"A Muslim killed his neighbor.."
By mskzalameda
@mskzalameda (4023)
Philippines
June 23, 2007 9:38am CST
Is there something wrong in this title? I think there is. A big mistake committed by most writers in the present generation.
Religion is not a big deal for us people when knowing the news but some mediator use it to make the news more appealing to the people.
If a Christian will kill his neighbor, will the writer put on his title "A Christian (Catholic) killed his neighbor"? I think No.
I am not a Muslim but I feel some part for them I understand their ways and cultures and so we need not to judge then through their religion. If we see someone with a turban or something like that his body is well covered, we often feel uncomfortable for the word MUSLIM is something we relate to TERRORISM. Am I right there or wrong?
For example, in a mall, a Catholic having normal clothes on him, while the guard is scanning him, it will only take a second or so and then finish, you can enter. On the other side of the world of Muslims, if they will enter the mall, having their body almost all covered, the security guard will take a more time to check on him for the mindset is Muslims are terrorists.
Some commit discrimination in this attitude and we humans hurt other normal humans who is more religious than any Catholic will do.
If Muslims will be given time to reason out on their part, they will say that, don't you Christians think that you commit more crimes than the Muslim people?
Hey I am not putting up a dispute on here between the Muslim and the Christians, I just want to give fairness to them too.
:)
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20 responses
@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
23 Jun 07
It is very interesting what you said, and you are write.
But you can not ignore the fact that there is a big reason for phrasing the header on the specific religion.
Ofcourse not all muslims are like that, i live in israel, and i have a few good muslim friends that are the kindest people and peacful human beings.
But the big question is: is it more common to muslims to use revenge that easily? And i can tell you that it is.
There are far too many cases of muslims that think it is ok to use family revenge in order to do those awful things.
It is not accidental.
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
23 Jun 07
so you're saying that they are more revengeful than Christians? I think it also depends. Since our country is a Catholic one, most criminal cases are made by Catholic and few Muslim cases but maybe, those Muslim really commit that for a reason, a big one.
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
but we can't understand the killer's and the murderers feelings unless we become one. their feelings differ very much form us. They have done those things not due to their own will, maybe they loose their sanity that's why they have done those. It is really bad to get a person's life but sanity can't be controlled mostly because if this have eaten them.
@new4rezzouq (77)
• Morocco
24 Jun 07
thank you very much dear mskzalameda for your subject for me your the best you have give the reason and rhite woords for mesulman thank you another time the muslem not terrorism but its an normal human too.
thanks
your frien N
ew4rezzouq
@anjrit (997)
• Indonesia
23 Jun 07
the title is provocating madams...
I'm a moslem.I don't know why another people with different religion look moslem like a wild people and related to the terrorist.I live in most all of the citizens are moslem so I didn't got any different scanning when I go to amll.I really not agree that moslem streotyped as a terrorist that's really not fair.the people who said that moslemis near with terrorist must learn more the way of life in moslem,they will find that that's trully false
Thanks for your discussionss
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
23 Jun 07
well, we can't also blame them for being that way since media put them to be that way. Some acts of Muslim also made them feel that way. Those terror attacks that they knew that the Muslims did, it come to the mind of the people and then, they don't go for further knowledge. They get contented from what they hear and don't explore more. maybe this is also something people lacks.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
23 Jun 07
yes it is. media lacks sense of judgment since they are the gatekeepers, they filter and say what is news and what is not. They lack the balance that is needed in delivering a news. They know that they are the ones whom the people will believe in but still, they don't do it purely.
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@anjrit (997)
• Indonesia
23 Jun 07
but it makes like general conclusions.it still not fair.not just muslim people do that (and they do that might be because high pressure and discrimination).there more muslim people suffered like in bosnia,pattaya (thailand),irak,palestine and the media didn't inform it like they inform about terrorist.
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@billabadmash (1011)
• Pakistan
23 Jun 07
I am Muslim (Al Hamdulliah)
You know killing and when i mean killing i mean innocent killing meaning killing women or children or old people even in war is prohibited in Islam also there is a saying in HOLY QURAN
"Who has saved a life a single person has saved the whole humanity."
so you see Islam is nothing to do with terrerism but there is a border between terrorism and freedom fight will you not protect yourself if i came to your home and start to takeover all the thing . People you have minds think and read about Islam before making any judgment.
