Thinking too much to sleep!
By Leca
@lecanis (16647)
Murfreesboro, Tennessee
July 5, 2007 11:25pm CST
I'm sure everyone's been there, those nights when you know you should be sleeping but you just can't because there's so much on your mind! I'm having one of those tonight, hence still being on mylot when I should be snoozing away happily.
The things I have on my plate for next week:
1)My son has an EEG test on Monday to check about his seizures
2)I have a neurologist's appointment on Tuesday about my Meniere's disease
3)I have a neurotologist's appointment on Thursday in the next state over for my Meniere's disease, which will require I leave Wednesday with a kind soul giving me a ride and stay overnight
4)Next weekend is my friends' annual "after the 4th" celebration, which takes place at my friend's family's cabins at Lake Superior and lasts all weekend.
5) I have to get my short-term disability insurance straightened out through work so that I can get paid!
All this on top of having had vertigo issues for weeks straight now, and trying to just make it moving around my apartment! It makes it very hard to think clearly, and yet I can't stop thinking! So I'm sitting here on mylot in the middle of the night, turning my chair slowly back and forth a little so that the computer looks like it's sitting still! lol
Anyone else up in the middle of the night tonight, or have worries that keep you from sleeping? Anyone else find they think too much when they really should be resting and leaving the thinking for clearer moments?
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23 responses
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
6 Jul 07
Yikes you do have a lot on your mind---I guess I've gotten good about putting things off my mind until the actual "event" that I might have to look forward to...That is I'll be fine until maybe just the night before something big is coming up...so in the meantime then I'm not restless with too much on my mind--then when the night before something is planned that is important or worrisome or anxiety producing I may not always sleep well but I just really try to go into a calm relaxed state anyway and have actually gotten good about keeping my mind completely blank rather than having my mind work full tilt and in circles...so I may not sleep but it's like I'm in a meditative state...I mean don't ask how frazzled and completely unglued I could've been the night before my mom and I had to appear at court last year...But I guess it was the realization that chronically thinking about it and worrying wasn't going to get me anywhere--just panicky and who needed that? Like I said, I guess I've trained my mid well--LOL
I saw one responder who mentioned something about bailey's cream --hehe...sometimes what I do is fix a nice cup of mint tea, with lemon and a few drops of brandy....works like a charm too...LOL
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Jul 07
Hehe, waking up with my face in a book is something I've done before, and it's not so comfy. =p
It is awesome the way you're turning things around for yourself though! =)
Right now with everything I've been going through, I've found myself in a bit of rough shape, but I'm trying to be positive. So far I have a couple of major good things that are coming out of my illness:
1) Getting to spend more time with my son and husband over the past few weeks, since I've been off work.
2) Learning to cook! Since my doctors have me on this really restricted diet, I can't eat just whatever anymore, and so I'm actually having to do a lot of cooking, and get creative with it! I've never really been a cook before, but my husband is helping me a lot, and people with similar health problems to mine on websites are giving me lots of excellent ideas! Of course I have to be very careful (I have a chair in the kitchen and everything close at hand so I don't fall) but it's great that I'm learning something new, and enjoying it a lot! =)
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
6 Jul 07
Well even just plain mint tea with the lemon is good too...and sometimes curled up in bed drinking it while reading helps...I used to read an awful lot before going to sleep...maybe proves how much more anxious I used to be...and then drift off to sleep..Now I have the opposite problem...I sometimes really WANT to read a lot...and I start off fine...but fall asleep before I get to do any quality reading done...I wake up with the book smashed up on my face...LOL
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
6 Jul 07
Oh I love to cook...I didn't start doing serious cooking until a little after graduating college and I must have inherited my great-grandmother's flair for cooking...certainly not my grandmother and really not my mother..if she could, she would have burned water..LOL
What kinds of foods are you allowed? Maybe I have some good recipes that you could use and could PM them to you :-)
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
6 Jul 07
I am up right now and its 12.50am. Over the last week I have not been able to sleep around my normal time which is usually between 9.30-10.30pm. My husband is away so I am finding it hard to sleep. Earlier on in the week I stayed up all night watching movies (4 of them) and slept some of the day away. Even last night I went to bed at 3pm but tossed and turned for an hour then sat back up and read a book.
