Can anyone help me find a way to get sleepy?
By pamthegypsy
@pamthegypsy (136)
United States
June 17, 2007 12:23am CST
I have tried EVERYTHING that I can think of...warm bath, herbal teas, sleep aids, prescription meds.... and I cannot seem to get to sleep before 6am!!! Then I sleep til like 2 or 3pm and the day is shot.
I have checked my neck for vampire bites..nothing there, besides I don't crave blood. Warm milk, cold milk, ice cream sure those things USED to put me right to sleep, but no more... is it menopause doing this to me? Please help me someone!
Maybe I need a bolster....
Holler back!
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21 responses
@senthil2k (1500)
• India
17 Jun 07
You know, the best way to get the proper sleep is that, WORK HARD THE WHOLE DAY. Thats all. If you have worked hard the whole day, Im sure that you will be tired by the end of the day and you WILL get a sound sleep that night. I have found by experience and it has worked for me. Just try this out, if you have not done this so far.
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@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
I wish... I have done physically extreme work all my life. Went into weight training in the 70"s when girls didn't do such things, then was a dancer for 9 years, had 2 babies, once they were in school, and by then I was a single mom, I drove a delivery truck, a 30' reefer full of cases of 30 doz. eggs. Made avrg 20 stops per day in cities on the east coast, dragged the stuff in with a hand truck.
Then, to get off the road, I started driving fork lift, ended up throwing 50 lb bags 6 days a week, 8-12 hours a day..
I always believed that if you never slow down you never grow old! And it may be so that, if I had not built the muscle, I would be worse off. So you see, I really wish I could work even half as hard as I used to.
Today my mother once again tried to tell me that she worked her butt off...um no, she SAT her butt off in an office! And driving to work she just probably got in some poor truck drivers way like the rest at rush hour. I hope I never get as bad as she is needing a walker just to get around the house. And although it won't help me now, I think you have made the best suggestion! Thank You!!!
@kyutstudph (1263)
• Philippines
12 Jul 07
I think you are suffering from Psychophysiological Insomnia, Difficulty Initiating and Maintaining Sleep (DIMS).
The term psychophysiological describes the connection between the body (physiological) and the mind (psychological). People with psychophysiological insomnia have difficulty sleeping because they react to stress or physical illness with increased physiological arousal. This usually happens when a person does not resolve the stress-inducing factor in his or her life. Psychophysiological insomnia is caused by somatized tension, or stress that is expressed in bodily dysfunction, and learned associations that prevent sleep. Consequently, sleep, the one environment that soothes and rebuilds the body, is undermined by stress and anxiety. Eventually the activities and the environment associated with sleep—brushing one's teeth, turning off the light, lying still in bed—displace the original stress factor and lead to insomnia. Sleep onset insomnia or sleep maintenance insomnia may last years. People who associate anxiety with their conventional sleep environment typically find it easier to sleep in unfamiliar environments, such as a hotel room, a friend's house, or the couch, where sleep-preventive associations are absent.
@pendragon (3349)
• United States
17 Jun 07
I would say reading at bedtime,or get lots of excercise during the day so your body is actualy tired, and don't drink any caffeine in anything at all, that made me not sleep for years,lol.Maybe use reverse psychology, stay up and tell yourself you Can't go to bed.Who knows, might be worth a shot!
@Lynnmarie (41)
• United States
18 Jun 07
Uh oh, I tried the reverse psychology last night and ended up staying up all night and into 11:00 AM the next day! Oops! It was nice not worrying about trying to make myself sleep, though, and I had fun fiddling around on the computer instead of lying in bed worrying about when I would finally get tired.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Television! Watch tv at night, lay down on the couch or bed, whatever is near your tv. While you are watching alwayds keep your eyes closed during EVERY commercial, and keep them closed during the whole time commercials are on! only open them when the show/movie is back on. And keep repeating this process. You should feel your eyes getting heaby and your mind drifting. At least, it always works for me! I hope this helps.
