Where Do The Rules of Marriage Come From?
By sweetmimzim3
@sweetmimzim3 (261)
United States
June 23, 2007 11:18am CST
Why do they seem to acquire full force only after a total committment? There are several kinds of expectations that operate at different stages of a marriage. The early, romantic expectations concern loving and being loved-continuously. One of lifes' cruel deceptions is the myth that the intense idealization and infatuation that draw a couple together will guarantee a loving relationship over the years. Sometimes this romantic notion is fortified by the belief "If I am a good spouse, I will surely be loved and happy." Although the notion that a couple have to work ath their relationship has become commonplace, it is surprising how few people actually follow this precept-or know what to do. In the early phose of marriage, the idealization and passionate attachment tend to smooth over differences. As time goes on, many partners may avoid facing their emerging differences out of a futile hope that things will work themselves out. Moreover, one of the mates may be oblivious to the fact that there are real difficulties or may believe that the partner is only manufacturing problems or is a chronic complainer. When the partners finally do attempt to solve their problems, they may have accumulated so many memories of slights and injustices that they can no longer approach their difficulties in a dispassionate way. Expectations in the early years of marriage are shaped in part by a person's conception of the roles of husband and wife. Spouses bring to marriage their own special notions that are often derived from their own familiar experiences. People do not nessessarily copy their parents in deciding how a husband and wife should behave.
What role to you take in your marriage? Are you the one that always brings the hammer down? Or do you both set the standards and rules in the marriage equally? Is it truly healthy to decide that only one spouse should wear the pants in the family and be the final judge in all decision, or do you think it should be an equally thought our process between the two of you? Do you sit back and just desire to be a decision maker, or do you put your foot down and demand to be heard, and have the ability to make decisions also? Are society thru hundred and hundreds of years states the man wears the pants, where does that leave a woman...and in this day and age of supposed equality...do you fight for your right...or fall into the pattern of old standards, perhaps set forth by your mother and her mother before her? Who makes the rules in your marriage?
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@LadyK2 (71)
• United States
23 Jun 07
First off - I absolutely LOVE this post! It is very eye-opening to see marriage in a way most people never do.
My husband and I share many aspects of our marriage. All decisions are made by the both of us - we'll discuss something and if he or I say well, I'll leave it to you, then we know that we trust the other's judgement. We make sure we've heard each other's input and weighed everything before making a final decision.
My husband is employed, I am a stay home mom and I homeschool my kids. We used to both work at full time jobs and while it brought in more income, we rarely saw our kids. We made that decision together - after several months of discussion - and have been much happier for the past 3 years.
We discuss our finances, our childrens' education, dinner, what to do for the weekend, everything. We are a very involved couple and family.
We realise not all people are like this - and we're far from perfect. We've had our battles like all married couples w/children. But we're bound to each other, and we are determined to make our marriage work by working together. Bound and determined - if only more couples were, there'd be far fewer divorces/splits.
JMO
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
23 Jun 07
My marriage is a very individualized thing. What I mean by that is that every rule in my marriage with my husband is our own, that we have discussed and agreed up together. In fact, before we got married, he had to convince me that our marriage would be our own creation, and not the same as other marriages I had seen, because I had seen almost solely bad ones within my family and such.
I don't think there is one of us that is more likely to make rules or decisions. I know sometimes I don't make as many decisions about everyday stuff as he does, just because I don't always feel up to it emotionally, though I'm working on that. However, when it comes to the big things, everything is done together. I would never be in a relationship that I didn't consider equal like that, though I know people who are happy in relationships that I wouldn't accept. I guess it all comes down to the people involved and their needs.
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@sweetmimzim3 (261)
• United States
23 Jun 07
It's great that your marriage doesn't fall into that stereotypical male dominated relationship!! Congratulations to you both for a healthy marriage! Yours should be an example to others on how to do it correctly.
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@sweetmimzim3 (261)
• United States
24 Jun 07
I agree...my exes family has a male dominated roles in family...and the way his father commands the household and everyone bows down to every demand really sickens me. I could never be in a relationship where I felt I didn't have a voice. It would depress me beyond ends. It is a part of their religious beliefs...I will not name religions but they think a man makes all decisions about everything. Times have changed, we no longer live in the dark ages or frontier times. A woman is a human being with feelings and needs and only when she is allowed to express herself will a marriage truly be a happy one.
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@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
24 Jun 07
I really like how you have stated this concept of marriage. I am not now married but can really appreciate what you are saying when I relate it to my previous marriages (2). You seem to have a handle on how to make a marriage work for the long term after all the newness wears off.
I don't see why both partners can't make up their own set of rules and allowances. I would think that a healthy marriage would be created by both partners interacting equally. Some of the old standards might work for some, but times have somewhat changed. And what works for one cpouple in a marriage might not work for others. I think it is best to throw out the "rulebook" or at least rewrite it to fit the personalities of the couple.
Understanding and acceptance has to be part of the relationship. And there has to be some daily ackowledgement from both parties that the relationship is working or needs some fixing. Nurturing the relationship should be a daily affair. Letting things go on and hoping for a natural fix is asking for disaster down the road. I think if you can discuss anything or any problem, large or small, with your partner without fear, you will be successful. I think that couples are afraid to speak their minds for fear of being ridiculed or rejected. That leads to all kinds of pent up feelings that can turn a marriage into a nightmare.
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@sweetmimzim3 (261)
• United States
24 Jun 07
I have been in a marriage where communication was not there, and it lead to alot of pent up resentment, and when I did speak my mind it didn't come out constructivly and I was ridiculed for my reactions. I think you really need to know you can trust your emotions and feelings with your partner before marriage takes place rather then find out later and end up divorcing.
