Predestination is true!
By kimfitts
@kimfitts (66)
United States
June 25, 2007 11:52am CST
There are many verses to support predestination throughout the Bible, yet no where do I see "free will". Why do so many people believe in it? It is because it is part of the apostasy. It is a false doctrine. The "whosoever" doctrine is not true. The word for "whosoever" in the original Greek simply means "the all". John 3:16 was a verse written about the Gentiles coming into the church. The rest of the book helps to explain that it will only be those that are called by God, who will be born again. See John 1:13, John 3:27, John 5:21, John 6:44, John 6:37-40, John 6:63-65, John 15:16, John 15:19.
2 responses
@vivienna (582)
• Venezuela
25 Jun 07
Dear kimfitts,
of course you can interpret Bible in the sense that reformed calvinsm does: predestination and as you're so convinced, you probably aren't very much interested in a real discussion of the poing.
But please think twice before calling the belief in "free will" apostasy. Or would you call "trinity" and apostasy because the word isn't in the Bible? Did you forget that what matters is the Spirit of the Word, not the mere letter? You yourself are using a good hermeneutic principle when looking for the destinatataries of John's Gospel in order to find out what the author wanted to make clear.
Predestination and its history in theology are an interesting
@vivienna (582)
• Venezuela
25 Jun 07
Dear kimfitts,
of course you can interpret Bible in the sense that reformed calvinsm does: predestination and as you're so convinced, you probably aren't very much interested in a real discussion of the poing.
But please think twice before calling the belief in "free will" apostasy. Or would you call "trinity" and apostasy because the word isn't in the Bible? Did you forget that what matters is the Spirit of the Word, not the mere letter? You yourself are using a good hermeneutic principle when looking for the destinatataries of John's Gospel in order to find out what the author wanted to make clear.
Predestination and its history in theology are an interesting topic, but not a matter of heresy, apostasy or salvation. The belief of Luther, Wesley and so many other distinguished men and churches, differs from yours, but that doesn't make it apostasy. Above of all, there is a difference between an apology
