After you Sir/Madame...Oh Thanks!
By kamran12
@kamran12 (5526)
Pakistan
June 28, 2007 8:51pm CST
I experience a gesture here where I live. People always seem to give priority to others. While entering an office, a market or a restaurant, they will open the door and will stand there for the person coming behind them to enter first. On bus or tram stops they will wait for other person to get on board. When driving and coming on cross road, people try others get through first.
Is that what happens mostly where you live or is it a rare sight or none at all?
What do you think, is it a nice gesture or a simple waste of precious time?
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8 responses
@tmlnmr (1850)
• Canada
29 Jun 07
Where I am I often do that. I will always hold the door for someone with children or for the elderly and such but will also just hold the door for whoever is behind me at times. Sadly not always! Most people here don't really do that but then again it is rare that there is actually someone behind you when entering a building. I have held the door for people and one of the males of the group have stayed behind and let me go in first. It does happen but not nearly as much as it should! :)
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
9 Jul 07
Courtesy seems to be fading into the past here in the States. I was raised to respect my elders, give up my seat to them, open doors for them, etc. And women were treated with more respect then than now.
When I was growing up we would not walk in another person's yard without permission, whether they had a fence or not. I see people walking across other folks' lawns or through their yards so much that they make a path in the grass.
There are still a few people who remember to be respectful to others. But there are fewer than in the past. I think the lack of respect is what leads us to violence.
Let's bring back respectful behavior, concern for others, and plain old courtesy.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
9 Jul 07
Hello youdontsay!:-)
You have highlighted some very interesting and important points here.
while on one hand humans seems to be uniting over global ethics and working towards social parities among nations, on the other hand we are perhaps decadent on individual level. It seems to be a global problem, every culture I have been into or have read about is going on down slope on the matter of ethics. Probably we are redefining ethics themselves, probably we are even redefining there usefulness.
I see a lot of emphasis on being professionally ethical but at the same time there is less stress on being personally or individually ethical. Slogans like freedom of speech, action and choice sometimes seem to pierce the hearts of others. I am not sure if we are developing or degenerating; I am not sure if we are integrating or causing fragmentation.
I can only say that I have hope that we will learn by trial and error and will evolve ourselves to yet a higher level of ethics.
Thanks for sharing your views:-)
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
9 Jul 07
It's a shame we don't learn better from history instead of having to make the same mistakes over and over.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
18 Mar 08
We have to go a long way in this matter here. There is hardly any order in the public places. It is always me first and free for all. Ladies are not given preference and are pushed aside mercilessly as people get into the buses. It all have to start from the school. But our politicians are much happy with the special privileges they get where ever they go and satisfied with their lying big mouths.
you can see what is happening here in the image.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
19 Mar 08
Hello balasri,
You are so right that it has to start from schools. Politicians, everywhere, are more about getting benefits than doing what they are elected for or given the job. I think that a concerted effort from Parents, teachers and the government is required to bring about 'mind shift' where others are given priority. Government, and politicians, have an important role to play in providing for, and encouraging, sufficient transport so that every one doesn't feel 'packed up' in buses. Thank you for sharing the image and your response!:-)
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@tammyr (5946)
• Etowah, Tennessee
9 Jul 07
I will open the door for others. I think it is just a nice thing to do. I have seen many others do this as well.
But on the road... well that is another story. The same person that will hold open the door for someone, will cut them off when driving! I don't understand this at all!
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
9 Jul 07
Hello tammy!:-)
you have an interesting observation about the people who hold the door open for others but cut on roads. I too see some conflicting attitudes, I wonder what to make of them. I think it has to do with the evlving sense of ethics perhaps which may not be as it should be.
Thanks for sharing and I am glad to see you back on here. I see you come less often these days!?
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
19 Mar 08
This kind of courtesy makes the world a gentler place. And, goodness knows, we need more gentleness in our world.
However, at least in cities, this seems to be less and less popular. People get so goal focused that they forget that the quality of the journey will determine the value of the goal when they reach it.
