel really lucky that your son is so open and honest with you. I know many, many kids would have stayed and joined in, or left and not said anything. This is one reason that I'm a little happy that SS15 doesn't have too many friends, and they're only interested in video games. I do worry about SD12 falling into this crowd though. She lives with her mom and is allowed to hang out unsupervised at troublemaker friend's houses. Last time, they spray painted the side of a house and got sent to court for it... I totally agree with how you want to deal with this if you know about it happening. I kind of understand how parents want their kids to be safer by handling the keys and controling the drinks, but I think it's much safer to just step up and teach your kids right from wrong in the first place. You've got yourself a special boy!
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
23 Apr 07
cj thank you so much for your response and the kind words. I appreciate it. ♥
I'm glad your son isn't being sucked into those types of groups of kids. I'm sorry your SD is making some bad choices in her life but hopefully she opens her eyes and makes different decisions in the future.
I agree with you that's much safer and better to just step up and teach your kids right from wrong in the first place.
I wanted to say that I know it's possible for kids to have a good time without all the drinking, smoking and swearing too.
On Friday night my son went by another party that another cheerleader girl was having for her birthday and he said it was so much fun. All of the 'good' kids were there and they were having clean fun. Dancing, playing in a bounce house, talking etc. I know there wasn't any drinking or smoking or cussing going on because this is a very 'proper' strong church family and their daughter is adorable and isn't into all that other stuff. She reminds me alot of my son in a female version. They have alot of the same goals in life which is refreshing to see. He said there were alot of the popular kids there, acting stupid and when they realized there weren't any drinks going around, they left - and then he said the party was nicer because the stress of trying to making those other kids happy or whatever was gone.
Good luck with your SK's!
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
24 Apr 07
Diana, Very good discussion. You always come out with your expereinces which are really thought provoking and very very meaningful to the parents who face the same situation which you faced.
I believe.... we just cannot ignore... what our teenaged daughters and sons do...we just cannot close our eyes. For getting the tag of 'cool parents' we should not let free our teenage daughters and sons. There should be some check and there should be some boundary line. No doubt there is difference of culture in your place and here in India but even then... if we feel that our children are crossing boundary line ...for that matter their friends also.... they should be told in strict terms that this is not acceptable. Because giving a loose handle to them and by not keeping any check or tab on them....in the long run... we are going to be in trouble.
Deepak
@collstarx (1177)
• Indonesia
23 Apr 07
Sometimes we should not see the face someone to see what he was good or bad, the change in the attitude someone was determined by his environment, the child that innocent sometimes so not innocen again because he has seen what necessarily not he saw.
@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
23 Apr 07
Thanks for your response. I bet they could be friends ♥
I'm lucky that most of my son's true friends are good kids who do not drink or smoke. Of course they have other circles of friends from school that they mingle with (like the girl that had this party) but they aren't really close and when it comes down to it, my son isn't impressed by her or her types of friends that do drink and smoke and he's not going to feel pressure to be in that group of kids. He would rather hang out with his friends and have good clean fun. It makes my heart happy to know there are GOOD kids in this world that are breaking the stereotypes placed on teens these days. I'm glad our boys are standing out for being themselves and not being swayed by peer pressure to follow the crowd. I'm glad boys like ours are going to be healthier and better off in the long run for not engaging in such activities.
My son is still 'cool' and still has plenty of friends despite the fact that he doesn't go to many of these parties and doesn't sit around acting stupid and getting drunk just to impress other kids who are too drunk to even notice in the first place.
We aren't raising our sons to be stupid, thankfully.
I applaud you - stay involved in your son's life, let him know you care and love him.
Thanks for your response!
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@Allieloopy (84)
• United States
24 Apr 07
Besides being illegal this is a touchy subject. When I was young we used to hang out at my friends house. We could smoke and drink in front of and even with her mother. I even did acid with my friend and her parents knew. If my mother knew any of that she would have killed me.
Now that I have a daughter I am deathly afraid of the "cool moms" that can't seem to grow up. Baloney about they will be safer if they do it at my house. It is illegal and if one of my kids friends got killed I could never forgive myself.
