What do you think a person has to do or be to live an honorable life?

Canada
July 18, 2007 1:23am CST
That is something I've thought a lot about with all the mudsligning and lack of accountablity in the political arena these days. It is alarming to me that so many people play the 'blame game' and refuse to own up to unethical behavior and do absolutely nothing to change it. I guess in my view those who live an honorable life have a number of things in common. They have integrity, they walk their talk. They also and say what they mean...and mean what they say. Honorable people treat others with dignity and respect, regardless of their station in life. Within their lense of life they understand and accept the common thread that joins all of humanity together...something along the lines of "I honor the place in you...where we are all one." Now that is just my perspective...I look forward to all of yours.
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
18 Jul 07
I'll keep this one short and sweet. I think if a person manages to live by the Golden Rule the majority of the time, or even better, ALL of the time, they will have lived an honorable life. I can't say I've done it ALL of the time, but I do most of the time. Golden rule for those who don't know... Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Thanks for another great discussion!
• United States
18 Jul 07
Great response especially "Do unto others as you would have done unto you."
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
19 Jul 07
Yep we "everyone" should know that one.
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• Canada
19 Jul 07
Well miamilady..thank you twice..first for your brief..eleoquent...and powerfully true reminder. Secondly for your cudos on the discussion. My busy brain wakes up at night going...oh...I would love to know what on-line friends would say to this..or that. So all of you are inspiring me too! That is the great thing about the "what goes around comes around...ripple effect of like minded others. I am enjoying myself...and value all the wise and wonderful responses to the perspectives site. Always glad to see your Avatar when I first start scanning down the response list!
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
18 Jul 07
We should kick out all the mudslingers and start anew. BUt alas no one will do that . WHat is the old addage those without sin cast the first stone? I hate all the retoric that they put out there and the promices they know they arent going to keep. You have to tell the truth and walk the talk are you arent honorable,like you said. I dont know if there is anyone out there in political land that can tell the truth or have advizers to set and whisper to them what they are to say. I bet if they wrote their own speeches and kept to them some of those poeple could be honorable.
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• Canada
18 Jul 07
It is true, broken promises and mudslinging do not represent 'honor.' There seems to be increasingly less of it within the political arena...and no one seems to do anything about it. I think accountability and owning up to mistakes reveal a person's ability to be more honorable...but it doesn't appear to be something politicians concern themselves about. Maybe you have a point about the speech-writers and those talking heads that spout whatever they write. Who knows? Thanks for you comments Lakota12..always happy to hear from you.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
19 Jul 07
your welcome,Someone sent a url for youtube that had Bushes bloppers on it it was funny for it donr seem like he can keep his tounge straight even if his speach is writting for him. lol your welcome hugs and Blessing
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• Canada
21 Jul 07
Bush Bloopers..I imagine they must have quick a stock pile by now. He has made so many big bloopers...in more ways than one!
• United States
18 Jul 07
I love your description of what it takes and I have to say that I truly try to live my life according to these perpectives. So far I have done pretty well. I have made a few slips in my many years but one thing I have earned is my own self respect because I think without that I could not try to achieve an honorable life by the standards you describe. .
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• Canada
20 Jul 07
It is so delightful to hear you speak about your understanding of who you are in such a quiet confident way. You appear to have determined your life path and are living in from a centered place of integrity and I admire that. Understanding who we are and living life in the best way we know how..is honorable. Thank you for your additions...they are appreciated.
@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
18 Jul 07
My perspective is that to live an honorable life one must honor life, in all its forms. This is observable in one's behavior toward others, self, and all of nature. Ghandi and Mother Theresa would be the models. While we may not be in the position to influence as many lives as they, we each influence our part of the world and are responsible for our actions and interactions in it. When I die I hope that I will be remembered as having been a blessing, of having made a positive difference in my part of the world. Only then do I have the right to be "honored."
