Can you admit when your child misbehaves?
By KissThis
@KissThis (3003)
United States
May 16, 2007 8:46am CST
I have a brother who is constantly punishing my children when they do something against the rules. I doesn't bother me that he punishes my child when they are doing something wrong because I do want them to learn right from wrong. But my issue is he will punish one of my children for doing something that his son is right there doing as well. He doesn't do or say anything to his son. I believe that if your going to punish one child for breaking the rule then you should punish both children because they were doing it together. Am I right? Shouldn't you punish both children?
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16 responses
@natalie1981 (1995)
• Singapore
16 May 07
I think it's unfair that he's only picking at your child. Yes, he should punish both children since not doing so would make him look like he's favoring one child. Personally, when my nephew does something wrong, I don't punish him. I just relate what he did to my brother so he can do the punishing. For me, I don't think I would feel comfortable punishing someone elses' child.
@KissThis (3003)
• United States
16 May 07
In my family it is a common occurence that the adult who sees the child breaking the rules is the who punishes the child. It just so happenes that my boyfriend was standing there when this past incident occured. My boyfriend asked me why wasn't my brothers child punished for doing the same thing.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
16 May 07
Ooohh ppl like that drive me NUTS!! and actually my brother is like that with his daughter to the extreme...its actually quite sickening what he's like when it comes to his girl...she is PERFECT, can do no wrong, and when she does do something wrong he generally laughs about it and says somethign dumb like "oh relax its no big deal".....He's been that way with her all her life IN FACT this kid was SO spoiled...at the age of 4 she was still being spoon fed (except when I had her cause i refused to do it) and getting her bottom wiped for her etc etc..it was infuriating at times (I had her 3 days a week overnight)...Dont get me wrong I love my neice very very much but now that she's almost 14, his lack of parenting skills and how she's been raised REALLY shows.....
My brother would punish my kids but not her even if she was doing the same thing...BUT when she was in my care, if I busted the three of them doin something they shouldnt THEY ALL got in trouble (and my brother never crossed me on it either oddly enough)....
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@KissThis (3003)
• United States
16 May 07
Thats how it is between us. I can't stand the differences he makes. This past weekend he was upset because we went to a family reunion everyone was saying how good my children were but a couple of people commented how smart mouth his son was. He went into a tizzy about how they know nothing about my children and how great his son was.
My brother knows that if a child does something wrong infront of me I will punish that child. I don't care whos child it is, if they are disobeying the rules they get the same punishment as one of my own.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
16 May 07
yep same here and pity the parent that tries to cross me on it cause i WILL put them in their place just as fast as I will their kid!..
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@deedles88 (297)
• Australia
17 May 07
I totally agree with you! Whats good for the goose is good for the gander! I have an idea, when he punishes your child for something, and his is doing the same, point it out. Better yet, punish his child yourself!! My sister came over one day with her 3 kids, two are 7, one is 4 and I had my 3 week (at the time) daughter asleep. They were going nuts, and my sister wouldnt stop them. So I stepped in and did it, it caused a huge rift in our family.
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@KissThis (3003)
• United States
17 May 07
If I am around when it happens I do punish his son as well. There are just times when I haven't been there and my boyfriend has. My boyfriend won't punish my brothers children so he tells me about it when I get home. At that point its too late to punish the child in my eyes.
@lightningMD (5931)
• United States
16 May 07
Yes,both kids should be equally punished. I would tell your brother that unless he is going to treat the kids equally he has no right to punish your child. I would be firm about it before your kids begin to resent him and their cousin.
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@tinamwhite (3252)
• United States
16 May 07
YES, my friend.....you are absolutely correct about this....he is not doing his child a favor by turning a blind eye" to what his child is doing wrong...he is teaching his son that he holds "special" treatment.....
Yes, I expect my child to already know and follow the rules.....but if he is in a group and they are all doing something wrong...he does not get away with it...I do not think that is fair....showing a difference between children that are all partaking in the same activity sends them the wrong message, in my opinion...
My situation is alittle different since my 5 yr old son has 3 siblings that are grown with children of their own....his playmates are frequently his neices and nephews...and his siblings, of course, have the right to punish him within reasonable boundaries....
