Another what if question..
By xParanoiax
@xParanoiax (6987)
United States
June 1, 2007 6:59am CST
For those of you living in the U.S., if things come down to it..and everything goes to hell. What would you do? Conform or rebel?
If any of you've been keeping up with the happenings, law-wise, socially, our taxes, the terrorist stuff..and politics in general..I know some of you have been noticing things and come to a near same possible future for our country. And it isn't pretty.
If you're not up to date, I reccomend reading these links and then doing your own research:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/25/politics/main1236272.shtml
http://www.realnightmare.org/
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1099836.aspx
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1115839.aspx
(I hope those folks who posted those discussions don't mind me linking them).
But this is REAL serious stuff, folks. This could get real ugly in such a short time. It's sneaky, but it's there. If no one can prevent it, and I don't believe it's too late yet..what will you do? How do you think your life will change?
I'm really sorry about my tendency to talk about serious things, but I can't seem to ignore the serious things lol. And I can't help but hate this kind of stuff..it disturbs me. And I never did take kindly to someone trying to influence my life, and my choices. Boxing me in.
How do you guys feel about it?
People outside the states, what do you think? What if people start trying to escape the U.S. to your country, illegally AND legally. Would you dislike them, or want to help them? Even if in doing so you could get yourself in trouble?
This is just what's on my mind today guys..just wondering what your thoughts all are.
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@peaceful (3294)
• United States
1 Jun 07
This is an excellent question and I can't wait to see what the responses will be! :)
As for me... there is a big, big World out there, and I want to see more of it...
It doesn't take the fact that things aren't going so well lately, to make me want to leave, I have been planning to go since my retirement 7 years ago, and now I'm in business for myself, a business that can be attended to from anywhere in the World...
My own personal faith has always made me different, perhaps even a rebel, of sorts, but many have benefitted from my Presence, all the same...
After a long 54 years, I think that it's time for some serious Global, "Me Time!" :)
May Blessings Abound for you and yours! :)
Perhaps you'd like to to see the going's on at top political sites:
http://toppoliticalsites.org/
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
1 Jun 07
I think I'm gonna have my hands full researching all that's been going on, lol.
I'm glad for you peaceful :) and I hope you flourish and live happily wherever you are.
Heh, I've always gone my own way..which I suppose HAS in some people's eyes..made me a rebel of sorts. Which, thinking about it..I'm not sure I'll be able to not make waves should things go the way we think they're going lol. Which I guess, should make things interesting in the least, right? And I always said..I'd rather things at least be interesting or else it's not worth the effort.
Good luck, hun wherever you go.
*is looking forward to other folks' responses too*
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@mizrae (587)
• United States
6 Jun 07
Quite frankly, I don't think anybody really knows what you are talking about and the impression I get is that they really don't care UNTIL it happens to them. I have been following this for awhile myself and quite frankly it scares me. If I recall correctly this was passed rather sneakily thru Congress. But it's not just going to be an I.D. but eventually a way to buy things as well. I have also heard that this will also be a way to access your medical information as well. Or am I thinking of the RFID tag/chip embedded in our bodies? Either/or these items can easily be hacked and is not really a way to protect us but control us.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
6 Jun 07
I didn't expect ALOT of people to know..but yeah..I didn't think posting this discussion could hurt anything. And if people did stumble upon it, didn't know anything about it..happened to get curious..all the better, you know?
And yeah..they probably won't care until it happens to them, IF they care even then.
You're also corrct that they passed it very sneakily, they attached it as a rider on a bill for helping our soldiers and helping with hurricane relief..it basically had nothing to do with the bill it was attached to, and they presented it only a little bit before they were supposed to read it and decide it was to be passed or not.
And here we are..
I've read and learned a bit since I posted this..and I came to the same conclusion you did. I think it will be attached to buying things, later down the line. Because they'll claim that it'll be 'the only secure way to buy and sell'..and that regular cash will be yet another 'flaw in their security'. I also don't doubt that they'll add medical information along with Goddess knows what else later down the line too..for convenience.
I read somewhere that the RFID chips were the planned step two of Real ID. After Real ID became accepted and common..they'd move into the chips.
