CHRISTIANITY says im going to hell? i can never be saved?

Actually if you do not say that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, and deny that Jesus Christ is the son of God, you will not be saved. So if someone said that he did not like Joseph and Mary's son, Jesus because he was too busy talking when he should have been working as a carpenter, that is saying something against the son of man. However if you deny there is such a thing as the Holy Spirit you are guilty. You see, there are three in the Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (or Ghost in older translations.) and if you deny that the Holy Spirit comes from God, and that God sent Jesus on Earth to save us from our sins, you are guilty. And Jesus does not forgive everyone for everything. He forgives those HE has chosen and if you are in that lot, you will be forgiven, but then God will grant His spirit to you so you would be unable to not curse the Holy Spirit or deny that Jesus is the Christ.

This is really interesting and I have never heard of it before. I am a Christian, as in I go by Christian values and I do believe in Jesus etc, but not having read all of the Bible I cant claim allegiance to it in the way some do. I am going to keep an eye on this post to see what the answers are!

If it is true, you are free. You can tell all the travelling Christian sellsmen that they can try to "save" someone else.

if you are worried at all, that means that the Holy Spirit still dwells in you, which means you have not chased the Holy Spirit away. If you were not worried at all, that would be a cause for concern. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Acts 16:31. I don't believe in a religion of arbitrary rules and regulations... but only in one thing: that God cared for and loved you and me so much that He gave His treasured and only Son to die and rise again, to pay the price for whatever we have done. If we decide to accept this, we have newness of life. The hope of glory is that Christ and the Holy Spirit are indwelling, in you. I have been out of church for 5 years or so, because too many rules and regulations distract me from this truth. But I maintain what I have just told you. God SO LOVED "fightingisintheonlyway" that He gave His only begotten Son, that "fightingistheonlyway" should not perish, but have everlasting life. adapted from John 3:16.

I figure if you don't believe then why care if they say you are "saved" or not.

As a reformed Catholic who now shuns all organized religion, let me assure you it's how you live your life that matters. God gave us intelligence to question and challenge and following any religion (which were all created by man, btw) is foolhardy. IMO And if I'm wrong I'll see you in hell ;)

my earliest memmories from my father's family was being told that i was already condemned to hell, whatever. My father's family were primative methodists. I thank the bones of the earth that my mother's family were pagans, and this is the path i follow. It seems self-defeting to me to to tell your believers that whatever they do, they will burn in hell. If that is the case, then why not do as you like? Always struck me as odd that one lol keep on posting blessed be

As a believer, I am of the opinion that we should never take the text of the Bible literally, one should rather read it in context. Modern day chistians have to adapt the scripture into modern day context, otherwise we are all doomed by at least one or many versus in the Bible.

The Holy Spirit only comes to us AFTER salvation. It's the Spirit of God that lives in us once we've accepted Him. My understanding of these scriptures is that if we accept God and then turn our back on Him, then and only then is it too late. It sounds to me like you've never accepted God in the first place, so you're probably still ok.

The scripture you quoted says nothing about doubting. It talks of not accepting and cursing. There is a big difference! It would take a lot to turn against the Holy Spirit if you have accepted Jesus and believe whole heartedly in God. It would be like a plane flying over the ocean from North America to Europe. At a certain point in the flight there is not enough gas left in the plane to go back, only enough to go on. If the Holy Spirit has filled your heart, it would take a lot of evil to turn away. If there was enough evil to overcome the Spirit, then like the plane that turns back, you would go down. I do believe there are people who are so filled with evil, or become so filled with evil they are damned. But I don't believe anyone who is sincere in their belief or their seeking for a relationship to God will be in that category. I hope I am making sense, here. It is a matter of the inner being. Even disbelieving is not the same thing. You have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit because you are a non-believer. You cannot blaspheme what you don't have. If you ever experience the Spirit, then deny what you have experienced...that is the difference.

Oh well, it's an abomination to eat shell fish too. Don't see Red Lobster going out of business.

Dear fightingistheonlyway, it is really sad when so mane people, Christians inclusive, treat questions of faith at a level of more ignorance than knowledge. To be a believer includes the study of my faith' teachings. Then I will not misunderstand them or give confounding answers to people who aks like you do. The Holy Spirit is God's agent in order to convince people of their sin, of God's plan for salvation and that God judges evil (John 16:8). Rejecting the Holy Spirit is rejecting God's invitation to accept his mercy and a denial to repent. Well, this can never be forgiven, simply because God's pardon is given to those who decide to ask him for it. Hw who, forced because of persecution will be so weak to deny being a follower of Christ, will still find forgiveness. But he who never once allows himself to receive the Spirit of God, can't be born again and has condemned himself. If ever somebody seriously worried about having sinned against the Holy Spirit, this is enough to show that the Holy Spirit is well present in him.

