I have been watching tv today. Its unusual that i do but have seen something

as i read your reply I started to think. Are these kind of Exhibitionist television programmes a result of the greater levels of isolation and privatisation in real life. As individualism increases, the need for communal sharing is perhaps fulfilled through this media. Just another example of how we have moved away from notions of community?

yes, i see. War as communal action? well yes why not. I was reading a guy called Norbert Eleise who argued that society, although generally moving forward also has periods of retrogressive development. He calls the decivilizing spurts, where not only do we go against our own nature but also against the stabelising structures we have createt. He sees football hooliganism as a result of this. Also, I would sugexst the telivised ripping open of our souls is also part of this blessed be

Yes, I can agree with this and I think the retro. development is implanted in each and every individual and this might well be related to hypnotic procedures such as propaganda. For instance, there is talk of Orwell's big brother manifesting now - taking his story as symbolic (not so much as physically having spy cameras in everybody's home), I think big brother was already active when he actually wrote 1984 otherwise where did he get his ideas from. I think also is the propagandists themselves hardly know what they are doing, themselves having been subjected to other propaganda. Society was "guided" to think the thoughts of those running it, who thought they weren't running it. So who was the boss? I don't think it was anybody - just "silent hypnotism" stretching back into history the keeps the economy of each nation ticking over. Anybody who questions this system, would be seen a freak and maybe outcast. Then all this complex process seems to be pointing to one thing. A hypnotic suggestion that commands us to - Find a "team" and put your health/life/wealth at risk for it - but whatever you do, don't wake up and realise you are being conned! I think there is a little awareness of this "con" and every now and again, someone sees something and then through the Jungian group consciousness "transmits" it to like-minded persons and what happens.. Violence - destroy the thing that is conning us, problem is it IS us! We are doing it to ourselves. As within, so without. This is what I was trying to put across in a poem I submitted here a while back - I don't know if you read it or not, but here's the URL - http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1109151.aspx And yes, I agree with you that we are manifesting these qualities in our participations of these TV shows.

hey i have wondered why this happens but just why these people do it is way beyond me

This is exactly right. I too know exactly who and what i am. It just strikes me as really odd that some people seem to glory in their time on tv blessed be

i think its disturbing that people choose to share often intimate details with the baying masses. It is a dambing indictment of the human condition that people not only feel the need to expose themselves in this way but also that some very sad individuals watch it blessed be

seeing these people ripping each other in bits just struck me as very verry sad, i do also wonder why people watch them . Apparently a lot of these programmes are highly rated blessed be

i rarely see tv and was quite shocked with how many of these sort of programmes are on tv. It looked like the ampitheatre in Rome watching people being ripped apart by wild beasts