Homemaking
By nannacroc
@nannacroc (4049)
October 25, 2006 5:05am CST
Do you think people who choose to stay at home and look after their children should receive childcare fees. People are encouraged to leave their children with strangers and go to work, it's my belief that a child, at least to the age of five should be cared for by a parent. I'm sure many parents would choose to care for their own children and not go to work if the childcare fees were paid to all parents who could then choose to use them for childcare or for help in being able to afford to stay at home?
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@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
25 Oct 06
Well, being a stay at home mum myself, I have to agree with you. I don't think it's fair at all that people who choose to have kids and not look after them should have extra money to pay someone else to do their job. If someone has kids, it is their responsibility to look after them so yes, it's a job, the only truly full-time job and even if stay at home mums were given the same amount of money as some who get help with childcare, the amount would probably still work out at less that £1 an hour.
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@dorypanda (1601)
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25 Oct 06
I agree with the pumpkin one. I get annoyed when Mothers tell people they don't work, how can you NOT work when you look after children? I personally stayed at home with my son most of the time, occasionally I had the odd day or two when I worked the full day, and the occasional week where I worked the full week, but that's because there was no-one else to do it. At the time I HAD to work so as we had a decent amount of money coming in, and I couldn't get any help with child care costs, we were in the wrong category for that. Yes, I do think stay at home parents should get paid for looking after their kids, up until they're a certain age.
@mommygirlX4 (675)
• United States
7 Nov 06
I agree with everything that Pumpkinjam has said. I am a stay at home mom of 4 kids. I live in the United States. I was 16 when I had my first child and the government paid for her daycare while I finished school. When I graduated it stopped. I work full time made $180 a week and paid $85 a week for daycare. Then I got married and had baby number 2. If I would have kept working I would have made $180 and paid $170 in daycare. Now I would have to pay $340 a week. So it would cost me to go to work.
No we aren't rich and no my kids don't go without. My husband works his butt off to put a roof over our heads and food on the table and so I can stay at home with our kids.
Here in the US you get part of what you payout in childcare back on your taxes too.
I think it would be wonderful and very helpful to get part of that $17,000 that I would have to pay in childcare, for taking care of my kids instead of leaving it to someone else to take care of them.
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@anfisak (91)
• Canada
1 Nov 06
I totally AGREE with you!! If more parents stayed home with their children, kids would be better behaved and not get into so much trouble. Leaving our kids with a sitter, we just never know what the sitter will teach our kids!! Wouldn't it be better if the parent stayed home and taught their own kids how to behave and what not, than a sitter?
I am a single mom and wish all the time, that I was home with my kids instead of a sitter! When I am at home, I know what my kids are up to, but when I am at work, all I can do is but wonder. M
Most importantly the children need their parents at home than a stranger. Our kids need us and not some stranger telling and teaching them what to do and what not to do. Besides, our kids are going to be told and taught by alot of others, on what is right and what is wrong, what to do and what not to do, in the future, like for example; teachers.
So, yes, yes, yes! Our kids need us and the security that we can provide them, by being there for them when they need us the most.
Parents should go out on strike or something of the likes. We should sign a petition or something, inorder to get attention for stay-at-home parents (and parents who want to stay home and raise their own children) and get paid! This could could definatley change the course of our future and make a better life for our kids!
@nannacroc (4049)
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2 Nov 06
Thank you very much, you are one of the few people who understood what I was getting at and I agree with you entirely.
Obviously you are one of the people who have chosen to work through necessity and I was trying to make the point that mothers or fathers should make the choice because it was the right one for them.
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@nannacroc (4049)
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5 Nov 06
You're exactly the type of person I was thinking of. You should be able to make a choice that is best for you and if you received childcare costs when you stayed at home then you would have more freedom to make the right decision for you.
Thank you for your comment.
@anfisak (91)
• Canada
3 Nov 06
I don't have a choice at the moment, to stay home and care for my kids or to go to work. The father has disappeared and only calls when he feels like it, so there's no help from the other parent. I really wish that I could stay home, but I have to go out and work inorder to feed and shelter my children.
It's great that you had put up this subject for discussion. It's really nice to know that I am not alone in thinking like this.
Great going! Hope all this can resolve in the near future!
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
1 Nov 06
Reading the answers here suggests that Americans haven't really got the same notion of the Welfare State that we have here in Britain. I agree that it's not an easy concept if you are not brought up with it.
For the benefit of the non-British, everyone who works pays into National Insurance (which is quite substantial - around half as much again as Income Tax). This is used to pay for our free healthcare, partly free dental treatment and also to help pay the various benefits for which one becomes eligible if one is, unfortunately, out of work or on a low inclome. Some of these benefits can help to cover childcare for mothers who wish to work in order to supplement the family income. Sometimes working mums seem to work part time in order to have just enough money to pay for the childcare - which is a crazy situation!