• Canada
18 Jul 07
Honoring life in all forms...that is a wonderful addition to this disucssion. Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, the way some plunder our natural resources without honoring their part in the Oneness of life...it is dishonoring. Ghandi and Mother Theresa are wonderful examples...but there are many other with less of a public profile. I agree with you that we never fully comprehend the ripple effect of interactions with others...but if we do our best to live by right principles hopefully the effect will be positive. From our on-line chats your insights are a blessing. They do make a positive difference I am grateful for what you offer to perspectives topics. Thank you. Warm regards
@Amstardam (1348)
• United States
18 Jul 07
I think it's hard to live an honorable life in this day and age. If you try, everyone judges you and says that you think you're better than everyone else...when in reality, you've never said anything like that and wouldn't even think that. I respect people who try to live an honorable life. I think it's great that there are still people who care about other people in this increasing selfish world. What does it take to lead an honorable life these days?
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• Canada
20 Jul 07
Before commending I must say I love the picture of your Avatar. For some reason that I do not understand...I really like camels and the picture of the pyramids is the background present a very appealing image. Anyway...I think my initial comments in the discussion give you my perspective...but here are a couple of from them. Walk your talk, say way you mean...mean what you say, respect differences, treat others as you would like to be treated, keep your word, have an open mind and heart, show compassion towards others, give to those less fortunate. Those are a few of my perspectives...but other Mylotters have provided many other wonderful examples. Hope that answers your question.
@Amstardam (1348)
• United States
20 Jul 07
You know what I find interesting? That all of those things that you mentioned are common in almost every religion. Every religion has a "code of conduct" yet we still can't get along. Thank you for your comment about my photo! Camels are fun and are very unique animals! They were everywhere around the pyramids. :)
@ryunix (25)
• Canada
19 Jul 07
*wishes this thing would let me paste... im such a bad speller :S* I suppose I have to give the default Christian answer. You can live a decent life, kinder then others by doing kind things, but to live a good life there is but one way (im not bible thumping so please dont thump me) Personally I thought I lived a honorable life but 3 years ago I found that I had not. Anyway, religion aside, it would be nice for someone to be honest even when it makes them look bad, just becuase it is the right thing to do. Pity all people are sinful, and all we can do is try our best. To be honorable is to be honest, careing and unselfish.
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
19 Jul 07
Once you get to 500 posts you will be able to cut and paste. Happy myLotting!
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@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
19 Jul 07
This discussion takes me back to my days studying Aristotle's theory of the Good Life, which he discussed in the Nichomachean Ethics. :) Aristotle believed that the Good Life belonged only to a "good" or honourable person. A Good Life was not about accumulated wealth, or how much pleasure one derives from everyday activities, but virtuous and moral behaviour that fitted in with his times. The a-typical ancient greek hero, who was strong and loyal and trustworthy. Who spoke truth and did great things for the people. Aristotle seemed to believe that if one was virtuous they would be happy, and if they were happy they had teh good life. Okay but I'm rambling, and this is all just my interpretation of all of that anyhow, which is pretty basic. Why I brought it up however is because I believe in this version of the good life- I believe that upholding one's personal virtues (which may differ slightly between individuals and different cultures, but are generally universally acceoted as good values ie; being honest, being trustworthy, being able to lend a helping hand etc) lead to ahappy life and an honourable life. A life which a person can be happy to have lived, and others view as honourable. Hope you can make sense of my ramblings, I find it hard to put across my thoughts sometimes, particularly in regards to philosophical issues. P.S I don't think any politicians in contemporary society can claimj to be virtuous or to have lived a "good" or "honourable" life LOL ;)
• Canada
20 Jul 07
Hi...I appreciate your involvement in the discssion..and no I don't think you are rambling...I understand what you are saying and philosophical discussions can be a little mind-warping at times. I appreciated you pointed out that there are cultural differences that can alter one's view of honor. We are also in strong agreement about the less than honorable choices many make within the political arena. The thing that blows me away is how seldom they are held accountable...by their peers...the people who elected them, the justice system..oh well that is something else again.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
19 Jul 07
Well, I am getting on in age and I hope when I die people will say that I lived an honourable life. To me an honourable life is to fulfill one's responsibilities, treat everyone with respect, be it the CEO of a company or the men who pick up the garbage every week. To be a good husband or wife and to be a good and loyal friend. Also to be content with one's lot in life and not be jealous of those who have more and finally to respect the environment.