If that doesn't work, read. Find a really good book, and read it in bed. Keep reading, don't put the book down. Pretty soon you mind should start feeling tired! This is another thing that always makes me sleepy!
I hope something works for you!
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@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Thank you sweetheart... I do fall off on the couch, and wake up in pain then can't get to sleep once in the bed. I have arthritis in my spine... I have a life long habit of reading before bed. That is the worst part for me, it has worked since I can remember, all the way back to Golden Books when I was 4! But now my eyes get sleepy... but not me.
You did have the right stuff though, those 2 things never failed me in the past. I got rid of the night sweats with prempro, now I can't sleep at all at night. It's a real pain to listen to the birds waking up and it get light out and I'm wide awake! I close the blinds and wait and at about 6 or 7 am I must finally pass out. Thank you for the help. I'm going to try a little TV on my night stand. Maybe that will help, (at least I won't lay there listening to birds outside... )
@buri2_jaemon (619)
• Indonesia
12 Jul 07
i think if you have sindrom like this i think this is more about your habit because if you regurarly sleep on time i think this couldn't happen to you..or if you want to try you can get sleeping pil for awhile but you must remember don't eat this pil regurarly because it not good for your health...
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
12 Jul 07
This is something new not being able to sleep. Ice cream used to make me pass out! Not any more. That's why I think it might be menopause. Strange and terrible things happen from menopause. I know the pill won't let me dream, so I try not to take it if I can. I hope the pill will teach my brain to sleep again. But look here it is 1am and not sleepy at all. Oh well. They say old people don't need so much sleep....
@NikkisGoodies (56)
• United States
12 Jul 07
Benadryl works very well for trouble falling asleep. Try something like walking or light exercise in the early evening to wear you out a little bit so that you'll be tired later on.
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
12 Jul 07
O M G !!! Want to hear something BIZARRE??? I was just looking at your page because I liked your name and pic...checked my mail AND HERE YOU ARE!?!?
I was using benadryl like 4 of them I finally gave up and got some Lunesta... Now if I can just take one before it gets too L8... Well age difference or not this was just TOO weird so I HAVE to make a friend request.
How psychic are you? You must be a powerhouse! Amazing...
@xbrendax (2662)
• United States
18 Jun 07
I have the perfect solution that works for me and I am 56, so menopause plays no part in this. Have you tried making love? or something similar inorder to fall asleep? When I can't sleep, I take care of myself, and when it is over I fall instantly to sleep and wake up feeling wonderful come morning!
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
18 Jun 07
I remember that! I have tried, and it appears that the cymbalta that I have to take kinda shut off my libido completely. I used to say that as long as I had fresh batteries I would never be lonely! I did try that and all I managed to do was give myself a charley horse.
BUT From what you say, there is hope for the future! Maybe when this change is done! Thank you for giving me something to look foreward to! ((HUG))
@wdiong (1815)
• Singapore
18 Jun 07
I found this tip on the net -
Stomach Rub
This soothes down the digestive system and helps to bring about a deeper relaxation. An extra benefit is that it will help you to lose weight by improving the functioning of the digestive system.
Simply lie on your back and place your hand on your navel. Begin to make small circles in a clockwise direction as you gently glide your hand over your stomach. Let your circles gradually become bigger and bigger. When your circles reach the outside of your stomach, gradually reduce their size until you are back at your navel again. Then reverse the direction (to counter-clockwise) and do the same thing again. Repeat this whole series with your other hand. Do this several times.
Hope it helps to send you to sleep.
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
18 Jun 07
What a pretty baby!
Well, it's worth a try. I usually sleep with splints on both hands, but if this helps I won't sleep with them on. Thank you for taking the time to try to help. ((hug))
@AmbiePam (92828)
• United States
18 Jun 07
Have you tried to watch C-Span? LOL, I don't if you get it or not. I too have extreme problems with sleeping. Usually I'm just awake until I'm too exhausted to keep my eyes open. Luckily, these days I get at least four hours of sleep a night. I know I need more, but I'll settle for four. It is MUCH better than none.