I don't really have much going on in my life except that I do worry that I have not been a good mother this past week... because of the late nights I have been nodding off during the day and not spending much time with my son, who by the way will be starting Kindergarten in September and I need to get him ready for that. I am also peeved that I lost my bag of coffee I bought today ... I know its ONLY coffee but still, thats $$ down the drain.
You have a lot more to worry about and no wonder you can't sleep. I would be the same way too. I hope everything works out for you lecanis!
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Jul 07
*nods* Having your husband away can make a big difference in such things! Since my husband works nights, I've become used to sleeping without him, but on nights when he would normally be off and isn't, it still drives me nuts!
It's funny how little it takes to make us worry about being a bad mom, isn't it? I often have those kinds of thoughts myself, over insignificant things most of the time! Right now with my health being what it is, I've been really struggling to try to spend time with my son, and I think it's a huge deal but he's just a happy little boy and doesn't mind at all when I'm not up to playing, as long as I give him love! =)
Eh, losing things is very annoying. Even when it's something cheap or not a huge deal, it makes you feel dumb and cheated. Or at least that's how it makes me feel! =p
Thanks for all your kind words, and for sharing with me tonight! =)
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Jul 07
Aww he sounds like such a sweet little boy! =)
I'm already starting to feel like mine isn't so little anymore, and he's only 13 months old! It's just amazing to me how many things he can do and how big he is! Just a few days ago he was barely walking at all, and now he seems to want to run everywhere! And he's saying so many words that I just want to burst with pride! It's so exciting watching them learn new things!
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
6 Jul 07
My son is the same way too. He is also a happy child. I told him tonight before he went to bed, to wake me up when he gets up and he says "I'll be ok mom, I know how to look after myself and make my own breakfast" LOL My little boy is no longer little, but still, I do feel somewhat guilty.
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
6 Jul 07
I have had this problem for some time now, I have trouble sleeping and I also have anxiety attacks, I have tried a few of the usual things people suggest for this but just last week someone suggested I have just a little bit of Baileys Irish Creme in milk before I go to bed and you know what...I have not had one anxiety attack since and I get out of bed in the morning and it hardly looks like I had ever been in it usually my bed looks like a cylone hit it...and may I add the Baileys is a nice thing to have as far as taste is concerned...hmmmm yummy.
@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
6 Jul 07
hmmm I love it too and it seems tomake you feel warm and fuzzy... :)
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
6 Jul 07
Yumm I like Baileys. Its been a long time since I tasted that! Hmm something to think about LOL
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@kitchenwitchoftupper (2290)
• United States
6 Jul 07
You are so not going to like the answer that I am going to give you, dear heart. The computer is loaded with Energy! And a very high frequency Energy at that. As long as you are sitting there and absorbing the energy it is making it more difficult for you to fall asleep and giving your brain more activity. That is why doctors always recommend that you read when you can't sleep. Books don't emit any energy. It took forever to get one of my adult daughters to turn off the TV in her bedroom. She truly believed that if she just turned the volume down she would sleep better but after 2 years of me telling her to turn it off - the energy was keeping her awake, finally a doctor (white coat, name tag, and large bill) told her the same thing and guess what? - she now sleeps! ~Donna
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@sunshinecup (7871)
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6 Jul 07
Kitchenwitch-"As long as you are sitting there and absorbing the energy it is making it more difficult for you to fall asleep and giving your brain more activity. "
That is so true! Took me a couple of years to figure that one out for myself. I hate to go further, but mylot and other forums are the worse as well. They tend to not only get the brain going, but stir up your emotions as well. :o(
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
Oh, Donna, you big mean disillusioner! *giggles* =p
You have a really good point here, and I know next time I have trouble sleeping I should just get off my dumb computer and go read a book! Or meditate, which is what finally wound up putting me to sleep for a couple hours at least.