It is very important to read the Bible verses in context. If you read the whole of Mark chapter 3 (I'm not able to copy and paste but if you would go the http://www.biblegateway.com and look for Mark 3) In that chapter, Jesus had just healed many people. The teachers of the Law said that Jesus could heal because He had the evil spirit. Jesus then said those words in Mark 3:29 to warn the teachers of the law that if they continue not to recognise the workings of the Holy Spirit then they cannot be saved. Note that it is the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin and the neccessity to repent and turn to God. So, if we are to reject the Holy Spirit then how are we to come to God. Hope this answers your question.

Have you ever cursed the Holy Spirit? If you ever cursed the Holy Spirit I think that you would know it. Because you would get smote down so quick! Dont try it now to curse. Just ask for forgiveness for all sin and go on. I think that we get to hung up on the legalistic crap. God just wants a relationship with us.

I think what that is really saying is that if you reject God, or renounce him then you can never be forgiven. I'm sure you have not done that, right? Through God all things are possible. Also, keep in mind that the Bible was written way back when. Alot of things have changed since then. Although you should still abide by the 10 comandments and the basics, there are things in the Bible that don't really cover issues of today. Take for example the fact that it says, you shouldn't live with someone unless you are married? How can one do that today? You don't really know the person unless you live with them. Keep God in your heart and soul and always welcome him and never reject or remounce him. You'll be ok!

hi fightingistheonlyway, This is about as nonsensical as any logic i've ever seen. I'm talking about the idea of taking an important religious question to a free-for-all public discussion forum, and hoping to get a useful answer. Sure, you'll get answers, just the same as if you took important questions about your house electrical wiring installation to the local laundrette to discuss with the locals who happen to be there doing their laundry at the time. Which means basically that you're not really serious about the question, beside it's value as a vehicle for idle gossip. Which may be very serious for you - lots of people take their gossip very seriously. There's whole branches of "Christianity" that have sprung up that way - complete with their own "church", as if God's Creation is a democracy and whoever gets the most votes wins. No doubt lots of people would even like to vote God out of Heaven - and there's lots of shysters that would happily sell the voting cards to you. If you have any real interest in such an issue, then I'd suggest asking someone who has more solid grounding in the matter about it.

I am Agnostic, but I like to play around with the idea, that GOD indeed exists, just because I like having a backup plan to becoming worm food. I know you are toying with this discussion, (tsk-tsk) because it seems you pretty much have your mind made up that GOD does not exist, but this topic gets some great responses. So, how do you curse a holy spirit? "oh you #$&5*(#! Holy Spirit!" or, do they mean something else? One thing I have noticed about the Holy Spirit is that it is not exclusive to any one religious affiliation, or sect. you can have it in a Druid gathering, or a Christian gathering. Pagan or Christian, what a concept! anyways, the spirit is the same. I have assumed that the spirit being used for other religious affiliations would be an abomination according to the bible, for my best guess.

It my opinion that if you are even asking this question than you have not whole heartedly denounced God. In fact it is extremely difficult for any human to do so unless they were born with a "black heart". Furthermore, I dont believe that any human has the right to pass judgemnt on another, so anyone who says these things to you is walking a fine line, becuase the bible says Do not pass judgement on others for you shall be judged a 100 fold. Meaning that they will face a much harder judgement. The fact that you even know the scriptures says alot. Most of us go through our lifes without even knowing or understanding ourselves let alone our hearts. Dont confuse what the mind believes with what your heart believes. Each person is different so dont stop searching for the answers you need, not want, NEED. Sadly, no one will truely know the truth until they die. I know this probably creates more questions but I hope it helps answer a few too.

If you are a believer then what you read is'nt scary. The verse is for people who after hearing about Jesus hardened their heart not to believe on Him. You see, the Holy Spirit is pointing out to Jesus for salvation. Believing not Jesus is quenching the Holy Spirit.

I think it's more referring to someone who never accepts the Holy Spirit. Like you said, everyone has doubts, but if you come to accept the Holy Spirit by the time you die, then you will be forgiven for the times that you didn't believe, but if you die a non-believer, than you won't be forgiven. That's just how I see it, but I guess we can only really speculate.