I think that I would try to discuss this with your brother...maybe, he is not aware that he is doing this...at least, I hope that is what is going on....
Children need to know their boundaries and that each of them is a valued part of the family structure...this teaches them that there are the same consequences for "wrong" behavior for all concerned.....that is the way the laws of our country are written and nobody should get special treatment...we all want our children to be able to function in society someday and following the rules is a part of life we all have to deal with!!
I would express my feelings to my brother....it will cause hard feelings if you continue to keep it bottled up inside.....
@KissThis (3003)
• United States
16 May 07
I think that the biggest problem is that I have a different set of rules for my children. I am stricter with my children then what my siblings are. I don't like for a 6 year old child to talk back to his parents. My brother thinks that it is cute when his son does this to his mom. I admit that its because of this kind of behavior I limit how much time I allow my children to spend with their cousins. I don't want them to learn these bad habits. Now if I was to allow my nephew to spend the night at my house he doesn't act this way because he knows I won't allow it.
I have tried talking to my brother about this. All he saids is he has his way of raising children and I have my way. I am not saying that my way is the best way.I just want it to be fair to all of the children involved.
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@tinamwhite (3252)
• United States
17 May 07
Well, as you know I have a son who just turned 5; I have a "tougher" set of rules for him as well...so I completely nderstand what you are saying here...
I think that your timing time with your brother who has vast differences of opinions with your child-raising techniques....is the best way to handle this too...
Your children will undoubted remember the "differences" that their uncle shows to his child....and not fondly either...but you have no control ove the image that he is creating in their minds....you, I am sure, will not tolerating them being disrespectful...but you can't change how they "feel"....
I expect now and always have...for my children to behave...no matter where we were and did not tolerate infractions of the rules...I do expect them to be kids...and I know they will do things that they are not supposed to....but if they do so knowing the rules...they also know the punishment....I am a big fan of "time outs" as well....and one that they especially hate is sitting beside my feet when we are at someone else's house...because they could not follow the rules...
Now that I am a grandmother I still feel the same way about their behaviors and if their parents do not want to make them behave...I have no problem with doing so...afterall...they are usually at MY house and these are the things that we OWN and I will not have it destroyed.....if they do not like that...they do not have to bring them here.....I know that sounds harsh but I think you know what I am saying!!
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@castleghost (1304)
• United States
16 May 07
I wouldn't tolerate the differences being made. If someone was treating their child different then mine I would have to speak up and say something. By excusing one childs behavior and not the other he is sending out mixed messages.
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@TheCatzMeow1 (579)
• United States
17 May 07
I agree with you to the fullest! It sounds like he's only teaching your children that he's a big meanie. I'd have to tell him that I'll do my own disciplining and he should do the same for his child. It's not fair that he's blind to his own kid's actions, but he sees everything your kids do. Besides, what kind of example is he setting for his child? Being a bully maybe? I hope you're able to talk to him about this. Otherwise you may end up having some built up tension between you.
@jessicamom24 (391)
• United States
17 May 07
yes its only fair that both children should get in trouble for what they were doing wrong its only fair but its wrong for your brother to be punishing your child to do it ewhen he should be more into his child for doing it
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@irfan_fatboy (192)
• India
17 May 07
well i am not a father until now but i wont accept any misbehaviour
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@sacmom (14192)
• United States
16 May 07
Let me get this straight. Your brother will punish YOUR children, but not his own child when HIS child is doing something bad??? OMG that would P!SS ME OFF!!! He SHOULD punish all of them, not just yours! But I'm assuming he must think his child is perfect, otherwise why else would he not punish his OWN son?I'd tell anyone that did this that they are being hypocritical or that they are playing favorites when it comes to things like this.
