my daughter was passed to the second grade not knowing how to read
By angruberts
@angruberts (29)
United States
June 14, 2007 3:38pm CST
my youngest daughter was passed to the second grade this year not knowing how to read and she can't write sentences without some one standing over her telling her how to spell each word. the school said she is to old to be put back in the first grade. She is a very smart child and if we read a story together she can't recite the story word for word without looking at the book or paper but to take those word out of that story or to mix the story up she is lost. the poor thing gets upset and says she feels stupid because she can't get it it breaks my heart to think the schools think that just because i child has a late birthday that they can't hold the kids back that are not ready for the next grade. the want to put her in specail education. now don't get me wrong i have nothing against specail education classes actualy i am in the process of getting m degree in early education and plan on furthering my education in specail education but what she needs if for them to take the time and try to help her instead of putting her in so to speak in the back of the classroom and forget about her. iwhen i tried to talk to the school they were always said it is part of the no child gets left behind program
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@6in12years (305)
• United States
14 Jun 07
Has she been evaluated for dyslexia or another learning disability? They are common in kids of normal and above average intelligence, and can make reading really difficult. If she is dyslexic, another year in first grade isn't going to help her. She will need some special accomodations and will be taught techniques to cope with her dyslexia. That can be done even if she moves on to second grade. The earlier the problem is discovered, the easier it is for the child to progress academically. Many brilliant people are dyslexic. It's easy, though, for dyslexic kids who don't get the help they need to give up on school and feel "dumb".
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@GardenGerty (160998)
• United States
15 Jun 07
This is a good answer. Find out what the problem is. The fact that you daughter feels dumb probably gives her some anxiety about school, which will accentuate the problems she has. She may have a specific type of learning disability and need specific kinds of help. Unless she is evaluated, and labelled, the help will not be available. If a child is diagnosed, and given help as young as your child is, it is not unusual for them to exit the special education program in their teens, having learned how to learn in their own special way. The best thing that I did with my great neice when she came to live with me in first grade was to read with her, and have her read 20 minutes per evening. The school provided progressive books, but I am sure you are smart enough to find books that move from very easy to more difficult. She moved from not being able to read at kindergarten level, to reading at the second or third step of second grade level. No matter how many computer games you use, or electronic gadgets, there is nothing that is as supportive as that human contact.
@mikeyr6000le (2123)
• United States
14 Jun 07
I know what you mean about the no child left behind police. It isn't helping anyone. I know people who can read very well and stuff like that but when it comes to reading out loud it almost puts me to sleep to hear them. My opinion is if she needs to be held back then do that. If she needs extra help then maybe putting her in a special needs class would help her for a while. She could just be a late bloomer.
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@lvhughes (545)
• United States
16 Jun 07
as you know i am dislexuce and we both know the baby is not. Sis make the school do what you want them to do. dont be like mom and let them do what they want. make them test her for eveything under the sun you can think of and if you have to make some stuff up to test her for. you know her best and can judge best. fight long and hard. if we lived closer id be the next one in line behind you at school to fight for her.
and keep teaching her it may or may not help but its always worth the fight.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
16 Jun 07
Social promotion looks good for the school. Does nothing for the children.
It is one of the reasons I pulled my kids and began homeschooling. You know what I found sad was that my kids had no clue how to learn unless they were fed the information by a teacher.
You know I remember my daughter asking her teacher for help and being told she couldn't get help cause I hadn't sent a note!!
The public schools can be so bad; I know a girl that graduated high school not being able to read a clock!!
I'm sorry your child is being ignored. I hope you are able to get the help she needs.
Good luck.