I dont know why people feel strange if a women in Islam wear Burqa or Hejab but wont feel strange if she wears nothing.
People i have a request before making any judgement do a little research and read something about it and you will know the reality of Islam. Its peace not the terrorism.
Thank You.
May Allah Almighty Give you the power of Judgment.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
23 Jun 07
well that is what I am pointing out here. People judge on second hand information and having no basis at all. They don't seek for true answers, they just judge and thats' period. People in nature is very judgmental admit it or not.
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
23 Jun 07
if we relate muslims to terrorism it is there own fault because they do not speak against it and while all mulims may not be terrorists these days most terrorists seem to be muslims
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
it is because people just rely on their instincts and not on facts
@subathra (3519)
• India
24 Jun 07
Some incidents that happened in recent past has given way for statements like this.Terrorism is not related to any particular religion actually its a motive of certain people which is hurting so many.
I have many muslim friends and they feel hurted when their religion is blamed for terrorism.I too feel its not fair.The media is focussing too much on this issue.None of the religions practice killings and its the people who do such brutal acts & name it as religion.
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
yes that is so right. NONE of the religions we have is practicing any killings. People independently do this and their religion is out of the topic.
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@tredale (1309)
• Australia
23 Jun 07
I completely agree mskzalameda they also do it with black and gay people. Stop with the titles and just tell us the whole story. It is media hype and so many people buy into it. I care that the guy killed his neighbour not what religion,colour or age he was. If you are going to say something like this about muslims it should be said about everyone.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
23 Jun 07
yes. Bias statements are being done obviously for the title says it all right? media men need to sop this kind of reporting now.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
26 Jun 07
then don't judge at all. its as simple as that. If you really don't want to hurt other people's feeling, you'll just keep silent since you don't know anything about thjem first hand.
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
25 Jun 07
yes it is somewhat a media fault but the readers also has a big participation in this mistake. They just judge and believe what they have read and don't go deeper and see some facts first hand. :)
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@alamzaib (1287)
• Pakistan
24 Jun 07
thanks for this discussion.I agree with you .
but in my mind I have a question that why some people mediators do that.or I think Some non-muslim extremism do that so that they try to represent bad image of islam in the world.
I am thankful to you that you are open minded person.
here I would like to say that Islam is the religion of peace and I have fully agree with this.In afghanistan some terrorists do such this ,Actually Al-Qaida made by United states of America to defeat soviet union in afghanistan and now USA try to finish Al-Quida because they dont want Al-quaida no loonger.
thanks
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
you're welcome. yes that is. there are two types of Muslim the extremists which are the terrorist minds and the other one who is the other way around. we need not to generalize them as to what some have done. generalizing will only create a bad feelings.
@lucy02 (5015)
• United States
24 Jun 07
Yes, it is wrong. His being a Muslim probably had nothing to do with him killing his neighbor. I don't know why the people in media bring up race, religion, or other things that really aren't important to the person reading or hearing the story. I think it is racist and discriminatory to mention such things when it is not pertinent.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
25 Jun 07
yes they just state it for the news to be bought by the buyers. Admit it, some people really love having specifics and then judge them generally which is wrong, very wrong.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
25 Jun 07
I ompletely agree with you. It is not right to have headlines that clearly discriminate against one religious group. As you stated, it is not likely we are going to see a headline that says "A Christain killed a Christian".
Where the religion is appropiate to a news report, or discussion, then ye, it needs to be said.
But the idea is that it need to be relevant. I suspect th edia are doing this deliberately, to get more attention to their story.
Unfortunately, it is having a negative effect of sending out a"hidden" message.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
25 Jun 07
yes it is so very true jennybianca. I like that title you have given, very catchy he he! I think people will get curious and grab one copy of the paper with that kind of title. Title really matters. Some titles lie. They are just attention grabber. In the summary of the story, you can understand it fully but some titles even its catchy, is still unacceptable just like the title on this one. thanks! ;)
@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
23 Jun 07
Yes i am saying that the muslim communities in countries that surround israel have the revenge as a main thing. I would not have said that, if i would not have knewn that.
believe me.
