We must stay and deal with the situation in Iraq by all means.
@TheRepublicMenu (290)
United States
July 10, 2007 1:08pm CST
John Conyers is an old fool who needs to retire. No, he should have retired 20 years ago. He refuses to die, he refuses to shut the hell up, and he further makes the Michigan area look bad with his consistant attacks on the president. The latest folly which comes from this old fool is him saying that "We need to withdraw troops because the Iraqi government has not met any guidelines". If we do that, there will be an all out civil war. The government will be in a lot worse shape than where it is now. The rogue element of Iraq waits still for an American backout or withdrawal. We must stay there and take care of business. The people of Iraq and the people who are concerned about what goes on there (right wing god fearing people)deserve that much. I am proud of Bush who is finally listening to his general instead of anti Bush elected officials in The Washington D.C area.
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@us2owls (1681)
• United States
11 Jul 07
There are now and have been for years quite a few like Conyers who should be retired from Washington - but it is up to the people to get out and vote and show them enough is enough. As for getting our troops out of Iraq it seems to be too soon in my opinion. Maybe Geroge Bush isn't the best President we have had but he is at least trying to finish with an appropriate ending what he started. We might not have been in this position today if his father had followed his gut instincts rather than the UN requirements when we ran Saddam out of Kuwait when he invaded it trying to get more control over oil in this world. We should have stayed then and finished the job. My late husband was in the military and believe me were he still alive and able to he would have been one of the first to volunteer to go help rid the world of that Dictator Saddamm Hussein and to try and bring some normalcy and decency into the lives of the Iraqui people.
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@TheRepublicMenu (290)
• United States
12 Jul 07
Your husband was a great man. And yes, had former president Bush Snr. done the job right the first time, we would not be in this mess.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
11 Jul 07
I would say I would have to disagree with just about everything you said. Why should we stay in a place supporting a people who dont wants us there and dont care to fight for freedom themselves? They only get mad when their own people get killed.
We are dumping billions of dollars into Iraq and more troops and its not getting any better only worse. What happens after we spend the next twenty years there than pull out wont that be a bigger waste of human life than doing it sooner?
From the start of this Bush has surrounded himself with yes men and thats all he would listen to even now. He fired Lawrence Lindsay for estimating the cost of the war to be around $200 Billion. We have far passed that number.
Its funny that everyone thinks that if we will leave it will than become a civil war but firmly deny that just maybe some of it is a civil war right now.
As far as God fearing people, most political right wingers I have met worry more about the money in their bank account than they do about God or their fellow man.
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@TheRepublicMenu (290)
• United States
12 Jul 07
Where did you get this notion that the people do not want us there? The people DO want us there because they know what will happen if AMERICA leaves. The people did not even have the guts to fight for their freedoms, much less complain about how awful life was under their former dictator Hussein. Many people were greatful that America came, I know the Kurds were. We are dumping billions of dollars into Iraq with troop numbers because that is what it will take to get the job done. We will not leave this place a mess like we like Vietnam a mess under LBJ.
Bush has surrounded himself with Yesmen? Who are these Yesmen? So, you are telling me that Clinton and Carter never had Yesmen either? How about people who agree with what is happening? You would rather have those sort of people rather than have upstarts and defeatists like the democrats. They are Nomen who we just don't need to get in our way.
If we leave, it will indeed be a civil war. That is why it is important for us not to leave at all.
@TheRepublicMenu (290)
• United States
14 Jul 07
The job will be done once that people in Iraq have a stable government. Only then shall we leave.
Your assumption that they do not want us there is false. It has showed that the only ones who do not want us there are the Muslim extremists. The kurds and the Shiites indeed want America there in order to make the country stable.
It is getting worse only in your own perspective. In my very own...it is getting better because the democrats, people like you, and other people who hate freedom, democracy and goodwill want America to leave. You are no better than the terrorists who are waiting things out.