@dfollin (25387)
• United States
16 Jun 07
Amen! My older kids,boy's now adults went to public school.And they were basically ignored,labled (when the oldest one did not have ADHD,like that said).My youngest son has partial dislexia,inherited from his father.When I got pregnant with my daughter I told my husband that no way was this child going to public school.We could not afford to put her in christian school and my oldest son was in christian school he had problems.Therefore I chose to homeschool her.She attended preschool part time when there was no kids in our neighborhood that spoke english for her to play with.I started homeschooling her for pre-K and she is going into 5th grade in Septmeber and she says she want's to continue.I know what my daughter is learning,who she is talking to.I know what she is eating.If she is having problem in a specific area,then I know it.Iam not depending on someone from the school to keep an eye on it and inform me and make sure she is receiving help.
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@wachit14 (3595)
• United States
14 Jun 07
No one can put your child in a special education class without her being fully tested first. She should have a separate test just for reading as she may only need to be pulled out for a reading class. The other testing will show if she has any kind of processing disorder. If that's the case then she would be pulled out of her classroom for one one one time with a resource room teacher. I have a daughter who is classified and she receives these services as well as testing modifications. She is in high school now and she is reading on grade level and will graduate with her friends. My suggestion to you would be to contact the head of the special education department in your school district and further discuss this with them. Good luck!
@bestgirl2008 (183)
• Germany
17 Jun 07
have u guys tested her learning disablelities ..i think she must have dyslexia.. i think they should not let them pass if they don't know how to red..i hope you find what is the problem
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
15 Jun 07
Honestly you should have the school test her. She may have a learing disability and may need to be in special classes to help her learn. I recently found out my daughter who is in kindergarten has a learning disibility and they are passing her to 1st grade and putting her in special classes to help her learn.
@volschenkh (1043)
• South Africa
15 Jun 07
My advice to you is not to leave everything that can be done in the hands of the school and teachers. The teaching system worldwide is over-burdened and their throughput rates determine how much state funding they will receive. Many countries are following the outcomes based education model, and the biggest criticism against these educational models is that they don't teach the basic writing, reading and mathematical skills like years ago.
If I were you, I would help my child by exercising and practicing reading and writing skills at home. You will find many wonderful resources at your local library and bookshops. Make the effort, if your child’s needs are not met at school.
Don’t just leave it up to the school system to educate your child, take responsibility and make sure your child gets the best education at home. You will be surprised how many parents have done this to ensure their children are developing these skills to the best of their abilities.
Please don’t see this as a personal attack; I just feel that if it was my child I would invest my own time and resources to get them on track. You really cannot trust the schools of today to do it for your child…its unfair I know, because we pay exorbitant school fees etc, but is the reality of schools systems today.
@dfollin (25387)
• United States
15 Jun 07
What I would like to add,is that I agree that there is nothing wrong with special education.But,both my son's went to public school and they are ready to label kids at the drop of a hat,because alot of teachers these day's are too lazy to work with them.It's easier to label them and send them to classes where they are supposed to get individualized help and that doesn't always happen.No child gets left behind program means to,as you said,not put in the back row and forgot,not to promote them when they are not ready.
@dfollin (25387)
• United States
15 Jun 07
One of the main reason's why I homeschool my daughter is because the public school's don't seem to know what their doing.When Iam homeschooling my daughter at least I know what she is learning or not and it's my choice to pass her.You might want to try homeschooling her.
@samtaylorskykierajen (7977)
• Canada
15 Jun 07
I know exactly how you feel , my son is going into grade seven and he can't read or write either . When he was younger they told me they didn't want to hold him back because they were worried about his self esteem and that was the reason they wanted to keep pushing him ahead as he is a very shy student . Now he is going into grade seven and all his work is suffering because of his inability to read or write . I spent a lot of time with his teacher this year trying to have him placed in a special program because this is affecting his self esteem . Had they held him back when I first started noticing problems he would not be so far behind now . He is only on a grade three reading level and a grade two reading leve.
