Did you ever Think of Changing or Did Change your religion!!?
By kamran12
@kamran12 (5526)
Pakistan
12 responses
@cdparazo (5765)
• Philippines
25 Jun 07
It never entered my mind. I was asked to change my religion more than once in the past and I thought what for? I am happy with my religion and with God. What for? when I already have God in my life. Religion is a man's search for God, and if one finds it in another religion, then fine.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
25 Jun 07
Hello, cdparazo!:-)
I am glad that you are content and happy with your religion. I just wanted to know that what goes on in people's mind when they change! do they really change, what makes them change...these were the questions I was seeking.
Thanks for responding:-)
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@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
25 Jun 07
I'm taking a step back from religious activities now. I haven't converted into anything else, but I need to take a break from the whole religion thing. I was baptized catholic and there were times in my life when I viewed it as the best way to live. Then I met my husband and he is far from religious, yet a loving, generous and reliable person. I haven't met anyone who said anything bad about him for the whole 6 yrs of our marriage. He makes me see that someone doesn't have to be religious or belong to any religion, to be a good person.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
25 Jun 07
Hello, LittleMel!
You are right that a person need not be religious to be basically good, goodness in our nature perhaps. Perhpas we all sometimes need to step back for a while to judge ourselves or just to take a breath to see things differently.
Thanks for sharing:-)
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@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
23 Jun 07
i used to be religious, then i went agnostic and then i became an atheist. i guess i needed proof. i think most people change religions because of their search for truth, and i think thats a good thing cuz the more you search, the more you change and finally you will find the truth.
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@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
23 Jun 07
really? so your parents were agnostic?
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
23 Jun 07
yes really, but it doesn't mean that my parents were agnostic:-) they were theists and I refused to accept it and went my own way as I was never satisfied about what they said about somethings. I wokred my own way later to become a theist.
What about you?
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@filmbuff (2909)
• United States
23 Jun 07
I've changed my religions many times and may do so again.
Many people have their religion forced on them at childhood. They are indoctrinated into believing the same things as their parents, by their parents at a point in their lives when they are the most suggestable.
They are often not given a choice to make up their own minds and form their own beliefs. They have always remembered things a certain way from their earliest memories, because it just *is*. This was not the case in my family.
To give you a little background, I come from an inter-faith marrige. But there were no less than four religions I was exposed to from childhood due to cultural reasons and extended family members such as Aunts, Uncles, and Grandparents.
I was encouraged to explore all those religions and others if I chose to do so; which I did. I spent the years from when I was 12 to 20-something learning about different religions, faiths, and beliefs.
What I found from researching and participating in so many different religions is also one of my favorite sayings in regards to religions, "They are all right, and they are all wrong." (I can feel my star rating dropping as I type this...free speech, gotta love it.)
Every religion I've ever been exposed to has things that I like about it, and things that I don't. Some things make sense, some things don't. Since religions are run by man, they are prone to error and our own fallacies.
Another point to support my initial suppisition above is that many of these religions are from thousands of years ago. Things that they spoke then, are taken out of context now. We were never meant to be their audience, there were specific issues from those times that have long been addressed and forgotten in the annals of history.
I may yet switch religions again, because I am learning and growing. I have not yet found what I am looking for. My knowlege expands as do my wisdom and beliefs.
I do not want them immutable, a thing of steel that cannot bend when confronted with fact, or something else that is more logical or makes more sense to me personally.
As it stands now, I *choose* not to officially belong to *any* religion, (although many of them are dear to me) because to do so would be denying myself. If I do not agree with a religion's belief I cannot claim to be a believer and just exclude that parts that I don't like or agree with. I would be forced to give lip service and pretend to be something that I am not and believe things that I don't.
As it stands now, I take things from each of the religions that I agree with and believe in and make them my own. The rest, those other things that I cannot agree with or believe in, I discard.