I thought we went over this before? Yesmen existed in the Carter and Clinton administrations as well. The president does not hire people who conflict and give hi headaches every single day. Why would any president do that? Is that logical at all?
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
10 Jul 07
You are exactly right, John Conyers is an old fool. Liberals have away of staying around. To the Iraq war, we have to win this war. There is no other way to defeat the terrorist but to kill them, and destroy area that support them. AlQaeda will not quit just because we leave Iraq. AlQaeda is in Iraq right now. They see this as do or die for them. Let us make it deadly for them. Look we cannot change public opinion over night, but history will prove that we are right.
@Married2aMarine (1273)
• United States
11 Jul 07
I agree with you and I'm a wife of a Marine. It's easy for others to say all kinds of things about what is right and what is wrong but unless and until you are living the life, you don't really know what goes on. My husband has been on deployments to Iraq and from what he has seen and experienced so far, it is like what you said. If they pull out the troops now, the country will be in shambles and an all-out civil war. I don't necessarily agree with the war to begin with but what is done is done and to pull out the troops now would be foolish and irresponsible. I think we have to finish what we started whether we like it or not. That is at least the moral responsibility and now, we have to provide humanitarian aid to the Iraqis more than ever. Yes, there are problems getting Iraqis to meet their end of the bargain and we keep missing the datelines. Do I enjoy sending my husband off to deployments? Of course not! He's due to go on another one end of this year. I do not agree with everything that the US government is doing but pulling the troops back now would not be a good idea.
@TheRepublicMenu (290)
• United States
12 Jul 07
I have a cousin in the Marines over there too. He sort of likes it too. He said the media is not reporting all the good which goes on, just the bad. I told him that he was correct. I think this thing will be over in two or three years. I also think your husband shall return along with his unit victorious.
@agfarm (930)
• United States
11 Jul 07
I am sorry RepublicanMenu....I have to disagree w/ you.
The Iraqi government is not holding up their end of the Bargain. They are supposed to take over the Security of their country , and it is not happening. For the Safety of our Soldiers ( and my husband is Military ) I say this w/ all my heart.... It is time to get out of Iraq. Civil war has been unfolding right before our very eyes. It's there , it's alive. We need to get our young people out.
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@TheRepublicMenu (290)
• United States
11 Jul 07
We must stay the course just like the president said.
If we leave now, we will give the insurgency and the extremists must needed emotional boosts.
Do you want that?
We will not leave a war unfinished. We must win by all costs. The civil war between these people have went on for thousands of years, this one is nothing new.
@TheRepublicMenu (290)
• United States
14 Jul 07
George Washington and the Continental Army defeated Great Britain.
Haiti defeated France.
Nazi Germany lost in World War 2.
Can or need I go on? I am a historian. There is a winner and a loser in war. We are in this to win, and I thank Bush for his vision and clarity. Only cowards and naysayers turn away.
@reppie2roo (62)
• United States
31 Jul 07
I appreciate your point of view. I completely agree with you. I have been there, and seen what we are doing there. Gen Petraeus has the right strategy, and as long as this country doesn't become more anti-war, we will accomplish our ultimate goal in Iraq, which is for the Iraqi government to be self sustaining and a willing partner in the war on terror.
The media, and the Democrats will continue to deny the truth regarding the surge, but it is working. The Iraqi military on a daily basis gains strength and accepts further responsibilities. It was just a matter of time before this would happen, and now it appears as though it is happening to a large degree.
Given the way Saddam handled his military, the level to which the current Iraqi military has come along is actually surprisingly fast. Saddam was so afraid of a military coup, there essentially was no military in Iraq under Saddam, outside the Fedayeen. That means there was virtually noone with any military leadership experience in Iraq outside the Fedayeen, and we could not trust them. So for the Iraqi military to be as far along as it is to this point is an accomplishment.
The successes of the Iraq war are almost countless, and the reasons for going were justified and reasonable. For us to leave now would be a disaster.