Do you think that Gays should be allowed to be married?
By cyberopjames
@cyberopjames (483)
United States
July 19, 2007 2:51pm CST
I know this question has been around for ages. I am a gay male and I have been with my lover Jason for Sept 27 will be 8 years. We have a home together, bank accounts, vacation home. But if anything was to happen to any one of us, we could not make medical choices for each other. Jason can not put me on his medical insurance unless he pays an arm and leg. It is cheaper for married couples to get family insurance. I understand that alot of stright couples would like to reserve the word marrage. So my question is should gay couples be allowed to be married and if so what would we name it?
The states need to thing about all the income they would get for allowing gays to be married. They would have to pay for marrage license. I know they would require blood tests. Then taxes on renting places to get married. Then if a gay couple was to get devoriced then the courts would make money. If this discussion offends you, sorry about that.
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@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
19 Jul 07
I think gay people should be allowed to marry. I don't know what you would call it if you don't call it marriage. Its scary to think that if something happened to one of you that the other couldn't make medical decisions. i couldn't imagine not having any say in my husbands health. i don't understand why people have such a problem with it. either way you are going to be gay, so why not let you get married and prove how commited to your partner you are. wtg on 8 years!
@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
20 Jul 07
Thank you for responding. That all gays are asking for. My other half ended up in the hospital one night and they would not let me go back and see him. I told them if you try to stick him the would freak out. And that is what just happen. After I told them if they did not let me back, I would call the local news and they can tell them why. Well, long story short, they let me back and he was shaking. Later that night after I had to go home, he freaked out around 2am and then the hospital called me an asked me to come and help with him.
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@wayz12 (2059)
• United States
19 Jul 07
Sure! I think gay couples should have every right to be as miserable as any straight couple by getting married. LOL.. Sorry, didn't mean to be flippant, but I cannot resist.
Seriously, based on your arguments, I'm sure there are some benefits available to married couples that are denied those who are not legally married even if they are together. I also like your argument about extra state revenues if gay couples are allowed to go through the marriage process.
To be honest, I'm not really a believer of the sanctity of marriage and all, so as far as i'm concerned, if gays want to get married, they should be allowed to do so. Unfortunately, as long as there are conservatives and Christians in government, this will be an uphill battle.
But hey, things can change so don't give up.
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
20 Jul 07
I agree that you shouldn't be making out on the street corner, but you should be able to hold hands as straight couples to and softly kiss as straight couples do without feeling conspicuious or in danger. Hand holding is not just for behind closed doors. It's sweet.
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@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
25 Jul 07
Only at gay pride would you see me holding the hand of my lover in public. I am the type of person that will not push my life style in your face other then the gay marriage issue.
@avonrep1 (1862)
• United States
20 Jul 07
I think that you and your lover should be able to have a union of some sort, even if you don't call it marriage, that is what it is. This whole debate is stupid in my eyes. The government, says it is about preserving families. I say Bull$hit.
Because of this. There has been gay people since time first started. It has never ruined family life. People are either gay or they are not. It is not going to someone who is not gay, gay or vice veruses.
There was a study done not to long ago, that showed gay men stay together longer than their hetosexual counterparts. But gay women are about the same. ( I don't know where my sister saw it at,but since she too is gay, I trust she knows what she is talking about.)
BTW cyberopjames welcome to mylot.
One day things will be different here. Hopefully it is in our life time. BTW for those wondering, I'm straight, but think gays should have the same rights as straight people.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
21 Jul 07
"The government, says it is about preserving families. I say Bull$hit."
I too say Bullshyt! Preserving families my a$$! If they got a flippin grip and actually LOOKED at the families of today maybe they'd realize WE SHOULDNT WANT to preserve whats goin on! and what REALLY sets me off is the fact that gay and lesbian couples are allowed to foster children..sometimes for YRS which essentially makes them a family does it not...so whats the flippin problem? NOT TO MENTION the fact that I know gay and lesbian couples who are raising children together and I have to say that those kids are very well balanced, open minded and kinder than many kids from straight couple homes...I really think the gov is just blowing smoke out there behinds simply because they can ya know...they just like stirring the pot and getting the ppl worked up over something whether its valid or not...