I also believe that a child is better off cared for by family (not necessarily mum) up to the age of 3 or 4, at least. In many cultures it is accepted that the grandparents will do a lot of childcare but our culture has largely lost the 'extended family' ethos.
Whether the State should help to fund childcare at home is a difficult one. One could argue that a child has better and more secure early development when cared for by its mother and that this will tend to make for more stable and mature adults, thus reducing crime, increasing the level of education attained and thus the earning power and skills, also, very likely, having an effect on the general level of health in the community, so it would be an investment worth making.
The problem with this is that our Government is not truly interested in long-term investment. All that really matters is will they have enough plus points to show in order to win the next election! 15 to 20 years before an investment policy shows a return is far too long for most Governments, who can only expect to be in office for one or two terms (if they are lucky).
@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
1 Nov 06
That's all very true. My sisters and I were raised at home by our mum and we have gone on to raise our own children. Looking at some other people, it's obvious that it was the best thing all round.
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@nannacroc (4049)
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2 Nov 06
Thank you for an excellent answer and for , hopefully, clarifying the point I was trying to make.
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@micheller (1365)
• United States
1 Nov 06
never thought of that, but i totally agree with you. i think a child should be raised by their mother when their little.
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@redsarah (1)
• United States
31 Mar 09
I have two daughters, ages 10 and 7.I stayed home with them till my youngest was 5 and able to enter school.I chose this cause we are our childrens first examples in life.It was not always easy, my husband has always worked.Sometimes we scraped by but they are our future and they deserve every attention we can give to them. I work part time jobs while they are in school, as needed, to help finances.I dont aspire to be rich but I will be there when my lovely girls need me the most. I volunteer at their school and am very active in their education.I think that our influences are valuable enough to get paid.My payment will be when they have grown up to become responsible and respectable citizens.Some poeple have to work to take care of their own and some choose to.That doesn't necassarily make them bad parents but they need to realize their first priority should be their family.Careers are important but we choose to become parents and thats ranks above everything else, that's just my opinion.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
7 Nov 06
I think it would be worth it, actually, for tax payers to do such a thing.. Many felt that the tax marriage penalties and some other things of social orgs, actually encouraged lack of benefit for "family" whatsoever.. I'm not much for government programs for every thing in life, but this might not be bad :))
@nannacroc (4049)
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2 Nov 06
That is a good idea. I'm not sure but I think that used to happen in Britain but it was stopped because the rich didn't need it.
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
1 Nov 06
I know I am not going to be too popular for this but I feel, people choose what they want and if one wants to have children then she should stay home and look after her children and not expect to get paid...maybe the Government should spend more money and have new ideas on how everyone can live more comfortably so even the people without children and single people can live comfortably...
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@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
1 Nov 06
So you still don't get it? I didn't mean it had to be money, there are other ways of making it easier. Although, what the actual point is, is that if the government can manage to find money for people to dump their kids, why can't they find any for those who want to do the right thing? The truth is most working mums are greedy and aren't prepared to make sacrifices. I'm not saying all of them, just most. Families can live on only one wage, we just don't see why they should have to when the kids being looked after by their own parents aren't going to be the ones filling up the prisons in later life.
@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
1 Nov 06
While I agree that people choose to have children so they should look after them, I also know that the English governments idea of "helping people live more comfortably" is by practically forcing people into work. No offence, but I think you are another one who has missed the point. The government here is ALREADY spending money on helping mums get back to work as soon as their children are 6 months old, sometimes sooner, but they will do nothing to help mums stay at home.
@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
1 Nov 06
well I still don't think the Government should pay mothers to stay home, everyone has issues they wish they would get paid for....if you want children you should be prepared to look after them or don't have them...maybe they can make it cheaper for childcare but I still think if you chose to have babies then you have to be prepared to look after them...
@jennie2665 (683)
• United States
9 Nov 06
I never thought of that, but that would be great. The only way people can really stay home with their babies is if they have the money to. So many people don't have the money and you can really tell the difference when they get into school.
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@cneal3015 (280)
• United States
7 Nov 06
The only response I have to this question is society is really screwed up these days. If the cost of living wasn't so high we could all stay home with our children. Unfortunately, that is not the case. You must either cut back and live on one income or go to work. You certainly shouldn't get paid for caring for your own children. We are a materialistic society and as a result we have to live on two incomes.
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@nannacroc (4049)
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7 Nov 06
That's a good point, I chose to stay at home with my children and they had a lot less material things than I would have liked. It would be a better idea for everyone if the cost of living was reduced, but that's not going to happen any more than my suggestion will.
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@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
7 Nov 06
Cutting back is fine but when the cost of living keeps going up and up and wages don't, there ends up being families who have cut back and can't cut back any more without putting ever more financial pressure on them.
