American Baptists, whats going on?
By ESKARENA1
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
June 5, 2007 4:04am CST
I have just seen a rather disturbing t.v programme which gave three Americans chance to spit hatred, bile and poison into my living room. First they said 9/11 was great, then that the recent high school massacre was a start but should have been 33,000 dead. These sick individuals then call for America to be punished for their immorality. Soldiers who die in Iraq should not be grieved over but atacked. A five year old child was singing god hates the world. Shou8ld these people be arrested for spreading hatred, im sure they would hav e been if they had been moslims. A five year old child was carrying a sign saying god hates f^gs? well i know smoking is injurious to health, but didnt realise god hates it.
Should such people really be at liberty? come on Americans, shouldnt you be dealing with your fundeMENTALISTS?
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
5 Jun 07
I'm guessing you're talking about the Westboro Baptist church, a cult like following that believe themselves to be messengers, and that America's tolerance of gays is the reason bad stuff happens. Most Americans don't take them seriously, and for a good reason.
They're morons - silly, hateful morons, and should be treated as such. I've found it's easier to ignore them, or think of them as that annoying little piece of gum on the bottom of my shoe. American's are becoming progessively tolerant, so eventually their intolerant mindset will be killed off - or another unlikely scenario is they'll mess up and find themselves in the same mess as the Branch Davidians. Or take a bullet to the head, pick your choice.
Unfortunately, there's nothing America can do. They have the freedom of speech. We can only hope they'll cross the line, one day, and give us adequate reason to arrest them.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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5 Jun 07
yup thats the cult ive seen today, such ugly filth i normally expect from murderers, not people who profess to be religion. We have a law against spreading religious hatred, muslim preachers have been arested for it here, was just wondering if you have the same and wouldnt their actions come under it?
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@brian_s (570)
• United States
5 Jun 07
Yes, that is sick.
No, they should not get into any trouble.
The same freedom of expression that allows them to say what they did is the same freedom that allows me to say what I want. Even if I hate what another is saying, I will fight for their right to say it, just as I will fight for my right to say that they are wrong. The government has no right to dictate people's morality, nor should it.
If I advocate the silencing of what I perceive as stupid, harmful viewpoints, than I am nothing but a hypocrite if I complain when others try to silence my opinion. The opinions must be silenced gradually by knowledge and understanding, rather than by force.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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5 Jun 07
but can you educate pork? i dont honestly feel these peoplec will ever shut up because they are not governed by reason
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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5 Jun 07
freedom of speach is great as long as it is speach about freedom, when it comes to being opressive the great dilema raises its head. I dont mind them being allowed to spit their bile and poison, but why are they given the oxygen of publicity?
@brian_s (570)
• United States
5 Jun 07
Even if that is true, you have to ask the question, what would happen if you lived under a government that would make your view illegal? I'm sure you would not like that.
It should be pressure by other people within the society that puts the pressure on the people that have irrational views. It should not be a legal pressure coming through the government. Governments that do such things are only oppressive, and actually end up making things worse (since there is less originality and creativity among it's people to solve social problems by themselves).
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
5 Jun 07
Wow what program was you watching? And how do People know what God hates
I really wish they would get it into their Brain washed heads that it is the God they say hates everything is the one who has created People how they are and what goes on in this world
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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5 Jun 07
hi gabs
it was one of those morning talk shows they had three grinning women, grinning the grin of the mad. They were saying that proof of god's disgust with society is aids, school shootings, Iraq and children dying. When she was asked what would happen if one of her children was gay she said they would creep away in the night and she would never see them again. I do wonder why such people are allowed out
blessed be
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
6 Jun 07
What kind of program were you watching??? Was it an Americam program? Which network?
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
6 Jun 07
Thank you. I do not get TV programs from the UK. Perhaps it will come on American TV.
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@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
5 Jun 07
I saw an interview with one of their leaders a few weeks back, they are quite the psycho Brady Bunch. Most belong to one family and there are very few of them but they do make a lot of noise and news unfortunately. I have literally never heard such hateful language spewed by people claiming to religious.... until I came to myLot.... ROFL!
It'll probably end badly for them I'm afraid. They're going to tick someone off one of these days who is just as twisted as they are and it'll get real ugly. I'm not a vengeful or hateful person but I don't think I'll shed any tears if that happens.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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5 Jun 07
i certainly dont want their views spewing in to my living room as i eat my breakfast, what a terrible representative of America
blessed be
@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
5 Jun 07
Well, I would hardly consider 36 people out of 300 million a representational group of any nationality! Just another tiny group of fruitcakes to add to the rest of the world's fruitcakes. Every country has them not just America.
@dlkuku (1935)
• United States
5 Jun 07
I'm a Baptist and I am ashamed that someone could be so hateful. I am afraid that it's not limited to one denomination, I have seen a lot of hate talk go on from people from all walks of life.
Our God is not a God of hate, and what these people are preaching (if you can call it that) is complete and utterly wrong.
These people shouldn't even call themselves Baptists, and I certainly wouldn't consider them true Christians.
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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5 Jun 07
nor would i my friend, but it is indicative of the way religion is used by those who hold such views
@6in12years (305)
• United States
6 Jun 07
They aren't affiliated with any Baptist organization. They just use the name.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
5 Jun 07
America should be like many parts Japan, outlaw religion and religious fundementalism. I cannot stand religion in this country, people go overboard with it. It has led to nothing but trouble. I remember back in high school, people who were not religious were shunned, people who were religious were part of groups. It was a public high school, and things like this were going on. People wanted prayer and they wanted to outlaw homosexuality. I thought it was madness.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 07
Ah, my dear...don't you know that here in America we have freedom of speech and freedom of religion and to persecute anyone for speaking their minds or practicing their religion would be against our Constitutional rights? Which explains why we have to endure and put up with so much crap here
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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5 Jun 07
of course there is non, but shouldnt you be sorting your own extremists out before starting on those in other countries, these women are scary
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 07
I sometimes wonder if American "freedoms" are so great, which is why so many get away with so much crap here..yet on the other flip of the coin..if we didn't have say the freedom of religion then I think we'd be seeing witch burnings again...so what's the answer??
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@6in12years (305)
• United States
6 Jun 07
I know who it was. It was Fred Phelps and his "church" Please believe that he and his cult, most of whom are his own relatives, are not vaguely representative of American Christianity. or Christianity. And definitely not Christ.
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@yemberzal (301)
• India
5 Jun 07
I respect your concern . Same time I hope you will see whether the U S state policy is based on truth and reality or they demand GOD,S WRATH UPON THE PEOPLE, It is proverb AS SHALL YOU SOW ,SO SHALL YOU REAP.The state policy of U S is killing innocent on pretext or other. They sa9id Iraq has amassed great deal of chemical armaments.Then they said al qaeda is there. But it was not so . Now huge number of people are killed every day . Definitely God will punish who are responsible for blood shed .HE WILL NOT SPARE THE CULPRITS