science vs god
By syndibee
@syndibee (799)
United States
June 19, 2007 11:49pm CST
is there a happy medium? do you think science will eventually prove/or disprove the existence of god? can we both have been created and evolved?
i believe that science and god are actually becoming closer to one and the same. i know that statement will put many people on both sides of the spectrum in an uproar. i remember my mom once said that science will one day prove that god exists, now of course there are those that don't believe in god and do believe in science who believe that science will actually prove that there is no god. do you think that science just wastes time even trying to prove or disprove the existence of god?
personally i do believe that we were created, not as we are today but as a more simple celled being that has evolved into humanity. maybe even started as a single celled organism that has evolved into every living thing on earth. i don't believe that creationism and evolution need to be separate topics. i'm interested to read others views on this subject.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
21 Jun 07
I gave up on religion many years ago because it was not moving with science. Religion says the world was created 5000 yrs ago. This is Bunk and Everyone knows it. AS far as I'm concerned science is proving the existance of God everyday. Einstein believed in God, and was undoubtedly the Most famous Modern Day Scientist. I think it makes no difference what science proves or dispproves. These questions will be answered for you when you hold your first child!
@syndibee (799)
• United States
21 Jun 07
hmmmm i've had 3 children, and tho i believe in the miracle of birth, and have experienced it; it doesn't answer my questions, and i still ask. yes i use the word miracle. i do have my beliefs..though i also believe in science. as another poster stated, we want it all..i'm one of those.
@ashamilee (64)
• United States
20 Jun 07
I think that there are some serious connections that both sides negate.
My husband and I watched a show on the History Channel called "Bible Battles" which was all about how the Bible is not to be taken as literally as we do in our culture. For example, the walls of Jericho. We're told that they marched around the walls for days and "God" brought the walls of Jericho down. This documentary went into how it actually happened. There were allies on the inside who would throw ropes down at night, letting a few in at a time. The walking around the walls served as a distraction. A rather good military tactic if you think about it.
Another was the Ark. The word in Aramaic that was used to describe "world" is actually more synonymous with our word for "state" so it's possible because it would have been much less of an issue.
I think it's all in how you look at it, honestly. I think the bible is a good story, but it's just that. A history book that it biased towards the views of the men who wrote and translated it.
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@casita (237)
• United States
21 Jun 07
The Bible is also metaphor.
For example, when Judas betrayed Jesus it was "night."
Or I love the nativity metaphors:
The Lamb of God was born in a stable.
The shepherds sought the Good Shepherd.
The Kings sought the Prince of Peace.
The Wise Men sought the Author of Wisdom.
The Bread of Life was born in an animal's feeding trough.
The Star shone brightly over the newborn Light of the World.
I also believe, as you say, that it is biased. The Books of the Bible where written during a certain points in history, with a certain a view, from a certain cultural persepctive. I don't deny them as being Inspired. And I do believe it to be more than a history book. . .
I also like and agree with you an the issue of language. I speak Spanish. In Spanish the story of the loaves and fishes takes on a different context. We English we say "fish." We go fishing, we caught fish. In Spanish we have "peces" and "pescados." One is the fish you are going to catch. The other is the fish already caught. The metaphor twists a little when the story is told in Spanish. My point is that to translate from the Aramaic or the Greek into English we can lose something.
I believe the Bible holds great truths. But I also believe that there are metaphors that we so often miss because we want it to be a certain something.
As I said in another post, I believe in God, but I am still evolving.
@cybermom45 (196)
• United States
20 Jun 07
While taking biology in college I asked my proff how anyone could believe such perfection in the make up of all life, be it human,plant or animal could possibly have been an accident. She told me that at many of the conferences discussing and debating the theories of evolution and creationism many of the panel on the side of creationism( a perfect God creating us in his image) are in fact scientists. I use to believe that yes, God created all, but noone said how he created it. Now I don't believe it needs to be proven one way or another, just taught both ways for everyone to be able to make informed decisions on their own of their own free will.Either faith in science or faith in God will come with education on both theories. Either way, faith doesn't need proof.
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@syndibee (799)
• United States
20 Jun 07
i think i would have enjoyed discussions with that prof. the whole "created in gods image" concept is interesting in itself. as there are many shapes and sizes of people..we all look different yet are all created in gods image. maybe gods image is a bit broader than our human eye can see.
thanx for your response
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@mrrtomatoe (800)
• Canada
21 Jun 07
I don't think religion can be proved. I think t s simply something an individual chooses to believe. Either way as you mentioned about science never actually proves something, it simply allows for accurate predicitions but is never (in theory) 100% accurate, so even if the existance of god is proven/disproven it is never a 100% proof.
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@slboller (13)
• Canada
21 Jun 07
i think the two are one.
first off if we evolved then who created the single cell organism?
and how did that cell get there in the first place,evolution for me is just a belief for those that may be lacking faith.
but it seems obvious to me that if we did evolve as people profess then there would have had to be someone higher then cells and organisms here before all that anyway..that knew everything there is about science,math etc...
i dont a little to deep for tonight
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@AndriaToh (1268)
• Malaysia
20 Jun 07
"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior Spirit who reveals Himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power,which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe forms my idea of God" Albert Einstein.
I must say thet I agree with your mom and Albert Einstein - the more we learn from science, the more we realise how incredible the world is.
For eg.the human cell. As microscopes improve, we discover more and more "things" in the cell. How can we happen by chance - this is one of the evidence that there is a God.