As a foster parent I have had to think long and hard about the rules of my house. I want to be fair but I am strict and it will be that way or nothing. So if it is illegal then it isn't happening in my home.
So what is to stop my daughter from going to someone elses home? I will try to keep her busy with organized activities, be aware of her friends and what she is doing. I know that I can't stop her but I sure can try to give her the right foundation to let her make the right choices.
@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
24 Apr 07
I completely understand what you are saying. I even told my son later that night when we were running out for a late night fast food snack, that some kid from that party could be on the same roads as us right then and kill us or themselves and if I was that mom, I wouldn't be able to live with knowing I was a part of that outcome.
It's hard being a mom but you just need to talk to your kids from a very early age. Treat them as humans and not people less than you. Respect them and teach them to respect you in return. Be honest with them and talk to them about everything - let nothing be off limits. Make sure they know how much you love them and have their best interest at heart. Let them know what you expect from them and praise them as much as you can but also let them know when they have let you down or disappointed you and how much it hurts. It will teach them to understand where you are coming from and that it doesn't feel good to let the person who loves you the most down - in turn they won't want to do it again. If you stay active in your child's life, everything will be o.k.
People have made me feel kinda of crappy for making my son the center of my universe but he's only under my care for 18 years, really and I think when I had him that was a sacrifice I was willing to make (even though I can't say it's a sacrifice when I've enjoyed every minute of it). It has paid off - I'm seeing the fruits of my labor and I'm glad I made him my everything because he knows he's in that spot and he appreciates that someone cares that much for him.
It's hard for me to explain but I just don't want you to worry about those 'cool' moms. I consider myself pretty cool as well, I'm my son's friend but he knows I'm his mother first. His friends come and hang out at our house and joke with me .. and vice versa. They like being here and doing things with us which earns me brownie points. We have special traditions like our annual beach party and bonfire or our snowboarding trips and things like that where the kids get to have fun but in a healthy fun way. The way teens SHOULD be having fun.
I'm sure one day your daughter will be in the same spot my son was in the other night and if you talk to her often from the time she's old enough to understand, then she will come home after being at the party for 20 minutes and tell you how 'stupid those other kids are'.. and your heart will swell with happiness.
♥
Thanks for your response!
@lov_hacker (121)
• United States
24 Apr 07
never ...!! i never drink and i same as would like my kids dont drink as well :) its just that simple ....with friends ??? oh !! ....this is something very very serious after all first they drink then they will get of control and then they will bring girls and all that stuffz ....that s simple out of this world ....
i would probably like my child to be as good as a simple person :)
but may be sometimes ....he will be allowed to do such things ...after all kids have heart too ...
driving when drunked is a major issue and is incresing throughout the world ...authorities cant do much about it ...but we can ......we can stop our children for being such ....like this ....!!
@rohit2251 (28)
• India
24 Apr 07
teenagers generally have the curiosity about the things which they see that other persons are using like their dad or uncle.so they start first time due to this curiosity. and if they are not stopped at right time it becomes their habit. this is the resposibility of parents that they give freedom to their child in limit and take the watch on the activites which he perform if there any thing look susupicious try to solve it. tell child about bad effects of these things show them the live examples and tell them that you will not allowed all these things in his home.
@skbadhan (879)
• India
24 Apr 07
ya thesedays this a comman problem we are facing everywhere same is the case in india though there are no hard rules to stop children drinking leagly.teen age is a period of time when the chances of doing wrong things or felling in wrong company are more. now a days parents can only advice their childrens thats too if they are ready to listen
@paorob (49)
• Philippines
24 Apr 07
I don't have a child yet, but i am a son so I think I can help here. Well, sometimes you should make rules for your sons and daughters. You shouldn't just let them get away with what they want because in the end, the parents will suffer. My parents are strict sometimes but they can become loose to and I think because they grew me up as that kind of person, who respects them, I consider myself a good son. We do crazy things at time but if proper guidance is given, we would eventually lisen. WE will hate parents for a while but then it will subside after.