• Canada
20 Jul 07
I am so pleased you mentioned about showing respect for the environment. It is a good point and in my view it is part of how we show 'honor' for all the magnificent creations within the natural world. Your references to people's stations in life..you are right showing respect to others is, indeed, very honorable. Thank you for bringing those ideas to the table of discussion.
@sunshinecup (7871)
18 Jul 07
WOW! + rating for you. Wonderful unique topic!! "They have integrity, they walk their talk. They also and say what they mean...and mean what they say." Yes they stand for what’s right and they DON’T make allowances, not even for friends. They speak their peace and not run off to start a character assignation from the shadows. They are honest about what they stand for. I reckon it's someone that can stand proud for their every day actions, not because they ignore their wrong doings, because they strive to not commit them.
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• Canada
20 Jul 07
sunshinecup..you came in...beamed on me and brightened my day...thank you for the plus...and the cudos on the topic! Hope you keep stopping by...nice to have your sunny disposition here! I really enjoyed your closing comment...honoralbe people stand pround for they every day actions..not because they ignore their wrong doings...because they strive to not commit them. Right On!!!!
@ibsnet (1268)
• India
18 Jul 07
If the world is wise, what you said about honorable people is really true. But in this high corruption world the person who should get a single honor receives thousands of honor everyday and treated as one of the societies most honorable person due to the fact either he is a man with high political touch, either he is from a good criminal hold, either he shows he is a social reformer and takes huge money to get things done in a society for people. So the real honorable person is not actually these days honored except from a very few lucky one.
• Canada
19 Jul 07
Yes all that you have said is true...corruption does get a lot more attention these days. However we have had some amazing examples...Mother Theresa, Ghandi, and countless everyday heros that go about living their honorable lives in quiet confidence and unassuming grace. I heard about many of them when friends shared who they admired and respected. They are out there...and that is why I like posting these discussions. We need to be reminded of them..even though they don't hit the headlines..they are out there...and thank goodness for that!
@DanaMark (807)
• United States
19 Jul 07
You make me think too much! lol. I think an honorable life has to be an honest life and pretty much by the law. I know we have all made mistakes and have done things we regret and would not do now that we know better. But character is formed by trial and error. We learn as we go. We hear from our parents and teachers what we are to do and not do. But we must learn for ourselves what we will and will not do. Then it becomes our own list of rules to live by and not just because someone else told us. Until we make the rules our own with a commitment to follow them we cannot live with integrity. Unfortunately many people are not living honest lives. We all have secrets. Some of those are just guilt about little things we are hiding away because we don't want anyone to know. But those aren't as bad as we think they are. And if people really knew, it wouldn't change their opinion of us. It has just changed our own opinion of ourselves. But there are other things that can and do change opinions. When I hear of the secrets politicians have been hiding, I am very disappointed. There are people we trust - pastors, teachers, doctors, who let us down when they cheat on their spouses, or embezzle, or abuse their wives. They are not living honest lives. They are doing things they have to hide, things that are wrong, things that should not be done. It sounds like I am saying a completely honorable life is one where nothing has to be hidden. That is a little scary. We have secrets we need to keep. But those secrets cannot be "real bad" or the life has not been honorable. This is tough to define. Like I said, you make me think too much.
