What are your thoughts on the pending immigration legislation?
By lisaneuc
@lisaneuc (56)
United States
2 responses
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
26 May 07
I am not in favor of open immigration. I am in favor of the kind of immigration such as was conducted for so many years at Ellis Island. It was controled. There were rules.
One of the great rules was that in order to stay in America, one had to learn English. I find Spanish ballots particularily offensive.
Here in Arkansas we have a similar situation as to what is going on with Mexico and the USA.
Here the problem is people from large urban northern cities fleeing the over crowding, crime, over restrictive laws, and corrupt political regimes. That people flee the northern cities to come here is of itself not a problem. The problem is that these people bring with them the habits and attitudes that made those cities they fled the way they are.
So it is with Mexico and the USA. People flee Mexico with good reason, but without proper assimilation into American culture, (like at least learning English) these unassimilated people are ignorantly going to turn this country into that which they fled. Does anyone want that?
So, what is the answer? I believe the unspoken part of the Golden Rule is the answer. What's that?
Well, the Golden Rule is to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.". The unspoken part is, "Sometimes it is necessary to do unto others as they have done unto you, in order to teach them a lesson.".
So, here is my solution to the immigration problem. Adopt the exact same immigration policy for every nation of the world as they have for our citizens. In other words, as the Mexican government or any other treats our citizens, so our government will treat their citizens.
Believe it or not, this will actually solve the problem.
@lisaneuc (56)
• United States
27 May 07
I agree with you that we should encourage immigrants to assimilate and learn the foundations of our culture, our system of government and our laws.
To institute a policy of "do unto others..." would, I think, be a disservice to all those people who are trying to flee tyrannical governments around the world. If someone values freedom enough to risk escaping from Cuba or North Korea, it would go against everything this country stands for to deny them entry because *their* government doesn't allow open access.
These are people who are more likely to treasure the opportunities our country provides than, perhaps, many of our own citizens. They will be our gain and Cuba or North Korea's loss.
Just my opinion....
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
28 May 07
Dog gone, you make a darn good point I had not considered. I thought I had this all solved, too.
How about we agree to accept almost anyone from certain tyranical countries as the people fleeing such countries are more like political refugees seeking asylum than they are immigrants?
Now, do we have the problem solved? :-)
@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
25 May 07
Indeed. But I don't believe the idea is to keep immigrants out but to make sure that they get here legally and we can know who is here. That is why I think the immigration reform bill is so important. It allows for more worker permits, requires good identification cards, and provides a way for those who have been here a long time a system for achieving citizenship legally with background checks, and other requirements including a fine for the time they have heen here illegally.
Actually, the farmers are in need of workers and they pay $7 to $10 and more per hour. But Americans won't do that hard field work at any price.
Personally, I think they should bus the able-bodied unemployed citizens to work the fields. But I supose that isn't practical. I think it is wrong to support able-bodied people financially if there is a way they could earn it themselves. That's a whole other discussion!
@lisaneuc (56)
• United States
27 May 07
I agree that it makes sense for us to know who is coming here. I do think the process should be much easier so that we can benefit from an influx of productive talent.
You noted: "I think it is wrong to support able-bodied people financially if there is a way they could earn it themselves. That's a whole other discussion!"
I totally agree with you on that.