Another poster told me about Sleepy Time tea that she got at Walmart. She says it helps her immensely. Another thought is to get some aromatherapy spray and spritz it on your pillow. That sometimes puts me at such ease that sleep comes easier.
Good luck!
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
18 Jun 07
C-Span! You just might have something there! That could bore a corpse!
I did try the spray, smelled nice laying there and every time I tossed and turned it wafted pretty smells... I have sleepy time tea, used to give it to the kids when they were little. actually the Arizona Rx seems to work better, now if I could just find some... sells out quick!
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@ebenjie (440)
• Philippines
18 Jun 07
try not to rest or sleep during afternoon,and just do stuff that can make you tired..and do drink milk before sleeping.
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
18 Jun 07
If I could figure out what made me tired anymore that would be great. I do drink way more milk than I should. I actually used to pass out cold from eating ice cream! Like you could take me to Dairy Queen, but you couldn't let me drive home! That bad... but no more.
Menopause ain't for sissies...
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Well that's what I've BEEN doing, typing all night trying to get tired. I was also re-reading Zacharia Sitchins Earth Chronicles trying to get sleepy. I've been reading since I'm 3 years old, It ALWAYS helped me sleep, but no more.
Maybe hit myself in the head with the book and knock myself out... :D
But I have to say using a bolster makes it much more comfortable to lay awake trying to go to sleep'
Thank you for trying! ((hug))
@lavenderbloom (1057)
• United Arab Emirates
18 Jun 07
Hi,
I face the same problem some times. not everyday. The best thing to do is drink warm milk. A glass of warm mil 15 minutes before going to bed will soothe yur nervous system. Milk contains calcium, which works directly on jagged nerves to make them and you relax.
As somebody said earlier, reading books can make you fall sleep.
Hope it works.Take care
@hazelan (89)
• China
18 Jun 07
Maybe you need to begin practice yoga.I can not get to sleep before 2am last year!I got tired when I was in daytime.I heared that yoga would help me,so I practiced yoga.I tried training.The feeling is pretty good,but insist!
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
18 Jun 07
OOOh no! I have arthritis in my spine. my whole back, I wish I could.... Thank you!
@_tjabele_ (26)
• United States
18 Jun 07
I seem to have the same problem actually.A peaceful mind may help idk i know sleep aids dont work you could try reading a book that always makes me tired.Just keep trying to find new ways i guess.
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
18 Jun 07
Or better ganja. Welcome to the "LOT" !!!
I really am starting to think the book is only going to put me to sleep if I give myself a good whack in the head and knock myself out!
It's a plan...
((HUG))
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Yup. I have tried everything short of drowning myself... Thnx for trying!
@lisado (1227)
• United States
17 Jun 07
I've suffered from Insomnia for a long time. I take 10 mg of Ambien which helps some. I also take Bendryl on top of it, because my body has gotten used to the Ambien so it doesn't always work. My allergies are horrible, anyway. I also have to make sure that no matter how tired I am that I don't nap at all. Even a catnap makes it impossible for me to sleep at night. A bath or shower actually makes it worse for me and tends to wake me up.
I've been "to tired to sleep" and not much helps. I was diagnosed with depression some time ago and meds for that helped, also. I tend to worry about things that I can't control when I lay in bed at night. Instead of sleeping I tend to think about all of the things I COULD be doing if I weren't laying there trying to sleep. I have to make a real effort to NOT think while laying in bed.
An over the counter med that helped our son when he was having night terrors was Melatonin. It's sold over the counter at WalMart near the vitamins.
I don't know if any of these tips will help, but I hope they do! It stinks when you can't sleep. I have two kids I have to chase around and being exhausted makes it ten times harder! :)
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Oh sweetheart... You are in worse shape than me right now. Thank God my kids are grown. It's like you read my mind though, laying there thinking of everything I need to do! I tried the Ambien and you don't dream at all with that, and I wonder if that stuff isn't what started this insomnia. I took 3 benadryl last "night" (5am) to knock myself out. Melatonin does Nada, but what I learned from all these amazing wonderful people that answered me is that the Arizona tea Rx does make me sleepy! And it tastes nice. If nothing else try taking a nap with the kids. My own mother did that with me, although I couldn't do it with my kids. I also have some severe depression and take cymbalta. It works Proof is I'm typing this right now. Listen, part of depression is "obsessive thoughts". Maybe you need to switch or adjust dosage. Also ask the Doc for Xanax because some of what you say sounds like anxiety.Feel like you can't take a deep enough breath? Been there. And they will for sure put you to sleep. Well until menopause hits anyway.... Sweet sleep to you babe.
