Abortion - Father and rights

The mother is denying the right to life. Yes it is her body, but there is a life inside that body. That human being inside of a woman who can not speak for themselves has a right to be born. As you said who better to speak for that little human than the father.

Because the child inside that woman's body is HIS unborn child.

A father should get a vote in the matter becuase abortion is not a woman making a decision about her body. Abortion is a woman makin a decision about a life inside her. That life inside her should get a vote in the matter.

Not wanting to be a parent and not wanting to be pregnant are two entirely different things. Many women who wouldn't mind carrying the fetus do so and hand it over to the father. However not wanting to carry the pregnancy in the first place is where the abortion comes in. Quite frankly, no male has a say in that. If she is not mentally or physcially able or willing to carry then pregnancy, then until it can be transferred to the male, he has no say in whether it stays or goes.

The law in the US does not require the man's consent or permission. What I am saying is that if the law were changed to require a male's consent (which is crazy- then you'd have to prove paternity too) then the law could just as easily allow that a male has the right to decide that she should terminate. The bottom line is it's a woman's body, no one- partner, parents, friends, politicians has the right to tell her what should happen to her body.

Eden he could not force her to have an abortion should she want the baby, just as she could not abort if he wanted the baby.

First of all, no one is in complete control of when conception occurs. It's not like anyone actually wills themselves get pregnant just to have an abortion. If women could will their own conception abilities, there would never be a need for abortion, nor would there be infertility problems. And secondly, pregnancy is quite a bit more than an "inconvenience" for most women. Even when you want the child, pregnancy can be extremely difficult and carries with it side effects that will never go away. Medical expences, complications and interferance with jobs or schools can be very damaging to one's life and health, both mental and physical.

I don't see how that's an easy solution. That still leaves the woman with almost a year of her life devoted to growing a child she doesn't wish to have. If there are complications she'll face missing school or work, medical expenses, not to mention however it effects her health in a general sense.

Eden, she should of thought of that before becoming pregnant. Again why take a life to spare oneself of an inconvenience brought on by your own actions. If your two year old suddenly becomes an inconvenience you don't murder it so why abort the unborn?

I do agree!

What about the baby's rights? What about the father's rights?

Even if it violates the womans rights? Makes her a second class citizen. I'll repeat this: Declaration of Human rights: All are equal before the law. You can't simply take her rights away the way you can't take the rights away of anyone. Pregnant or no.

It's unfair to kill a life to spare yourself of an inconvenience brought on by your own actions.

Permanent Birth Control: Tubal Ligation or Vasectomy.

Its unfair for a person to have to endure morning sickness, weight gain, and whatever comes along with pregnancy just becuase they are forced to. Especially if they are a rape victim.

How do you know that the father does not want the baby and women have an abortion to spare themselves of an inconvenience brought on by their own actions. Not all women who abort on abused and cheated on. You just stereotyped all the men in relationships where the woman has aborted. Statistics Canada reports 245,825 – number of one-parent families headed by men as of 2001 Census. I imagine that number is higher now. Just over half of those fathers have children under 18. Nearly 10% of them have all children under the age of six. You can't say that all men don't want the woman to have an abortion so they can hurt the woman. The fetus is human and if not aborted will grow to be a fully functioning child. So you are saying that it is ok for the woman to murder the baby because it is in her body, but the father should have no rights in parenting the child? Then should the father pay child support should she decide not to have an abortion and keep the baby?

Tubal ligation.

No? So you are just going to use abortion as a form of birth control?

If your willing to adopt a special needs child, an older child or a non-white child; it is a very simple process and a very quick process. Couples who have been waiting for more than a few months, are waiting because they are only willing to adopt a white, healthy, infant.

A hospital is not going to fill a surgeon position because they have to take off for medical leave, seesh. I'm laughing hysterically at your arguments.

I know of several couples who are waiting to adopt. You talk like adoption is this simple process.

Assuming the women you know had safe, legal abortions; there is no reason at all for them to not be able to have children in the future because of the abortion. Miscarriages are very common for all women. Statistics say about 25% of pregnancies end in miscarriage and they allow the number could in fact be higher since often early in a pregnancy a woman may not know she's pregnant. Termination is a safe procedure, it has less medical risks than carrying a child to term.

Termination is a safe procedure, says who? There are risks associated with abortion. Abortion could also increase the chance of a subsequent miscarriage.

Well, that's his fault for not mking sure the woman he was in a relationship with shared his opinion in children and child-bearing. I wouldn't have carried it, either. It's not always a simple matter of who is going to take care of it after it's born. It's a matter of whether or not you want to waste 40 weeks of your life by gestating a fetus.

GloomCookie get over yourself. Geez do you not show empathy to anyone? dlkuku husband was grieving the loss of his unborn child.

That is so sad.

There is no replacing a child. I know! A child isn't a cat. My God, your replies are heartless!

So? The woman took part in it and it happened. Running away from responsibility isn't dealing with an unplanned pregnancy. Why give up on life if there is a parent there wanting the child/fetus/embryo ect..

Why is the kid in utero not good enough?

Yes you don't, but quit attacking peoples opinions on this just because you don't want children.

I do understand what it is like to be pregnant and I understand what it is like to grieve for the loss of a child, I also know what it is like to have a life taken from you. I do not judge those who have had an abortion nor do I judge those who have chosen not to have children. Since the father helps make the baby, I think he should have rights. I'm thinking about what is best for the unborn.

Sacrificialclam, when a man and a woman got married they become one. The woman's body belongs to the husband and vice versa. Whether you believe in that or not, it doesn't matter because that is the truth. The word of God says so and that is why. If only we will adhere to this, this will be a much better place to live.

That's why in the US in 2000, 1/5 of single parents were single fathers accounting for more than 2 million. 201,000 single fathers raised three or more of their own children under 18. 196,000 single fathers were raising their own infants under age 1. Canada- 245,825 — The number of single dads in Canada, about 19% of the total 1.3 million one-parent families. Fathers are capable too. A Father's love is just as important as a mother's. My hats off to single dads. With that said, men should have a right!

The vacuum is used in the first 6 to 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Have you ever seen a picture of an 8 week old aborted fetus? By 7 weeks they already have toes, fingers, ears eyes and nose.

I have actually researched it and I'm not talking about the photo of the baby lying next to the quarter. I'm talking about the actual development of the baby and real photos of an aborted fetus. Hands and feet can be seen at 8 weeks.

How is he today?

Tom, thank you for your reply. Life is precious- choose it.

Not everyone believes the unborn life is worthless.

those may be your beliefs, you have the right to feel however you wish. But for those who don't agree, you have no right force those beliefs on us.