Sometimes for me I think instead of solving the problem I just want to be a brat and wallow in it! I promise I'll shape up and do the right thing instead next time! On the upside, I didn't stay up on the computer all night last night, though I was up and down a couple of times checking on food I was cooking for today! (Me and my new cooking kick!)
I think it's funny how your daughter had to pay a doctor large amounts of money to tell her what her mom was telling her anyway, if only she had listened! Some people should just learn to listen to their mothers, eh? Or in my case, perhaps her mother too. =p
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
Oh, sunshinecup, you have an excellent point about forums! Not only do they get your thoughts and feelings stirred up, but they're just too addicting! Once I get on mylot, it's so hard to get off even if I feel like I might be ready to go to sleep then! =p
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
6 Jul 07
happens to me all the time.my mind is racing,thinking of everything but sleep.
i'll usually get up and work on something,or mylot,til i finally get sleepy.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Jul 07
That's pretty much my plan right now. If I can't sleep, I might as well be doing something, eh? And lying in bed never seems to help, it just makes it worse. So I'm here on mylot and I have some pretty sleep-inducing type music playing, so hopefully soon I'll feel more calm!
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Jul 07
Yup, headphones are useful! =p
I don't have to worry about waking anyone because my husband is at work, and my son is asleep in the other room in his crib. If it weren't such sleepy music I'd be afraid it'd bother him, but we often play light music for him when we're trying to get him to go to sleep anyway, so it's not likely to be a problem. =)
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
6 Jul 07
exactly.i hate flopping around in bed like a fish.
tunes is a good idea.i'd be doing that too,but i don't want to wake mom.i need headphones LOL
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@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
7 Jul 07
Don't worry, Lecanis. I use to pass through this, sometimes. You know, we get our mind loaded of things, start to think about life and things we will do... Sometimes, things we have to do... And, at other times, things we HAD to do but we didn't. It's a common thing, I think. You'll get used to it, if it keeps happening to you.
Do not forget that spending the night awake is not very good for your health. You know you should get some sleep, but it's just so hard, isn't it?
I'm sorry I can't give you any extreme tip to help you.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
*nods* You're right about spending the night awake not being good for my health! How frustrating when health concerns are what keep me up! =p
Thanks for your kind response! I did get better sleep last night, and I'm hoping it will continue. =)
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@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
10 Jul 07
I'm glad you managed to get some sleep. Have you tried out spending all your energy during the day, so by the night you won't have enough energy to think?
Yes, I'm serious. Run a lot, sweat, go play, work hard, do things that will take your breath out! Then, you take that relaxing shower, and you'll seem ok. You won't notice you lost all your energy, only at night, when you have to sleep.
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@sunshinecup (7871)
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6 Jul 07
Yes I have insomnia quit often, the best way to describe it is, I can't shut my brain up. It just keeps going. I try breathing exercises and everything. One trick I learned that works sometimes is to picture a blank chalkboard and nothing else. I stay focused on it and force my mind to stay with it. Next thing I know it's morning. However some nights, that doesn't even work then I am up and down all night long.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
It can be such a hard thing to deal with! It sounds like you've found a nice method, but too bad it isn't always working for you! I have a few methods myself as well, but nothing that works every time, and it's usually when I need sleep the most (when there's a lot going on) that the problem is worse! Vicious cycle that! =p
@racheld (840)
• United States
6 Jul 07
I'm in the same boat you are. I haven't been able to sleep for three straight hours in the past three weeks. I have a lot on my plate as of right now too...
- My dad got diagnosed with Esophageal cancer three days before my birthday
- My mom has a rare, severe case of eczema and the stress is just making things worse
- My boyfriend and I broke up, he moved out of our condo and now I'm stuck paying a mortgage that takes up an entire paycheck.
