Do you have prove of citizenship in the USA?
By naty1941
@naty1941 (2336)
United States
May 13, 2007 3:00pm CST
FARMERS BRANCH, Texas - Voters in this Dallas suburb became the first in the nation Saturday to prohibit landlords from renting to most illegal immigrants. Landords have to verify that you are a citizen or legal immigrant before they can rent an apartment to you. In this suburb if the landlord doesn't comply he/she will be fined $500. If anyone ever asked me to prove citizenship to rent an apartment I would be in trouble as my passport has expired! What is your opinion as showing prove of citizenship to rent an apartment?
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11 responses
@hometyme (288)
• United States
20 Jun 07
If the Feds would actually do something about the illegal immigrant problem, then the bordering states would not need to.
I have no problem with immigrants, but let's make it fair. As a U.S. citizen, it will take me 62 years to realize medicare benefits - not 62 seconds!
The gov't can find these people. The IRS can find anyone they want to find. An examination of businesses' books can spot irregularities in cash flow (labor costs).
Irregularities do not benefit everyone. Immigrants may be abused by the forced low wages, while thier employers may be realizing huge profits made possible by the low wages. In the building business, for instance, who else would benefit besides the builders?
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@hometyme (288)
• United States
20 Jun 07
Granted, but I do believe more cooperation - not politics - would be a vast inprovement. Unfortunately, it seems that getting re-elected must be a main objective but it runs interference to service.
@hometyme (288)
• United States
20 Jun 07
The IRS can find discrepancies in labor costs which come from somewhere. If the under-the-table payroll did not exist, there would eventually be no underground payroll, no jobs of the sort, and no reason for the illegal immigrant to be here. That would force changes, resulting in the registration of the labor force. There still could be some supporting unregistered immigrants, but to get the full benefit, they could register - even through the IRS. I think it could be a win-win situation.
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@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
20 Jun 07
If the Feds were stricter with the employers some of the problems would be eliminated. However, the Feds, most of the time, do not do anything to the employers. You are correct the IRS can find people all the time but they are not the ones in charge of finding illegals. INS is swamped with work and apparently cannot do the job of finding illegals by themselves.
@winky73 (1404)
• United States
16 Jun 07
All you really need to proof your citizenship is your birth certificat.
I think it's a good thing.....but people would really have to know what they are looking at when they are being showed some papers.....because for about $500....many illegals can purchase a drivers license,passport and even a SSC card.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
28 Jun 07
Wow naty that was a quick journey. In response # 6 you were "we" in Puerto Rico and now you are "we" in California??
@bam001 (940)
• United States
28 May 07
A applaud the voters in Dallas. I only wish the rest of the country would follow suite. I think that illegal immigrants need to go back to their home countries. There is only so much room in our nation. If you want to live in the United States, I truly think you should come here through the proper channels --legally!
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
27 Jun 07
bam001 I am glad to see a very good response. Kudos to you!!
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
27 Jun 07
Yes I have proof of citizenship. I have my State Voter's Precinct Card*** and my Naturalization certificate copy. I'm sure you would be very happy to find a nice apartment but were to late to get it as it had been rented to an illegal!!!
*** I hope you are aware that you need to be a citizen to vote in the United States or should illegals be allowed to do that as well as all the other criminal acts they perform?
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
14 Jun 07
I would say that even an expired passport shows citizenship..since you could not get the passport in the 1st place if you were not a citizen.
I would think a social security card would work too..wouldn;t it?
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@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
14 Jun 07
A Social Security Card doesn't work in some places; however, the Birth Certificate is the best way to prove Citizenship if you were born in USA or one of it's territories. The Immigration Dept. has a card they give people that become citizens of USA. Only the Federal Gov't has the authority to demand prove of Citizenship.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
30 May 07
If someone does not have a passport I guess they could show their birth certificate as proof that they are a citizen.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
27 Jun 07
Aha!!! so naty you are from Puerto Rico that explains your bleeding heart attutude which is quite obvious in other discussions regarding illegal immigeants you have particiated in.
@funfreak2k2 (1734)
• India
13 May 07
i dont live in usa. but i think its a good move by the voters in dallas. verification of tenants is in implementation in New Delhi, capital of India. this was introduced due to the threat of cross-border terrorism from pakistan and pakistan occupied kashmir.
@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
14 May 07
Thank you for your response. The people in the area have implemented this ordinance (law) to make sure that illegal people do not rent in their community. However, if someone fights this ordinance they probably will win because the Federal Government is the one the is supposed to insure that people are legal in USA.
@bam001 (940)
• United States
28 May 07
A applaud the voters in Dallas. I only wish the rest of the country would follow suite. I think that illegal immigrants need to go back to their home countries. There is only so much room in our nation. If you want to live in the United States, I truly think you should come here through the proper channels --legally!
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
27 Jun 07
Yes I have proof of citizenship. I have my State Voter's Precinct Card*** and my Naturalization certificate copy. I'm sure you would be very happy to find a nice apartment but were to late to get it as it had been rented to an illegal!!!
*** I hope you are aware that you need to be a citizen to vote in the United States or should illegals be allowed to do that as well as all the other criminal acts they perform?
@Palace_Girl (416)
• Philippines
16 May 07
I think it is a good move but quite harsh.
In my appartment, we give reference character and give the address of our former landlord. The owner then checks our rental background and does reference check.
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@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
14 May 07
Thank you for your comment. Lets see what happens in that neighborhood when someone sues them for discrimination. You see I would be highly offended if someone asked me to prove citizenship to rent an apartment. They will use it as an excuse to discriminate against minority group members. I think the Federal Government is the only one that should be allowed to make those laws.
