Quit attacking me for having a different opinion than yours
By Swtrose
@Swtrose (3385)
Canada
May 1, 2007 3:01am CST
Please do not start a discussion if you are going to be offended by an honest reply. Not everyone is going to agree with everything you say and we all bring different opinions to mylot, but there is no reason to attack someone on mylot and call them rude just because they did not agree with a discussion you started. I offended another mylotter today when I posted an honest opinion to a discussion she started. I was the only one who opinion different from the majority, but that sure does not make me rude. I was trying to be helpful and not hurtful.
Yesterday I was blasted when I responded to another response where I was merely looking out for the best interest of the person posting. We can't please everyone here on mylot, but if you are starting discussions with only wanting to hear replies that agree with your opinions then why on earth even start discussions.
The last time I checked I had a right to my opinion just like you do.
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47 responses
@sreevasu (2717)
• India
1 May 07
You are right Swtrose. MyLot is a discussion forum and everyone has the right to post their response agreeing or disagreeing with the topic. After all discussions means that. Or discussions should be like that. Only when different kinds of opinion arises one good understand as to how many view points are there on one topic and how different people think it different ways. There is a word from Voltire, the French Philosopher and it goes like: "I may disagree with what you say, but I will give up my life for your right to say that." This should be the attitude/approach of every myLot member. Thanks
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@smacksman (6053)
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1 May 07
What absolute rubbish!
How DARE you think that you can dissagree with the person who posted the discussion! They started it so they must have first call on all opinions. Anybody who says different must be rude by definition.
Come on!!!
Now this is worded to see who reads posts and who replies with a knee jerk reaction. I have been ripped apart by a poster when I was trying to support her but at the same time offering a view as to the possible cause of her distress. Wow! did I ever get and earful! I'm afraid in a public forum you will always get shot at if you are not with the majority. Pity, bet there it is.
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@chocobaby (677)
• Philippines
1 May 07
i definitely agree. everyone is entitled with his/her own opinion and no one has the right to lambast someone just because his view does not agree with yours or with the majority. that is why it is called 'discussion'. it's an exchange of views/thoughts from different individuals from all walks of life about certain topics given at a time.
by the way, what was that discussion you were referring to, swtrose?
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@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
1 May 07
You make a totally valid point, unfortunately people don't want to hear other opinions--whether they be good opinions, or God forbid, smell slightly of the truth. What people want to hear is others who back their opinion. Take, for example, when most people ask for advice--chances are they already know the right thing to do, but what they want to hear is someone else to tell them to do what they already want to do in the first place. The exception to these rules, of course, are the few intelligent and educated enough, who understand that the truth is bigger than any one of our opinions and the more viewpoints you add, the closer to the truth you will probably get. I agree with you on your very last sentence--we all have the right to our own opinions, and this forum of mylot is supposed to be for an exchange of them... My friend, try not to let yourself be hurt by these people. Back when I was in high school we had an expression for such people, we'd say: "**** the bozos!"
@sudeshna22 (390)
• India
1 May 07
You are right. We all hve different opinions and thought process. I always like people who write thier own opinions. After all a discussion means that there will be a comnination of positive and negative opinions. If we can remember this simple thing, there will be no unhealthy discussions here or nobody will be definied as "rude".
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@ereign472 (81)
• United States
1 May 07
Brava! Standing ovation from me. I just responded to a couple of posts that were fishing for compliments. I was the one who had the nerve to call them out on it. Rude? Maybe, but as Grandma always said, "If you ask the obvious question, you will get the obvious answer." She's a smart lady!
@Denmarkguy (1845)
• United States
1 May 07
What you're saying here very much reminds me of something my dad told me, when I was about 12: "Don't ask a question you're not prepared to hear the answer to."
I think some people lose sight of the fact that MyLot is a DISCUSSION forum, not a SOCIAL NETWORK. Sure, there are aspects of social networking here, but the way we communicate and participate in the community is through something even the site owners call DISCUSSIONS.