Thoughtfulness, courtesy with others could heal a lot of what ails us.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
20 Mar 08
Hello youdontsay!:-)
I see that you had already responded to this discussion but your respect for values, people and ethics is unwavering and consistent, which I truly appreciate about you.
You have a very good point about quality of journey determining the value of goal. I truly wish that people do pay attention to what makes us human rather than machines that we have relegated ourselves to. Thanks again for another enlightening response!:-)
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@UBiquitous (195)
• Pakistan
16 Mar 08
well,this is a very common thing that usually happens with all of us :) but really i didnt noticed this thing or never thought to make it in a shape to start a topic with it .Good work kamran !!!
umm,i always give preference to others to go first,i dunt know but even when we are rushing in to the class or bus to have a front seat i feel strange people start running for those things neglecting others.
I dont remember that even once i did like this,i welcome others to come first even knowing that for that i will have to suffer in to the bus waiting for other guys to give to seat.
But in teacher's case i myself respect them a lot by all means,whenever a teacher is there you should give them first priority.
One of my teachers told me that,
If you are walking and your teacher is walking behing you,you should stop until he overtakes you and allow himj to walk before you as he is tour teacher :)
And if you cant walk behind them,then if you are walking with them,you should keep a little an inch difference atleast while walking with them,just keeping this thing in your mind hez your teacher and he should be a inch but before you:) and believe me if you keep this thing with you,you will be successful in life in every way.your teachers will respect you twice you respect them :)
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
16 Mar 08
I thought I would ask people to know more about their cultures about this thing!
You are a very respectful person, UBiquitous, I really appreciate that. I do try to walk a little behind my teachers, parents and elders just as a matter of respect. Though, here, people don't believe in such things, still I do it for my own self! Thanks for sharing!:-)
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
17 Mar 08
Yes, it should be avoided!:-)
Here, teachers are more like friends, but I do try to keep them a level well above myself. For example, like in Urdu, there is a difference of formal and informal address to second person i.e. like 'Aap' and 'Tum' in Urdu are 'Vous' and 'Tu' in French. I always address my professor with 'Vous', while others address him with 'Tu'. But, I must also tell you that saying 'vous' is sometimes not considered healthy with someone you are close since it's formal.
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@UBiquitous (195)
• Pakistan
17 Mar 08
Ya the culture thing is obviously involvled in your basic manners :) and i gues in every religion in every culture,teachers are given due respect by all means.:)
And believe me kamran,if we give them respect the world respects you twice,and once you start passing pranks on them then your downfall starts.
No i am not a respectable person now atleast after entering in to the university,i myself put pranks on my teachers after the class ,laugh on the way they teach,some of them are really respectable but along with other friendz you know you flow with the crowd.I am good with memicery and now as i have started doing memicery of certain teachers,and my friendz start praising me for that and start making fun of teachers,here the downfall starts and i am no doubt suffering since 2 3 months for that :_s
Although we do repect teachers infront of them and give the, due respect out of the class ,but among friendz we just make fun of them,this should be avoided as much as one can do.
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@elizajane202 (159)
• United States
9 Jul 07
I love this gesture, especially when a man/boy does this. We grew up like this and now the hubby and I have taught our son to do this very thing. I'm shocked when someone doesn't do this due to my hubby and son always doing it. Living near a military base I see this happening all the time, not sure if it is a military thing or if others do it.
@CoffeeAnyone (3210)
• Canada
11 Jul 07
My husband opens the door for me almost always no matter where we are. He does it for others too and so do I when I am out about and the situation arises that I can and should hold the door for someone. I do find however that this type of courtesy is not happening as much as it use to in past years. I have seen old women and men have to stand on a bus while young men and women sit. This is unacceptable to me! Our world could use keeping these courtesies don't you think?
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
11 Jul 07
I am glad CoffeeAnyone, that you and your husband are very courteous. I share your observation that courtesy doesn't seem to be practiced as much as it was there in my youth or childhood. I have replied in detail to #3 and have expressed my views that is It really surprises me that at one end we seem to progress but on the side of ethics we probably are decadent.
Thanks for sharing your views:-)
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