About other muslim countries i do not know, and i do not judge.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
23 Jun 07
yes I understand you but I can't agree 100 percent since that is just a second hand info for me. Its better if I can learn it first hand. maybe some day. he he! well thanks and don't mind it, its just an error mistake. ;)
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@VotreAmie (3028)
• United States
24 Jun 07
They use the title to have more audience. If somebody killed their neighbor and they are Muslim, well it's because of their religion. They want to say that their religion made them do it. I'm tired of this too.
As for the way Muslim women are dressed, that's exactly how some catholic/christian nones are dressed too. So I don't understand why this is seen as bad by some people.
There is always good and bad everywhere. We can never judge people for their faith, race, country etc. We are all humans ans as such we can be good or bad, usually both lol Take care mskzalameda.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
yes that is true. they make some basis of judgment because of the religion the belong to. its just too tiring. yeah. tiring is the word and annoying.
@inday312saylon (747)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
Why do you even start a discussion like this that just adds to the hosts of other stereotypes for our muslim brothers? They have a life to live, and so do you. So let's leave it that way, shall we?
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
I think you even don't bother to read my whole discussion. I am pointing out here that Muslims have "also have" the right to live normally with the Christians without being criticized on how they look nor dress. I am not being biased here just because I am a Christian. I am also giving part for the Muslims. Go ahead read it. thanks
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
they might but they will also read that it favors them pretty well so as not to be able for the word bias to be present. understanding is the key.
@inday312saylon (747)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
I have read your entire discussion for the nth time. My point is that, just posting a title like that could just send stereotype images for muslims even for those who would just see your title and not read the whole thing. That's no problem me, my only concern is that you might find yourself in trouble because of that. Don't bother replying.
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@titoooti (82)
• Egypt
25 Jun 07
hey nice discussion but why some people treat muslims like killers we are not that but we deal with life like any one hey when some body kill so he kill not muslims who kill
in islam killed people is not allowed any way
so please have aminute to think about what you insist on
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
25 Jun 07
yes I am pointing out here that you Muslims are not all Killers like some or many people think. this concept is generalization of the facts of the past and this must not be taken as a whole.
@kiiizu (1901)
• Estonia
23 Jun 07
Yes, there is something wrong... not only with this title but as far I understand the anti-moslem propaganda began long time ago already.
A year or so ago I read a great book, the memoires of Queen Noor "Leap of Faith: Memoirs of an Unexpected Life" I liked the book very much, and suggest wholeheartedly to everybody: read it. It's a real eye-opener for everyone who has been feed from early childhood with the titles like the one you quoted.
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
I can see by the way you express your feelings that it is indeed an interesting book, I better find one in eBay he he! thanks! ;)
@joey_matthews (8354)
•
23 Jun 07
Oh geez.
I think it's sad when another chooses to do this, I think it's lame too. I wouldn't dream of hurting another for silly reasons, but that's the problem with todays world.
~Joey
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@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
yes it is the common mistake of news reporter nowadays. they use it for their news to be sensational and us, the readers and tv viewers nor radio listeners, we like this kind of reporting and so they keep it up.
@mummymo (23706)
•
2 Jul 07
I can understand exactly where you are coming from my friend and I agree with you wholeheartedly! I am a christian and I have many muslim friends who condemn the terrorists and feel they betray all the people of their faith when they commit these attrocities! We all have to be on our guard in this day and age but I agree with you in that the media have a lot to do with the discrimination shown to muslims nowadays! XXX
@dio123 (1788)
• India
23 Jun 07
This discremination has been created by human beings only God has created all of us same but we have divided the society by cast, color and race etc good humans needs special attentions because of the wrong deeds of few uncivilized peoples all of their community or race should not treated with disgrace, We should Respect all human being who work for the wellness of the society
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
23 Jun 07
yes people know that it is the RIGHT thing to do but they often forgot it and just judge on things that in reality, they don't actually know.
@mskzalameda (4023)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
yes we are all the same and the only thing that differentiates us from each other is our religion. One need not to JUDGE on the title itself but read the whole story. I am emphasizing here that in reality, PEOPLE JUDGE ON WHAT THE TITLE SAYS FOR THEY THINK THAT THE TITLE SAYS IT ALL which is not true. Some titles are deceptive.