I say this, because one of the issues with the social network format is that it has a certain "popularity contest" atmosphere... meaning that a lot of people are just looking for others who'll validate them and their points of view. That's all fine and dandy... but it's not what "discussing" is about... the whole point is to ask questions and offer disparate points of view. Unfortunately, some people's self-esteem is fragile... and for them, "disagreement" feels like an "attack" and they respond according to how they feel.
Of course, some people ARE rude (I have encountered a few) and tend to say things like "only an idiot would believe something like that" when coming across a point-of-view they don't agree with. Smacksman posted a good facetious example of this, as well. But that's more an issue of common courtesy and debating etiquette, than differing viewpoints.
On a separate note, I commend you for not falling victim to the "sheep effect" and just answering with the majority....
@anonymili (3138)
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1 May 07
Gosh myLot would indeed be very boring if everyone was sweet and nice all the time and didn't disagree with anyone and all held the same opinions. The whole point of many people posting here is to get a variety of opinions. There is a civil way to respond to people without causing offence and if done properly no one should get annoyed or take responses the wrong way. If we all knew everything why would we be asking advice on this site and why would be bother coming here unless our ID was God and we were in fact God?! Of course you're entitled to your opinion just as anyone else does, but remember there are different levels of maturity here and people also have the right to take offence if they feel they are being personally attacked (not that I'm saying you did that) :)
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@Impervious (1147)
• United States
1 May 07
Talk about hitting the nail on the head there. I was thinking the same thing to myself the other day. I think that the people that act this way are just looking for the people that will allow them to feel sorry for themselves and lend a sympathetic ear.
The minute that you tell some people that they should buck up or that you think that they are wrong they get offended.
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@unithorn (193)
• United States
1 May 07
Exactly. Many people are seeking sympathy, not solutions.
Maybe we should establish an acronym for discussion titles, to keep everyone from wasting their time. Here are some ideas, which are spawning because I haven't slept in 30someoddhours.
JWTW - Just Want to Whine
FSFM - Feel Sorry for Me
YAAW - You Are Always Wrong
IWYL - I Win, You Lose
LOTL - Liberal on the Loose!
COTL - Conservative on the Loose!
YAAD - Yet ANOTHER Abortion Discussion
YTMN - Your Thoughts Mean Nothing
LTMB - Listen to me B**ch
***I would like to point out, however, that it's definitely worth overlooking a few bad eggs. I've had a great deal of fun thusfar on MyLot and have been intrigued, inspired, and challenged by many excellent questions posted here.***
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@mahmah (436)
• United States
1 May 07
I do agree with you Swtrose. For the most part the point of this site is to give and gather opinions. I have a favorite "Opinions are like...." saying but it isn't really appropriate for here-lets just say it ends with ...everyone has one. LOL If I post a discussion I expect an honest response from the posters. Whether it be for or against my own personal opinion. I have seen a lot of responses on mylot that appear to be rude. but they most likely aren't. We all speak differently, use different phrases, different slang etc. So what may be rude to one may be funny to the other. Everything I read, I pretty much take with a grain of salt. If I don't agree with a response, that is fine, I was asking for opinions after all. :)
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@charlestchan (1415)
• Malaysia
1 May 07
swtrose.. i agree with you.. actually.. what's a discussion? i thought we're suppose to discuss and not quarell.. why some people can end up quarelling here? seriously.. i think this is ridiculous.... why can't accept others opinion? if you open a discussion.. you cant expect others to accept your opinion.. if everyone accepts your opinion.. then why discuss then? it won't make a difference with a dictator.. don't you think so? i just know when i open a discussion.. anyone is free to criticize me and teach me.. tell me where i'm wrong.. i will learn.. and i won't be rude to anyone.. that's all =)
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@karthik26_89 (376)
• India
1 May 07
You are right swtrose.I agree with you.Now even if i dont agree i wont be rude to you.But i really agree to this.We are just posting our opinions.If they want they can take it or they can just ignore it.No one can be called rude for just expressing their opinions.We are just saying what our mind says.Everyone has different opinions and we cannot say anything about others opinion.If you like it grasp it or else just forget about it.Please dont tell they are rude.