((HUG))
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
AH HA!
So true. Have to get all the bills paid off. Call Binder&Binder and find out when my disability might be expected.. It's been 3 years now. The fabulous Federal Government admitted that I cannot drive anymore because of the nerve damage to my arms and the arthritis in my spine... BUT! They think I can make a living as a waitress (something I did for a couple of months between jobs). I would love to serve hot soup and coffee to the genius that made that decision.
You're most likely correct. That is why my brain won't shut off. Perhaps someday peace of mind will be mine. Thank you for trying!
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
I can't even stand the sound of his voice. Dude creeps me out big time. If I happened to doze off listening to him I would have nightmares I think!
Thanx for trying though.
@SuchPwn (45)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Well there are many easy ways.. you could just sit there watch tv all night, this doesn't work for me but for many other people.. well you might try turning off the computer & TV at like midnight and try to sleep (u should fall asleep ay about 2am i guess).
one of the most effective methods though is staying up ALL night one day and they start a new sleeping routine, I did it once when I was going to bed far too late for a certain amount of weeks.. and so did my friend after being on a holiday in Miami (rick kids).
If you wanna relax and not sleep, I recommend listening to reggae (unless u wanna get illegal.. joints), it works amazingly.
Try staying up one night; they staying up the WHOLE DAY,, not even sleeping on the couch or anythin.. then fall right asleep at like 10pm :)
That's it for me. Bye
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Tried turning off everything...ended up out in the garden with a flashlight, and a salt shaker hunting slugs...lost track of time, but knew I was out there a while when my pain meds wore off, sheesh. Alot of people are saying to just stay up, I might have to try that. Illegal depends on what state you live in, and I love Matisyau, and the Police, they make me want to dance...If I smoke a bowl, it makes all the pain and stiffness go away, and then it wears off! And I get so pissed. Good ganja used to let me sleep, but I really think it's the rotten menopause doing this to me. If your state hasn't passed a medpot compassion bill yet, and you want to help the sick and dying go to mpp.org and ask what you can do to help. There are ALOT of states passing bills recently. One here missed by just a couple of votes, and I called one of the senators that voted no. He will be voting yes next time it comes up for vote. It doesn't take alot of time, and you will be helping so many people get off the phamacueticals that are making them sicker. Feel free to msg me if you want to ask anything or just talk about this.
Thank you for taking the time to offer help, I apperciate it more than you know.
@Lynnmarie (41)
• United States
17 Jun 07
I have the same issue and haven't found many things that work, but I do have one little trick up my sleeve that helps sometimes. It's a music CD by Andrew Weil called, "Sound Body, Sound Mind, Music for Healing." It works to alter your brainwave patterns, so you go through the normal sleep cycle. It starts you at an awake brainwave state and moves you all the way down to delta waves. I have never failed to fall asleep during the delta wave section.
This is only good if you can stay asleep once you get to sleep, which I often can't. It's also good if you'd just like to enjoy losing consciousness for a half hour or so.
I'm going to look into the adrenal stuff that was recommended here because I've been pretty sure for a while that's my issue. (The hard part has been finding a way to treat it!) But in the meantime, that Andrew Weil CD at least offers a reprieve, and sometimes it's enough to carry me all the way into a night's sleep.
@pamthegypsy (136)
• United States
17 Jun 07
Yup, you're right, can't stay asleep for more than a few... I'm adept at self hypnosis, (a trick I use on my dentist, he thinks I'm asleep!) At this point anything is worth a try. Thank you!