@sweetmimzim3 (261)
• United States
25 Jun 07
Yes I do understand what you are saying. I have talked to people from different countries and it is hard to understand the different use of words and terms. I will do my best to make sure that my future articles are world friendly. I forget that this site is a worldwide site and not just USA. Good luck learning English!
@mariphill88 (21)
• United States
24 Jun 07
The rules of marriage are the obvious ones which we agree to follow the day we are married. To love, honour, and obey, etc, with some modifications allowed.
The rules change as each marriage progresses. One marriage has children, from the start. The wife stays home to care for the child/ren and the husband begins his career. They pay attention to their budgeting, or get early problems if they don't. There is usually a lot of family support as there are grandchildren. Once the child is in school, personal preferences emerge. Hopefully, some of these things have been talked out and planned, pre=marriage, and as the child grows. Staying in touch, and communicating effectively is important. One spouse may want to exercise authority because he/she brings home the paycheck. There is no communication about the budget and a lot of blame. This causes resentment, and a personal sense of failure which couples have to rally together to overcome. If they do this in the beginning, there isn't a problem.
Some couples begin as friends with ideas about their lives, and there is the give and take, although there is the beginning rational foundation of "In my life, I want to..." and listening to their partner's answer the same. This gives each other an idea of the region they want to live, the time they want to devote to the thing they want, how important homelife is, and how considerate they can be with their spending/saving, devoting to their home, etc.
A good age is early twenties, and once you've found someone you can do this with, you've got a partner.
There is the give and take. You want to work one year, his business is just getting successful, and it would be a madhouse if you left the house everyday for full=time work of your own. There are compromises. Assist a family with their children, get a part=time job (too much competition), take lessons and become really good at something. Redecorate the house on a minimal budget. Plant an edible garden. Another year, you want to begin a project, and the roles are shifting. You need to rediscuss your plans, being gentle and considerate. There are always the human factors. He needs you, and you have to take a year off. You need transportation to a place with no public transportation, and he spends six months taking you someplace, cramming in the time to do this, until he knows the route as well as you. Seldom is there a fight for rights, it's a give and take.
If the person doesn't have a give and take, and there is a fight, it's time for a readjustment. One can take a vacation, or have a family discussion. There has to be room to grow and change, or fights will take place. I did fight once over a movie I really wanted to see, after being snowed in all winter. We'd talked for weeks about seeing this, and the evening of the movie, he said "I'd rather not go". I stood my ground, (near the doorway, because I was going) and said "We are going, we are definitely going." Not, when will be a good time, will the weekend be a better time, etc. And a walk around the block wouldn't do it either. I wanted to see the movie, which we did. It was a musical, and he couldn't stop smiling, he loved it as mad as he was. It was "Evita" and was very nice. Never again did I insist, and I was reminded a few times, as one weekend I really wanted to stay home and rest, and he wanted to visit friends, a ten hour drive, stay the night, and drive home. I happily agreed. He asked into the next state, "Aren't you mad? I know you want to stay home." He wanted an argument, or some type of discussion. I wasn't mad, a little tired, with little preparation, although I liked the weather and it was a nice trip. I met some really interesting people, and we stopped places I'd never seen. It takes so much of your own dreams and lives, I think in only the critical things, moral and/or legal, do you need to think about your ancestors.
The rules are made as you become a couple, and the first few mistakes you keep to yourself, and learn as if you were with a favorite person. I think a man would collapse if he were always in charge, and walk out or move on. It takes two. If you haven't used this approach, begin discussions with simple topics.
Once you've developed a pattern of discussions, take up a topic which used to cause concern, and if he can't take the situation, go to a topic you both enjoy, and ask him to please think about it. Stay friendly, have a good discussion, and in about a week, he should get back to you. Give him some good praise for communicating, and remembering you and bothering to figure it out, etc. You can find a way to communicate.
@sweetmimzim3 (261)
• United States
24 Jun 07
Everyone has those moments when they feel for whatever reason that they just have to do what they want to do (whether it being locked in all winter or etc). It is the relationships that don't have the give and take and tolerance for anothers needs that fails. It takes two to make it work...and it takes patience and time. No one truly knows what it will be like until they live with a person day in and day out. You could date for 10 years and find out you can't stand living together. It is the people that compliment each others personalities that make ideal relationship, living together, and marriages. Too many differences in opinions or likes and dislikes can lead to a very rocky and tumultuous situation.
@sweetmimzim3 (261)
• United States
25 Jun 07
The rules I was suggesting is the rules society puts forth for a standard...not nessesarily something we follow...but our culture and society states as a norm. If no one makes the rules in your marriage then how are decisions made?
@LadyK2 (71)
• United States
23 Jun 07
First off - I absolutely LOVE this post! It is very eye-opening to see marriage in a way most people never do.
My husband and I share many aspects of our marriage. All decisions are made by the both of us - we'll discuss something and if he or I say well, I'll leave it to you, then we know that we trust the other's judgement. We make sure we've heard each other's input and weighed everything before making a final decision.
My husband is employed, I am a stay home mom and I homeschool my kids. We used to both work at full time jobs and while it brought in more income, we rarely saw our kids. We made that decision together - after several months of discussion - and have been much happier for the past 3 years.
We discuss our finances, our childrens' education, dinner, what to do for the weekend, everything. We are a very involved couple and family.
We realise not all people are like this - and we're far from perfect. We've had our battles like all married couples w/children. But we're bound to each other, and we are determined to make our marriage work by working together.
Bound and determined - if only more couples were, there'd be far fewer divorces/splits.
JMO
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@sweetmimzim3 (261)
• United States
23 Jun 07
I honesty believe there should be courses in high school that are manditory for kids to take on communication between men and woman for a healthy relationship. Communication is not just key in marriage but in every relationship we have in life and think our society would benifit from children taking manditory classes in this subject.