- I have a full time job AND I'm a full time college student AND I freelance write brochures and articles for extra money
- I barealy have enough money to pay for my bills at the end of the month and I owe my parents almost $2000.
I definitely have too much going on right now. My parents think I'm in a state of depression, but I know its just stress. I know I have a lot to do right now but my priorities are equal. I don't want to cut back on my college classes because I want to graduate, I can't NOT take care of my dad or help out my mom because thats just out of the question. Because of all this, I have not gotten one good nights sleep for the past three weeks at least. I've even taken tylenol PM and have been awake within a matter of 2 hours. I've actually considered going to a therapist, as suggested by my parents, but thats another thing I would have to try and find time for. Not to mention, money I don't have. So therefore, I just vent to mylot memebers like you!! :)
Hope you and I, and everyone else responding to this get a good nights sleep soon!!
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
Wow, that is a lot to deal with, racheld! I'm so sorry to hear that you're going through such a hard time right now as well, and I'll keep you and your family in my thoughts. =)
I use mylot for therapy as well sometimes, it just helps so much to have someone to talk to! I've found that coming on here and putting what I'm thinking and feeling into words makes it so much easier for me at times. I also have considered getting into therapy (or back into therapy in my case) but right now it's just out of the question! Still, with the help of some really awesome online friends, as well as a few offline ones, I'm making it!
I hope that things work out well for you, and that you get a break soon! Sounds like you need it!
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
6 Jul 07
Hello lecanis!:-)
I hope that everything on your plate get resolved the way you want it to be resolved or I would say that they get resolved the better way as sometimes the better way is different than what we think is:-)
As for me, I have this phenomena going on in my life ever since I had conscience and it's getting more and more so as I accumulate things along my way. Ironically, I think that I have the best peace of mind thanks to all wonderful people around me. My own family, extended family, friends (offline and online), colleagues and neighbors are all comforting and wonderful people, giving me enough peace and calm that theoretically I can lay whenever I feel like.
But there are other realities in life. There is much going on around the world to steal my sleep. I don't get much sleep now, especially ever since my family left, but even if I straighten myself up on the bed when I feel like sleeping, I can't. Images come to my mind and my brain is staggered up. When I thank GOD that I finally managed to come to sleep, I see images of many homeless people in my country of origin and elsewhere, who were struck by a devastation and have been out in shear cold without any heating available. It gets more troublesome when it rains there. They can't sleep of cold and only sleep for little intervals when their brain and eyes can't take it anymore and sleep deprivation finally takes over the defiant cold. Many have been rehabilitated but some are still out there in cold, they can't sleep.
I see images of living skeletons in my country, in other parts of Asia, in Africa and some other parts of the world, who try to "pick" some food from garbage to kill their never ending hunger. Whose rib cages are so visible that one can easily count them and whose skin is touching their bones without any muscle in between. I cry on how much helpless I am in helping them and how selfish I am when I waste some food which is the maximum they can dream of. I feel myself strangled and suffocated that I am here on bed and doing nothing for them. Sometimes I try to appease myself by convincing myself that why I think when I can't do anything but it's surely not the answer, I look for.
I see falling bodies of victims of un called for wars going on around the world. Then I ask myself what I am doing to stop it? I look into eyes of a mother whose innocent child is killed for no good reason, whose eyes are full of questions as to why? why? why? I find myself miserable that she will never get the answers, her loss can never be compensated, her soul can never be calmed, her eyes probably can never have a spark of happiness and I find myself at loss of not been able to give that spark. I then wonder what I should be doing to stop this cycle so that there are no more mothers like her. I have to accept the bitter reality that I am helpless.
