Do your kids lie? How do you deal with it?
By toe_ster
@toe_ster (770)
United States
May 28, 2007 1:45pm CST
My six year old is starting to lie. He just now lied right to my face. His 1 year old brother was crying. He carried him to me and said his 4 year old brother threw something at the 1 year old, and that if he denies it , he is lying. So I called the 4 year old. He denied it. I asked the 1 year old. He doesn't speak clearly but he has a way of saying each brother differently. When i asked who did it he pointed to the 6 year old and said brother. (he calls the other one by his name). My six year old got embarassed and admitted it. I mad him apologize to both brothers and go sit in his room to reflect on his lying.When we finally talked about it, it just seems he doesn't get it. I explained in every way I could, that lying gets you nowhere. You are more than likely to be punished for lying than to just tell the truth. He said no matter which way he goes, he will get in trouble. I don't see it that way. Do all or most kids see it like that? I don't know how toget my point across about trust. If he lies to me about small dumb things how am I to know when he is telling the truth on impotant things? Any help?
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@crickethear (1417)
• United States
28 May 07
You need to nip it in the bud. My friend had this problem and this is what she did. it worked for her, it was hard for her to do, but worth it in the end. Number 1, catch her/him in their lies. 2. don't take away one thing you need to take away everything. 3. tell her/him liars don't deserve privileges. Take off his/her bedroom door, take away radio, ipod, TV, telephone privileges etc. In a few weeks they can go without lying, then start giving stuff back. Again this is harsh, but kids have so many diversions that taking away one at a time is barely noticeable to them. You have to get them where it hurts, and before it gets out of control. If they get away with it, then then will do it more and more. Again this worked for my friend, and she hasn't had any more problems since then. Best of luck in whatever decision you decide.
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@toe_ster (770)
• United States
28 May 07
I don't see anything wrong with this method. However I think it might almost be lost on my 6 year old. He shares a room with his brothers so the door thing won'thelp out with time outs for one of them. And he doesn't own anything to take away yet. BUt how do we know if they are lying or telling the truth? How do we know if they don't get more clever about it, because if the harshness of that big punishment? I do like the idea though. If it gets worse, I will robably resort to something along these lines. Thanks for responding.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
29 May 07
Well here is another suggestion that might work. Get three clear jars with lids. Put (if you are in the USA) - 50 cents in change in each. Each day that the kids go without telling a lie add a specific amount - say 10 cents, but if they are caught telling a lie then they have to pay you 10 cents and put 5 cents in each of the other kids jars. At the end of each month make a time to all sit together and count the money in each jar. Make them put 50 cents back in their jar and the rest is theirs to spend on something they want. It might be a little time consuming but if he sees that the other 2 have more to spend than him each month then he is sure to see that being honest pays benefits.
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@legbamel (179)
• United States
29 May 07
I feel your pain! My oldest is also six and he's been lying to us for a few months, now. He knows that he gets into much worse trouble for lying, and he knows we can tell, but he keeps doing it. I think in part he's testing his boundaries, which are much larger with his having started school.
One of the things that works well for us is to move up his bed time as a punishment. Then he doesn't get to do anything after dinner but bath, teeth, and bed. If his younger brother is still up (they share a room) it's especially bothersome. We've had the trust conversation, but it's the penalties that really get his attention. And we explain to him what the penalty would have been, had he just owned up to his mistake in the first place as well.
@toe_ster (770)
• United States
31 May 07
I think this could possibly work for us. He does share a room with his younger brother so it might have just the effect we need to sink in his head. At his stage in life everything is a competition. So being left out as a punishment might do the trick. Thank you so much.
@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
28 May 07
You need to find out what is important to your 6 year old, most likely it's the t.v., video games, the phone, internet etc. If he continues to lie, he loses privelages. I would take them all away (like crickethear above says) and once he begins to prove himself trustworthy, let him earn them back one by one. I know it is harsh, but like the above user said, you have to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. CHildren will lie from time to time, that is natural, but it should not be acceptable, and you need to know that you can trust that what he says is true. Good luck. Hope I helped
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@toe_ster (770)
• United States
28 May 07
Thats just the problem. We don't have video games, or cell phones. He doesn't use the computer and he is not into watching t.v. I usually have to force them to watch a t.v show or movie so i can get a quick break to do something. The only thing he asks to do is play outside, which we ground him from. Which is sad but it is the only thing. We don't have material posessions. You did help/ It gives me lots more to expand and yhink on than i would have had alone. So thank you
@PackratsHouse (238)
• United States
29 May 07
When my kids were young and lied to me I did the big discussion on trust. To illustrate the point the next time they told me something I asked them if they were sure because they have lied before. After they would explain that it was the truth I explained the trust thing and they understood.
@Gorgeous24 (1091)
• United States
29 May 07
Hello toe_ster, I have a 4yr old daughter and she just started to lie to me these past couple months about little things but ima tell you what I do so she knows not to lie anymore. Okay when I know shes lying I will ask her if shes telling me the truth and when she says yes, I tell her I can see a red dot on her forehead that only mommies can see to tell if there child is lying..so she takes her hand and tries to cover the dot but I tell her I can still see it so she confesses to whatever she was lying about. I always tell her I know when she is lying because I can the little red dot LOL Its been working really good so far
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@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
31 May 07
Mine is three now, and sometimes I think she might be lying to me about some things. But, her language skills aren't really developed enough to tell elaborate lies. So, her lies are cute at this point. Like I'll ask her if has picked up the cat, and of course, she knows better not to, so she'll say, "No!".
But, other than that, she's not in that stage yet.
I have tried the toy take away game with her, and it ends badly. She cries until I give her toys back. So, I did that once and felt like a total monster for depriving the poor baby of her cabbage patch doll.
Come on, that's like taking away her baby, though she's only three. I can only imagine how I would feel.
I think someone else mentioned this before. But, the kids may be lying to avoid punishment. It's funny how kids think. They can be right in front of you and know that you saw them do the deed. And, still lie about it.
When I was a kid, I knew better than to lie. But, of course, I knew that if I didn't I'd get spanked. Not nice. I'm not into spanking my child. It doesn't solve the problem. And, I don't think it's right.
As far as trust issues go. I think your children are a little too young to understand the concept of truth and trust. If they don't tell you the truth, just let them know why it's important. And, that you're disappointed in them for lying.
I tried this with my daughter and it worked. She's only three. I'm always telling her that it's important that she tell me the truth so I can handle the situation. And, then I let her know that there are no consequences if she has done something wrong. But, that she needs to tell me what she's done.
This gets her to be more truthful. Not sure why it works. She trusts me, I guess, to handle anything.
Often though, she doesn't bother covering things up or lying and is more than happy to take me to the scene of the deed and then proudly point at her cabbage patch doll in the toilet. If I don't make a big deal of it, she just goes on her way.
I love kid honesty! Very convenient. They tell the best truth that works for them. If there are no really bad consequences or parental anger involved in telling Mommy the truth, then they're more likely to be completely honest and open. Otherwise they feel they have something to hide. Would you want to expose yourself to serious consequences. I know I wouldn't. If I knew Mommy might be mad, I'd hide the truth too.
Lots of kids do. I'm not saying that you ever get mad at your kids. Just saying, that if they think you're going to get mad they might lie.
I was a kid once too. I remember what that was like.
@rapolu_cs (1184)
• India
29 May 07
My son is very small and i think every kid will pratice it after joining school and then it is our responsibility to make them know about the truth and lies through stories or tales or through the facts that you getnotice in daily life.