One day I may come across a religion that holds the same beliefs as I do. If that day comes I will probably join it. However, I suspect that will never happen because it would require me to start a religion of my own and I really have no interest in doing that.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
23 Jun 07
Hello filmbuff!:-)
I am glad that you participated here with all you interesting views:-)
I am glad that whenever my parents replied to my questions, they always added,"this is how I/we think which could be wrong". I ended up being an agnostic in my teenage as I was not satisfied about everything they said. Later I worked my own way to become theist. I have shared my story here: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1060450.aspx (#5)
You are very right about the fact that many children are indoctrinated and forced to believe what their parents believe. Inter faith marriage can be very interesting in the sense that it provides motivation to study different religions which has been the case for you. I think you have probably been lucky in that regard. Don't worry about star rating, you see my star coming down from 10 to 8 in less than a week:-) I don't know who I have offended:-)
You are also right that as religions are run by men so there is always a chance of error, also that many of the things in past don't apply to us. But as far as principles are concerned they can be ever green, isn't it so?
It is interesting and commendable, how you keep yourself open to different ideas that work well for you or that make sense. I am much like the same as while I believe in what I believe, I remain open to wisdom, no matter from where it comes.
Ah! starting a religion would be interesting, but I think you will find many followers in that:-) but then again after a while people will come in it and will twist things up for later generations to see the errors in it:-)
Thanks so much for sharing your views, filmbuff, I really appreciate:-)
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Jun 07
I can very well understand, filmbuff, how it could have created an identity crisis for you. Perhaps it might be better for you at the end of the day for the fact that it provided you a chance to free thinking and choosing the best out of all. I believe, you have the capability to deal with the identity crisis:-)
I know a free mind, like you, would be less worried about such petty things as rating than to sacrifice the integrity. You sound very right that perhaps most people work opposite to how it is supposed to be.
I see when you say that principles might get twisted for benefit of someone. I would, however, like if you could explain this, "Even though those views may contradict each other, they do not invalidate each other".
I agree with you on the last paragraph:-) Thanks for coming back and explaining in detail your perspective:-)
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@filmbuff (2909)
• United States
28 Jun 07
To try to explain that phrase better, I think the whole concept of G-d, life and religion and the way things work are far too complicated for any one person or group of people to understand.
Each person has their own experiences to draw from and their own understanding of this world and the next. Even though the opinions differ they do not invalidate anothers contradictive beliefs or experinces.
For example, some may see the Virgin Mary and be healed by it. I don't buy into that school of thought but my beliefs do not invalidate theirs, even though they contradict each other. If that makes any sense.
It boils down to the fact that no one has all the answers. We won't until we die, if we do even then...
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
I grew up a Protestant, and when I was 23 I quit the Church entirely.It seemed to me that Organised Religion Told me how to Think and what to Believe. I am capable of thinking and I needed to believe my own beliefs. So I Studied Spiritualism for many years, and its the only religion I believe in or need.
I'm very happy with My beliefs, and I don't need a Priest or Pastor in my Life.
@Gordano (795)
• United States
28 Jun 07
Hello
I am a Muslim , and Here is My Opinion .
Being a Muslim Means you will never Think in changing your religion , Do you Know why ?
Here is a verse of the Quran Explain This Point;
[2.285] The apostle believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers; they all believe in Allah and His angels and His books and His apostles; We make no difference between any of His apostles; and they say: We hear and obey, our Lord! Thy forgiveness (do we crave), and to Thee is the eventual course.
as You see , Being a Muslim mean that you Believe in
- God
- His angels
- His books
- His apostles
- make no difference between any of His apostles
I think that is Very sufficient , as It means that you can't Be a Muslim Till you Respect and believe other religions .
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
28 Jun 07
Hello, Gordano!
I am glad that you are satisfied with your beliefs and that they work well for you. I liked to know when a person changes his religion, what goes in his/her mind.
Thank you for sharing the verse and telling me that you are tolerant of other religions. but what exactly this tolerance is about!? do you accept other religions to be true or do you accept that they have right to exist? and what about pagans, they don't believe in prophets and what about atheists? Sorry to ask too many questions but I wanted you to explain this tolerance phenomenon as you think of it.
Thanks for sharing:-)
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@casita (237)
• United States
23 Jun 07
No, I haven't thought of it, really.
However, I have studied other religious formally and informally. That is to say, I've studied other religious by taking formal classes as well as reading books on my own.
Peoples' ways of faith have always interested me. And I will mostly likely continue to study them for years to come.
I don't think any one religion out there is perfect because although divinely inspired, they are run by human beings. As such, I don't think any one religion holds perfection. . .including mine: Roman Catholic.