I have some petty problems of myself in my life that I think over, analyze and plan so as to do them efficiently. But when I come to know, see or I am told the problems of others I feel myself selfish to think of my own problems when I see the problems of others, much troublesome, annoying and frustrating than my own. Then I think 'are my problems really the problems' and the cycle restarts until my brain is no more able to 'think' and it gives itself up to fall victim to a selfish sleep.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
Kamran, thanks for your kind words here. I like how you said that things will resolve in the better way, which might be different than we think it is. Right now I have been so busy trying to make plans that I feel that is something I needed to be reminded of, so I thank you for it. =)
You have so many heavy thoughts here, it is hard to know what to say to them. There are so many things in the world to worry about, so many atrocities that happen everyday, and they haunt us all at times I think, though perhaps not everyone thinks on them as much as you do. I find myself often lost in those kinds of bigger issues as well, and it can be hard to live your everyday life knowing there is only so little that you can do.
In my case, I have found that doing even small things to help others helps me, but there are just so many situations that you cannot even touch or consider being able to change. You're really putting things into perspective for me here, thinking about this. I have been very caught up in my own problems lately, and now I'm once again thinking of them in terms of how to conquer them so that I can get back to the real work at hand, whatever little part I might be able to have in it.
@makingpots (11915)
• United States
6 Jul 07
Wow, you do have a lot on your plate right now. Best wishes to you on all that you have coming up.
I have been through times in my life when I couldn't sleep because I couldn't quite my mind. I finally decided to learn how to meditate and I highly recommend it for anyone who struggle to turn or at least slow down their mind. The very basic meditation to begin with is to focus on your breath. Count how long you take to breathe in, then out, pay attention to how full you are filling yourself with breathe and if you could stand to take in some more. In the begining it will be very hard and your mind continues to jump to other things. Just gently accept it as normal and return to counting your breathe. You get better with practice. You will gain a lot more energy from this exercise.
I wish you well with everything.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Jul 07
Thanks for all your kind words! I really appreciate it! =)
Actually I have been doing meditation for years now, and normally that would be where I'd turn in moments like this. I guess right now I'd honestly rather just have my little whiny freak-out first, and then do the real work towards getting myself in order later. Great advice though, thanks! =)
@makingpots (11915)
• United States
6 Jul 07
Lol
A good freak-out now and then is good too. ;)
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@zuiyirenjian (231)
• China
6 Jul 07
yeah...i often sleep very late in the evening...because of insomnia..i try many methods to change it better...but so far it seems not sucessful...and i feel to need nap at noon since i am weak....i will go to sleep early tonight..
God blesses
@Feona1962 (7526)
• United States
6 Jul 07
You sure do have a full schedule..I will be praying for you..I lay awake at night too! Sometimes it takes me hours to get to sleep..sometimes the things I worry about aren't that important..especially now that I see what you are worrying about..you take care of your son and yourself..hugs to you both..
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
Thanks so much for your prayers, those are always welcome! =)
I find sometimes too that I worry about things that aren't all that important really, but it's amazing how much the little things can get to you sometimes. I've been there before too!
I'm trying to take really good care of both of us! And my husband is doing a really good job of that as well of course! I have been blessed so far in that some of the problems I was expecting with getting to a specialist I need just worked themselves out! I just really want to get treatment so I can get back to work and be able to play with my little boy more too! And Dustin's tests are mostly just to be careful, so we're hoping they turn up that he's only having febrile seizures, which are scary but not that dangerous.
*hugs* Thanks so much for your kindness! =)
@Feona1962 (7526)
• United States
8 Jul 07
Sometimes the little things drive us crazy..You sound like you are doing well..Keep those appointments and be careful traveling...
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@vonn1378 (706)
• Philippines
6 Jul 07
There are times when a lot of things came up into my mind even I want to sleep. I think almost everybody are experiencing that. At times when it happens I would just watch movie to make me fall asleep. But often than not it doesn't work so I would just listen to mellow music and grab my pen and put all the things that pop into my mind. After writing those things and I felt that my hands are already tired, that's the time that I would fall into sleep...