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• Canada
20 Jul 07
Well...DanaMark...maybe I make you think too much...but you do it so well my friend. Besides it can't be too hard...or too much..because you keep coming back for more...and I am glad you do! LOL What you have presented here adds a whole other perspective to the topic...and a very interesting one at that. The truthful part of honor is a big one for me too. That is why I mentioned shared my intent to "say what I mean..and mean what I say...and walk my talk." However, I agree with you it can be unnerving and challenging to do. I have lost a few friends when I asked them to be accountable for their actions towards me...they couldn't and ended up distacing themselves. Many say they want us to be honest...but often can't handle it...and then what? The examples you sited about dishonesty that leads to dishonor is also true. and It has been very disappointing to see what your government officials have done to the American people. Not that political leaders in Canada are flawless either..but their dishonesty has not had such a global impact. Anyway..everything we are talking about does reveal the differences between an honorable and dishonorable life and I greatly appreciate your on-going participation here...even if I do make you think too much. (Smile) Maybe I'll post something lighter for a change of pace..so stay tuned. Also hope the dental work is feeling better. Cheers!
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
19 Jul 07
I got excited when I read the title here for I really have strong feelings about this subject. After reading your entire post, I am left feeling that I really could not add much to it...nothing really. In the end, you won't be remembered for how wealthy you were or the car you drove or anything like that. You will be remembered for how you affected individual lives.
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• Canada
20 Jul 07
Ahhh, that is a beautiful summation...thank you! It is so true...my Mom passed away 2 years ago with little left in material things..but her gentle honorable sprirt touched the lives of everyone she met. She loved butterflies...and all who loved her said that she was a gentle, earth angel who lived an honorable life. Now she is flying free...and will always be remembered as you wisely said...nor for her material wealth..but for how she affected all our lives.
• India
18 Jul 07
Hi, Set your GOAlS,work sincerely to achieve them,be in the Right State & let not the negativity of others influence you-believe in yourself & be positive, do whatever is ethical & moral, Thank God for everything as everything happening has a PURPOSE behind it which may not be visible & above all, wear on the best cosmetic on your face--SMILE.Believe me, you will have self-satisfaction!! Thanks, www.creatingcolourfulfuture.com
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• Canada
19 Jul 07
Sounds like you have found a way to ... as your the corresponding e-mail address says...created a colorful and bright future. Ethics and morality are definitely two important aspects of being honorable and living an honorable life. Being gratefu...I agree with that one for sure! I like your be happy, don't worry approach..that sure does make living an honorable life a very complete package. Thanks for you input..much appreciated. I will check out your web address too!
• India
18 Jul 07
Well these days people views changes as every new gadget in the market.world might be becoming techno savy with each day updates but our values are never gonna be changed they are what we have,they make us our true beings so we should never comprise on them.they are great people in the world who are great in their own ways but great humans are very less they are the ones who know what it is to stand by their words,respect others n deir values.dey lead honorable lyf by standing what comes by deir way dey have da real wealth of deir values which nooone can buy.
• Canada
19 Jul 07
He pinkprincess...and by the number by your name I see you are new to Mylot. Welcome..I hope you enjoy this great on-line community as much as I do. I agree that honorable people do stand by their word and respect others..and cannot be bought or sold. These are all very good points you have brought up...thank you.
@Willowlady (10658)
• United States
18 Jul 07
I think as usual we agree on this. My imput would be that someone being honorable would be honest. Personal accountability is key also. I would hope that our world would become more honorable however I cannot think that I will see it in my lifetime on any large scale.
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• Canada
18 Jul 07
Yes Willowlady it is rather discouraging to think that the scale between honor/dishonor seems to be tipping towards the latter...at least by all outward appearances. However, the dishonoring, negative, unaccountable news pieces get the most air time. After sharing in the on-line discussions with all of you this past month I do feel more quietly optomistic that there is still much light operating on 'unseen' levels of society. I hold to the 'it only takes one candle to light a room' idea. Without hope life would be...not to sound trite...but 'hopeless.' That is not a place I will choose to live...or see. At least for now anyway. Always good comparing notes with you..thanks. Y