I must admit I have a love/hate relationship with certain elements of the formal structure of my church, but I love the grassroots element: her people.
In the end, I have found that most formal religious have the same basic tenents: belief in God (whatever we may call Him/Her); live life on this earth by doing good for others; die and go to heaven (or whatever we may call our eternity).
Sure, there are different prophets, different titles for God, different rituals, initations, etc. . .but it's basically that: Belief in God; Do Good; Go Home.
No, I haven't changed my religion and have no inclination to do so. But I will continue to study the faith belief of others.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
23 Jun 07
It's really commendable, casita, that you study other religions and will continue to do so:-)
You are, though, that men created errors and problems in religions while their basic tenets are good and healthy. I too think that most religions have tenets based on goodness.
Thanks for sharing your views, casita:-)
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@Angelwhispers (8978)
• United States
23 Jun 07
I have always been thoughtful and mindful of the spiritual aspect of my relationship with God. I have not changed in how I view my faith. What I have changed is how I relate to religion as an organized system. I am no longer denominationally driven. I came to a point in my life that I realized the tactics used, and the principles being taught were those of fear and intimidation to keep the flock under control and the pockets of the "church" filled with gold. I began to search for the answers and understanding for myself. I decided that God gave me a brain, and I had to learn to use it and begin to think on my own, outside of the religion based box. Through this I have found a much deeper and profound walk. I will not begin to say that I understand everything, because in reality I know very little, but the grasp I do have is much better then when I was sitting in the church pew every week and being filled with nonsense.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
23 Jun 07
Hello, Angelwhispers!:-)
It's interesting that while you didn't change your faith, you still changed your perspective and how you see things that make sense for you. You are also right about the tactics used by not only church but also other religions to keep 'control' over populace. I see that reason can be more fitting and binding factor than fear or intimidation.
I am glad that you use your brain and I trust your 'brain' to be wise:-) It's important to go out of the box even for understanding the very religion that one follows.
I am glad that you decided to share your views here, Angelwhispers! always appreciated:-)
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
23 Jun 07
I have never changed my religion, but there was a point in my life when I seriously considered it. Ultimately my reasoning was that so many people around me hated me for my beliefs, and I constantly felt as if no one understood me. So a part of me thought "It's just religion, other people change religions, can't I do so too?"
The answer was that I couldn't. My relationship with my Gods is so personal that to betray them felt like betraying my closest friends. I simply couldn't do it. No matter how much I studied other religions, or spent time with people of other religions, or even tried to feel the presence of another deity, I just couldn't get over the feeling that I was off my true path.
I know many people who found the path they consider their true path later in life, and changed from the religions they learned when they were young to be on that path. In a way I admire those people, because they had to make a hard decision. I was both lucky in that I had contact with the path that was right for me early on, and unlucky that the intolerance of others nearly drove me from that path.
These days it still seems like all the time people are trying to convert me, online and offline. I've gotten to where I accept that most of the time these people are just trying to save me from some horrible fate their religion teaches will fall upon unbelievers, but I am never anymore tempted to stray. Ultimately my own love for my Gods would simply not allow that.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
24 Jun 07
It's sad, lecanis, that you had to think of changing religion just because some people hated you for your beliefs. Why one should think that someone is to be hated just for his/her beliefs, I don't understand. Even if someone thinks that he/she is on right path, it doesn't give him/her permission to hate others just because they believe something else. I think that only reason and logic should be implied if one has to tell others about his/her own belief without hating them.
It's nice that you are content on your path and have relationship so dare to you. I am also glad that you still study other religions. You also a positive look on the people who try to convert you, simply commendable.
Thanks for sharing your views, lecanis!:-)
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@eadward (140)
• Brazil
23 Jun 07
I never tought about it. I don't follow it strictly, nor go to curch, but I always called myself a roman catholic. I don't know why, I just like the Roman Catholic Church as an institution. I find it impressive, even on it's darkest moments. Power is something I admire much.
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@I_LUV_U (2519)
• India
2 Jul 07
Till today, i have not thought like that. I'm satisfied with my religion.
Every religion permits to do good and preaches good. If we are good at heart and true to ourselves, that's enough, we can turn everything around to our taste and seek happiness in our own religion.
We should all first learn that we belong to the religion of HUMANITY.
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