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Jul 07
Thanks for sharing with me, vonn1378! I really appreciate it. =)
Perhaps writing by hand would be more relaxing than all this typing I've been doing! I am starting to get sleepy though, and I'm thinking perhaps in a few minutes I will try going to bed after all! =)
@kgwat70 (13387)
• United States
6 Jul 07
I definitely know how you feel and what you are going through. When I can not sleep, many times it is because I have a lot on my mind. I was having health problems of my own that worried so much that I got very little sleep. I would keep wondering what is wrong with me and if I was going to be okay. Having to go through a emg test, blood tests and an MRI would keep me up. I definitely think too much when in bed.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
Health problems I think are one of the most popular reasons to have problems sleeping, which is frustrating because of course not sleeping then makes your health worse. =p
Especially when you're in the testing phases for things, there's just so much stress over what is going to be found, what the diagnosis will be, how your life will change because of it! I hope that things come out well for you!
@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
7 Jul 07
This happens to me when I upset about something. Because I will think it to dealth. Then I cant get to sleep. Usually when Im on the computer it makes me sleepy.LOL Isnt that strange? You just have to shut down the brain think of something soothing and just lay in your bed and you will soon drift off to a wonderful sleep. Good night.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
I wish being on the computer would make me sleepy! I think usually when I come online when I'm having problems sleeping it makes it worse, because I get caught up in what I'm doing online! Too much of an addict I am. =p
Thanks for your response! =)
@beccacoward (525)
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6 Jul 07
My gosh hunny! It does sound like you have a lot to keep you up at night! I hope the EEG goes well, and the same for your appointments.. As for the celebration, it's supposed to be a celebration so try and enjoy it!
I tend to not sleep in increased times of stress, if I have work in, or personal problems it affects my sleep pattern awfully. I use lavender candles and pillow spray to make my room "sleepy" as well as hot drinks (not caffeinated, obviously) and winding down with a book is good - distracts you and tires out your mind!
I hope you get your pattern back fairly soon, love!
x
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
Yeah, it's pretty crazy here for me right now! It's so hard when more than one member of the family is having health problems at the same time!
The EEG is certainly going to be interesting! I've had them done myself before, but I'm an adult! The idea of trying to get a one-year-old to cooperate with such a test is kind of daunting! The week after next he's also having another test, but they have to put him under for that one, which is scary in and of itself, but at least makes the test easier. Hopefully they won't find anything, and it'll turn out just to be febrile seizures, but it's better safe than sorry since my husband and I both have history of seizures.
As for the celebration, I'll do my best to enjoy it! It's pretty much my friend group's biggest thing of the year, and it's been running several years now. So I can't miss it! =)
Thanks for sharing your techniques with me! I love lavender, but I don't currently have any on hand for some reason! I'll have to get myself some more! =)
@mikesgal4ever1999 (732)
• United States
7 Jul 07
Sometimes I think I am fine until I go to bed...as soon as my head hits the pillow, I get what I call the 'nighttime what-ifs' and my mind goes all directions. Causes me many a sleepless night. I try to relax and not think about things that will keep me from sleeping but sometimes its just not possible.
@321633wy (1795)
• United States
7 Jul 07
Oh gosh...i hate to be in that situation ,its extremely miserable !I used to have that problem of thinking too much and can't help my self not to think about it.....
Life is not easy,we have so much to deal with it is so tired and frustrated when i woke up in the middle of night and not be able to fall back in sleep....
Since after i took the multivitamin and B-complex i felt so much better now.To be honest with you since then i never have that problem no more .Although once in a while i do have some
personal issue but i still can very well .:)
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
7 Jul 07
I've had problems sleeping before on and off when in stressful situations, but it's never been too big a challenge in my life otherwise. So I guess I'm lucky in that, since some people have those problems all the time!
Right now it is just that I have so much going on, but with planning and a big dose of optimism things are starting to look as if they're going to work out. I slept well last night at least. =)