Yes, I can admit it when my children misbehave...even when they are being good and some compliments them, I'll say something like "Oh they're not always THIS good!!!" These people give me a strange look LOL, but I'm not one to pretend my kids are perfectly behaved all the time when they are not. My mom used to get complimented all the time when my sister and I were little on how well behaved we were. Of course we were well behaved, before we'd leave the house she'd always tell us to behave OR ELSE! My mom would just smile and say 'thank you'. Okay, so my mom only had to follow through with the warning once, and I happened to be the one to get smacked in the face. I'll admit that I did send her over the top the day she did this as she did warn me more than once to be quiet or else, but as I felt strongly about what I was arguing about with my sister I continued to argue my point. I probably did this because my sister would do the exact same thing, yet get away with it and not even get so much as a warning! And here I'm the baby of the family! LOL To this day I cannot remember what the argument was about. I did bring this warning thing up with my mom a few years ago and I let her know it scared the h#ll out of me whenever she'd give me this warning. She said she didn't mean to scare me, she just wanted us kids to behave. :P
@KissThis (3003)
• United States
17 May 07
My one brother does have the "perfect" child syndrome. Which I admit I try to blow off. I tell my children just because his parents allow him to do doesn't mean I will. I know what you mean about people complimenting on how well behaved the children are. Every time we go and see the Kentucky relatives I hear about how ell behaved the children are and how the just want to keep them. Thats one of the things that upset my brother. Everyone complimented my children and a couple told him how disrespectful his one son is. Boy, was he mad. He didn't think it was fair for them to judge his son that way.
@ZenDove (698)
• United States
17 May 07
I'm not a stern disciplinarian of little ones, by nature. But I do have parameters and I know that order is healthy for children. I confess to being one of those parents who were "blind" where there own children were concerned. I have one boy and my sister has 2 boys. Her little ones were rambunctious, scruffy, hyper little boys. Typical boy behaviour. But MY son could walk on water! He was polite at all times, he wore Buster Brown shoes which he never scuffed, he was intellgent, adorable and naturally well-mannered. I would have disciplined him but he did no wrong. I don't know how my sister tolerated me! Well, maybe she did because that is exactly how my son was - around adults. Around the other kids, he was a regular hooligan, a ringleader! He had the game figured out by the time he was 3! He had every adult hoodwinked except for my sister. She had a keener eye because her boys were more obvious about their hijinks. But no one believed her when she would try to tell us who the real trouble maker was - and the other kids would never give him up. One blessed day, my sister had me secretly watch out the window to see my son in his sailor suit and Buster Browns bullying a kid twice his size - oh, the language he used! My son learned to play poker at 7 and taught his friends to gamble! I was utterly charmed by him and he knew it. Thanks to my sister I caught on as much as I was able to and tried to mend my ways. I realized the dangers that arrogance and disregard for rules would cost him as an adult. I began to try and correct the impression that he was somehow untouchable. He is 22 now, a computer tech and musician but just as charming as ever. Please tell your brother that he is doing his son no great favor by making him feel as if he is above it all. It may be fun now to indulge his son but imagine how sickening that child will be as a teen and how useless he will be as an adult.
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@bettyrose20 (997)
• Philippines
17 May 07
it should be the case that you should punish those children that misbehave. thats what i do with mu child. i punish her if she misbehave. and i punish her and her playmate if they misbehave, the two of us. i dont tolerate the bad attitude of my child. i want her to grow disciplined.
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@Lovett (464)
• India
16 May 07
Hey, dats not right. u should treat all children equally. I mean , if my child would do a mistake(in future, as I have no childern yet), I would alaways treat children equally, otherwise our behaviour towards them , puts a question in their mind, as to y we did correct the other children, even though they were doing the same thing. N this might result in the child doubting our love for them. They would think that we love the other children more than them. your bro, was wrong. U should have told him that later though.
Nywayz, try speaking to your Bro. N take care,,,Happy Parenting!!!
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@yamahagirl (415)
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17 May 07
Yes u are right he should punish both kids not just yours to be honest with u he should not even be telling ur kid off they can learn right from wrong from u,he aint going to learn like that with ur brother telling him off all the time, my saying is whats good for one is good for the other.
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@camar_lyn (1028)
• Singapore
16 May 07
Well, i have no qualms about punishment when my children misbehaves. However, i do have second thoughts about punishing other children when they misbehave.
I believe that parents are suppose to be responsible for their children's upbringing. Parents should be the one dishing out the punishment instead of a 3rd party.
Since it is your brother punishing your child, you could have highlighted that fact to him. Have an open relationship for the good of the children so they don't play sides when they are grown up. And yes, i do agree both should be punished since they were doing it together. - Lyn
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