@totty1969 (1468)
• United States
15 Jun 07
Welcome to my world, my daughter graduated from high school last year, she has a reading level of 5th grade. The teachers back in grade school told my wife and I that they weren't going to hold her back, it is discouraging to students when they get held back. We fought it throughout her school years, til last year when she graduated. She was put in special education classes for reading spelling math social studies, pretty much everything. Now she is going to Trade School, summer school to bring her levels up. I don't believe in letting the child pass along. I think that the schools forgot the reason why the children are there. It's like the schools want funding and don't care about the student. Good luck with this matter!
Peace! Totty
@nejnej (148)
• United States
15 Jun 07
now that's just sad to hear. that school's not a very effective proctor for education. report it to the Department of Education.
@margieanneart (26423)
• United States
14 Jun 07
The schools sounds horrible. I am so sorry to hear this. But, she is young enough to nip this in the bud. I would suggest that you try a special school, or get a tutor, or try teaching her yourself. If for some reason, she cannot grasp it. Then perhaps she will need further testing to find out so she can be helped. Good luck sugar.
@hardworkingmom (1130)
• United States
14 Jun 07
I feel that ne crap "No Child Left Behind", is because these teachers now a days don't want to to their jobs and take the time out to teach the students like they should be or better yet inform the parents and together they should be able to find a solution.(But No thats to much like right).
Yes angruberts I agree with the everyone on seeing about getting her test for delexia. Also try to have her read 1 book a day starting out with simple books for level K-1. The reason I say this is because I have a son(my middle child) who I beleive have delexia and the only reason why hes not tested as of yet is because the school have to submit a form to me and then have to give it to the doctor. but he's been promoted to the 3rd grade in which I think he's not ready mentally nor physically. But I have him reading a book a day and he have to tell me about it in a form os a worksheet that I generated.
There simple question(s)(I feel you should start your daughter with like 1-3 questions and see how to do with them and then gradually increase the questions.
Ex. Who is the author?, What is the title of the book?, Name me 1 or 2 people(person) in the story., If the story have something to do with learning how to make words ask her something like Did they spell CAT? Can you spell CAT for me? things like that. I'm not starting to tell you how to teach your daughter but I don't care for the new rules either and I try to have my own children 2 steps ahead of the system.
PS I have a disable sister that is on a 4th grade levelat the age of 25. And I'm still showing her her to count money and things like that. My oldest is 13 he's a straight A student & my youngest is 4. But if you'll like I would be more then happy assist you as much as I can. From 1 parent to another
@syain1972 (1011)
• Singapore
15 Jun 07
I think the school should have concentrated on giving extra classes for weaker students. In the school where my son is attending, students who are weak in the maths or English, they have extra classes for them after school. It seems that most of those students are able to integrate with the rest with those extra classes.. Not letting the child be left behind is one thing, but getting the child to understand and cope is another.... I think schools should make that extra effort to help weaker students than just put them in special education...
@navtech (1773)
• India
15 Jun 07
Hi, angruberts, do you know we are four brothers. All the brothers could not read or write upto 3 grades in elementary school. When my father found when my 2nd brother could not read or write my own mother tongue he met the School Master and asked him how he got promotion to 3rd class when he could not write to read at the 3rd class. The Head Master said, you never asked this question before when you first son got promotion to 3rd class without knowing how to read and write. Now you are asking me. We knew all your sons would start learning from 3rd class only. It was our experience. Therefore do not worry. We are all brothers, except one, having high degrees and holding good positions in various reputed companies. Accept the decision of the School. They understand your daughter better than anybody because she is gifted child.
@tdbrower1969 (1242)
• United States
15 Jun 07
I have a cousin that has a little girl that fell behind in school because of some family problems. She is now having to attend summer school, and catch up on three reading levels before she is passed to second grade. Summer school is only a month long, and I don't see how she can catch up. When the mother left and the dad got custody and she started falling behind, something should have been done. I would try to see if the school would work with you more, maybe supply a high school tutor for your daughter or something, or at least test her. I wish you the best, good luck! Maybe she truly does not need special education, just some different learning techniques or something.