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@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
7 Nov 06
Cutting back is fine but when the cost of living keeps going up and up and wages don't, there ends up being families who have cut back and can't cut back any more without putting ever more financial pressure on them.
@margieanneart (26423)
• United States
3 Nov 06
I think that if you cannot care for your own child, don't have them. The first few years are bonding times. Who loves a child more than it's own mother and father?
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@Children_first_921 (135)
• United States
3 Nov 06
Dont have a child if you cant pay for them either.
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@mylittlemunchkins (63)
• United States
7 Nov 06
I wish I could get paid for staying home with my children. As it is, I go to school full time and work part time at home and I used to have someone here to help with my kids but she has left now. I have someone who is supposed to come stay and help but hasn't made it here yet and I'm reallt struggling to get the things done I need to do to bring in the money.
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@starr4all (2863)
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26 Oct 06
Nope. I'm a SAHM and I don't think you should get paid extra for watching your own kids. Your their parent take care of them. Don't try to use a monetary unit to bribe people to stay home that maybe shouldn't stay home.
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@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
26 Oct 06
It's not about whether they should or shouldn't stay at home. It's just about having enough money to live on really. There are a lot of people who go to work because they can't afford not to so it would just be easier if the same allowances were given to stay at home mums as they are to mums who can't be bothered with their own kids. Personally, if people choose not to stay home with their kids then they probably shouldn't have kids but why should those who dump their kids on someone else be given help and those who look after their own, not be given help?
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@nannacroc (4049)
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28 Oct 06
That's exactly the point I was trying to make. I think the problem is that English (that's English English), is my first language so I'm hard to understand.
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@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
28 Oct 06
Well, I would guess that those who don't think this should happen are either not stay at home mums or have plenty of money from their partners. I really think some people have totally missed the point here. If people are given money from the government so they can then give it to someone else to look after their children, then there is no reason why people who care enough to look after their own children shouldn't be entitled to the same.
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@denax1 (708)
• United States
3 Nov 06
No, I don't think a stay at home parent should be given childcare fees. The childcare fees would have to come from somewhere and that somewhere would be my taxes. I work hard enough to make money to care for my own children. I don't need to have to work even harder to earn more money because I have more taxes being taken out of my pay because someone had a child and is staying home to care for the child they decided to have. Yes, taking care of children is hard work. I know, I have two of my own. But it is up to the parent to provide for them, not the government and other tax payers.
@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
9 Nov 06
So are you saying it's a bad idea because you don't agree with the idea or are you saying it just because you think it would mean you paying more taxes? I don;t know if you have read any of the other posts here but if you have then you may realise that this idea would basically mean that the working parent in a family is paying for this with their tax. It's kind of annoying that people have assumptions like yours. I'll give an example. My partner works full time to bring in a wage to look after the family, he pays taxes. Why don't people think about that instead of moaning about "my taxes pay for this". It's not your taxes, it's everyones taxes, which anyone could need at any time of life.
@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
9 Nov 06
So are you saying it's a bad idea because you don't agree with the idea or are you saying it just because you think it would mean you paying more taxes? I don;t know if you have read any of the other posts here but if you have then you may realise that this idea would basically mean that the working parent in a family is paying for this with their tax. It's kind of annoying that people have assumptions like yours. I'll give an example. My partner works full time to bring in a wage to look after the family, he pays taxes. Why don't people think about that instead of moaning about "my taxes pay for this". It's not your taxes, it's everyones taxes, which anyone could need at any time of life.
@RitaS8 (384)
• United States
1 Nov 06
Wow! That would be wonderful! I'm trying to get the process started in my becoming a certified respite caregiver so that I can earn a little money from taking care of my daughter. I'm hoping to be able to set that money aside to go to school to be an interior designer.
@sc00ter (125)
• United States
7 Nov 06
Well i'm a SAHM and let me tell ya its hard work. The hardest job i've ever had. I have 3 kids. two under 5 yrs old. Its pretty hard and i think you have to be cut out for it. NOT Everybody can do it. Your kids or not, its pretty tough. You need lots of patients. I know lots of people that can't do it and choose to go back to work even tho they don't have to. Its a 24 hours a day job.
I love being a SAHM and i have my days where its really hard, but thankfully i have a great husband that supports me and helps me a lot when hes home from work. He's also very understanding of me needing my alone time whenever i need it. So that helps a ton, cuz if i didn't have that i'd probably go coocoo for coco puffs!
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@katabongaz (537)
• Mexico
7 Nov 06
I think that until your child is ready to go to school that its best to stay at home and raise them, Then learn so fast during this stage in their life and they are only children for a short amount of time.
I do however also think that alot of people cannot afford to have 1 parent or both stay at home all day. I think with prices of everything going up and up like house prices it is getting virtually impossible for first time buyers and newly weds and young familys to even afford to buy a house to begin with.
Employers pay women and are now paying the men also maternity leave and i think its great that guys are recieving it to.