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@thepaperfanatic (58)
• United States
1 May 07
You are absolutely right, Swtrose! I am very new here and I believe EVERYONE has a right to their own opinion. It is not rude to be honest.
Can't people agree to disagree? The first time I did that was with my father. He is one political party and I am the opposing political party. He liked the local football team, I like the rivals of the local football team. We never agreed on anything but we vowed to hear each other's opinions and agreed to disagree - never calling each other names or being rude. We were just honest with each other.
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@PsychoDude (2013)
• Netherlands
1 May 07
Agreed, not only on myLot, but for everywhere that should be the case. Many people though tend to start a discussion by the belief that they are right and are not prepared for the possible responses they shall get. Especially if they forget what the point of discussing is. It is not to be a preacher man and give others your beliefs and views, nor is to to take those of others. But simply standing open minded to the input of other people.
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@academic2 (7000)
• Uganda
1 May 07
You are very right Swtrose, it would be very naive for any mylotian to expect that every body will always share one oppinion-we are global and not local hence our thinking will always have a mix of both global and local idea-now any divergent views should only help as learn, It should not make us take offence!
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
1 May 07
There are so many people here and in the worls that thinks that their opinion id the right one and that all people has to agree. We are all created differently and we are intitled to our opinions just like u say... Just dont care about them poeople who can not accept that u have a different view on some things =)
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@unithorn (193)
• United States
1 May 07
The population has become INSANELY hypersensitive...and I still can't figure out why.
As I said in a similar discussion earlier, I have had negative reviews just because my answers (no matter how intelligent or researched) did not coincide with the majority. Especially in any topic regarding abortion, since there is severe religious ties in those emotions as well for many posters here on MyLot.
The only time that I am apologetic on MyLot is when someone is being harassed. In a discussion where a young man was remorseful over the abortion that he and his girlfriend chose to have, he was (essentially) looking for advice on how to cope with his mental pain...and there were many people saying that he was a murderer, implying that his soul was ruined forever, etc...
I am pro-choice, but that opinion has little to do with the fact that he had come to this group looking to be helped, not shot at.
This is also a very thick problem in American society. We have become so hypersensitive and so PC and so...dull, boring, and afraid of each other, that we are almost scared to relay information, to make a joke, to make someone else smile. People have become sue-happy and whiney...it's absolutely disgusting.
So, what happens if I start a group that is offended by everyone being so PC? Would everyone also have to adhere to my rights...therein contradicting all of this timid nonsense? It's ridiculous.
Either grow up, or become a hermit. This world is a vast, beautiful place bursting with individuals who have thoughts, emotions, opinions, and dreams. Absorb, accept, deny, whatever - let's just please stop silencing each other. We are here to learn and share, not to discriminate.
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@CarlyLaine (759)
• United States
1 May 07
GAWD!!! What's up with that anyway? Sometimes if the discussion (mostly control issues or something about how horrible AMERICA is) I can get a little heated. But I think I should be able to say what I would say if the person were standing in front of me saying whatever.
I agree with you swrose. We all have rights to our opinions. I love the challenge of opposite ideas-even if they tick me off.
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@4cuteboys (4099)
• United States
4 May 07
I know what post you are talking about and thought that her response and the other person's response to you was ridiculous! You weren't mean or rude, you stated your point of view, and left it at that, and were even pretty friendly towards her. It's childish that people can't listen to a point of view that might be different than they wanted to hear! Too bad! Thats why it's called a discussion, it would be mighty boring if everyone had the same things to say.
@hollowheart (1572)
• India
1 May 07
Hi Rose probably I am able to relate to this discussion. Anyways i am not saying u were wrong. However maybe u could try and be a little more indirect, thats just o avoid someone getting hurt. I understand u r true from ur heart and wanted to help. But if it is a complain coming from a lot of users why not change the response nature a bit and see how is it.
I am sure its gonna work.