They ARE easily hacked too..there was a hacker in europe who hacked one in under twenty minutes..it is really a way to control us as a people. And it is a world-wide phenomena now..and it disturbs me a bit too. It's so hard for me not to get paranoid..and I'm finding myself suspicious of alot of things I normally wouldn't be..but the more I learn..not only about Real ID, but alot of the other things I've learned about from the Government recently..or governments I should say..the more I worry about not only me, but my family, friends..strangers..and people I don't even know who are beginning or have known about the same stuff I now know and am learning about.
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@Jaytech (2251)
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1 Jun 07
I've been studying this stuff for months, even though I'm in the UK similar stuff is going on, & it all points back to one thing..... New World Order. The ID card debate is going on here also, & right across Europe, also Australia. Which implies things go a lot deeper than just in the States.
I have good links, they take a lot of reading & viewing but well worth it, the first link is to a Christian Preacher called Barry Smith, who has been warning about all this stuff since the 1980's, he has written many books on the subjects & many of his predictions that have come to being are astounding. Please take the time to watch this video & the other parts, the information is mind blowing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6gmjGqNKEo
Even if you're not a Christian, this stuff relates to you, as it explains in detail all about The New world Order, who's behind it & what will happen.
http://www.barrysmith.org.nz/videos/index.phtml?
He has many books & DVD's out which can be found here, most can now be viewed on youtube & his books.
& finally, there's a web page which is one of his books broken down, it covers everything on the dvd I have linked to youtube but sometimes it's easier reading this stuff & studying it....
http://www.caterpillar.org.uk/warning/disclaimer.htm
I've read this website from front to back, the details & real life events that you can relate to in it are mind blowing, please pass it on & share it with those that care :)
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
1 Jun 07
I'm not christian, but I have been studying prohecy of many different faiths and cultures for awhile. As it happens, there's been quite a few specific to our current time..or else with way too many ironic coincidences (and in my experience, there are no such things AS coincidences lol).
Some of the profecies I don't agree with..and I've heard many voices from the christian front. I do believe that some person will come around and say, "I want to rule the world and everyone should do what -I- say"..I mean, it's inevitable..truly. Whether he's a supernatural man or not, we'll see..if he is, all the better..at least then I'll have a better chance at understanding him.
I don't think our country's symbolism is a sign for instance. Though I always did believe that..they'd try something like Real ID..and yeah, the next step'll be chipping or tattooing. If it didn't infringe our freedom, I wouldn't so much mind if it was tattooing..
Nearly all the legends, profecies..say that there will be a set of people who's important..or simply one person, who'll save everyone. Since..yeah, apparently it's happening worldwide. Though there are also a good number of prophecies that say we'll all be completely wiped out too..
The Hopi..they called them the rainbow warriors, there's the New Age people who believe the Indigo children will save us.
The Incans said that shamans of a different kind would come from the west to save our planet for the people..and bring back the light to the darkness.
The cherokee, much like the christians tell of the Antichrist..described a monster with terrible power rising to its strength around 2004..the year right before the Real ID thing came about. They said that..some people would follow the monster, only to realize in the end that they followed it to their own destruction.
There's a great many consistancies..and I intend to chroniclize all my findings on a website..and in a proper journal. I mean..we need something to have ALL the information..even if we all believe different details of it. Because..if one looks at it right, they're all just fractured pieces of one story. And I think now that this is all escalading to its high point..that REALLY needs to be done.
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@Jaytech (2251)
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1 Jun 07
I agree there are lots of inconstancies, a lot of the reason for that is the disinformation being put about. But the reality is, you can see & feel that all is not well & right with democracy & a lot of what Barry Smith has to say is happening. I posted the links more so for the information regarding Free Masonry as they are the people behind a lot of what's going on.
Ironically, the pyramid on the $1 bill which is linked to everything bears a very strong resemblance to the Social Pyramid taken from George Orwells 1984
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1984_Social_Classes_alt.svg
@shestalou (293)
• Canada
7 Jun 07
I have been reading for quite awhile on these subjects and they are very scary but I think with the internet being so popular now more people are being informed and educated, my hope is to stop tyranny before it happens but if not we would have to fight or become the USSR as the communist country.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
8 Jun 07
and Goddess help us when and if it gets to that point.
Outsmarting one's own government? Definitely not the easiest of tasks.
Thanks for responding.