*ponders* hell did any of that make ANY sense? I just got up and havent even had my coffee yet LOL
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@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
22 Jul 07
Yes, babe. Everything you said did make sense. I hope you have had your coffee by time you read this. LOL. I agree with what you said.
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@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
20 Jul 07
Like I said before, straight females love gay men. LOL Your right babe. Who dose it hurt for two men or two females to be married and have the same rights as straight people. It is not like I am asking straight men to turn gay or come into my bedroom.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
20 Jul 07
Yes, of course gay people should be allowed to get married to get married.
If people wanna call it somethin' els I guess they could call a marriage ceremony a "Comittment" ceremony. The same thing, just different names. So..instead of being a 'married' couple, you'd be a 'committed' couple..which even sounds better than being married to me. Hm..I wonder if anybody'd law-wise, consider that. They can kind remorph the whole marriage thing if they want, as long as it basically equals up to the same rights.
Like, fine..straight people don't want to share the term 'marriage', you can get your own you know?
*is gonna run off to see who I can talk about this, to see if it could be possibile*
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@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
20 Jul 07
I guess if you call a gay marrage "Comittment" ceremony then you would call a gay diverce and "Uncomittment". LOL. Kidding, we have holy unions and already have comittment ceremonys now. The problem is our government do not see them in the eyes of the law. I thank the standard for marrage as a comittment between two people in love. Not just between male or female. Times have changed, people must change too. I like the way you think. Thanks for your post.
@sugarfloss (2139)
• Malaysia
20 Jul 07
I think gays should be equal rights to be allowed to be married.after all,we're all humans.wow 8 years is a long time.I don't know anyone who's been in a relationship for 8 years.my longest relationship is 2 years.I didn't know it's so complicated for gays to be married.but cyberopjames,i hope you'll get married to Jason.take care!
@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
19 Jul 07
Well the only difference is one of us would not be in a dress. LOL. I agree, is that not the dream of everyone on God's green earth, to find someone to love and spend live with. Who said that love sees a gender?
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@phon4u (2215)
• Laos
22 Jul 07
Well!Love can make two into one. They can choose what they like.
I think they don't have to get married with each other. Because they still can live with each other it is normal. They will find strange if man and woman live together before marriage in my country.
People can find friends online. http://passion.com/go/g867318-ppc
@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
22 Jul 07
Just remember in love the number two is not a number. For there is only two halfs that when they meet become one. In the case of a straight couple with a baby makes three. So as you see two is not a number in love.
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@rosie_123 (6113)
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20 Jul 07
Of course - if that's what they want. Gay marriage is legal here in England and in most ther European countries - also in some parts of South America, so I really dson't see why it seems to be such an issue in the States. The love between two people is the same - whether two me, two women, or a man and a woman - and if that couple want to get married why shouldn't they be allowed to? I don't see why some people get so stressed about it - it's like they are back living in the Middle Ages or something.
@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
20 Jul 07
I know for a country that try to say that we are ahead of the world, we are so far behind. It just seams that our government cares less then its people then other countrys and more on what we do behind closed doors or what happens in other countrys. I thank Bush is using this topic to keep Americans sights off the f ups that he has already done.
@xfallenxlostx (2074)
• United States
20 Jul 07
i definitely think gays should be allowed to wed. Gays are no less of people than straights. my uncle and his husband are gay. i know they are not legally married, but they are married in their hearts and as far as i am concerned, they are. They have been together for many years now and are completely commited to each other. There is no reason they should not be allowed to be bound legally. It's disheartening to me that my uncle cannot get on his husband's insurance and that his hsband cannot make medical decisions on his behalf if he is unable to make them for himself. i believe he actually gave his husband power of attourney, so that is good. You see, my uncle has AIDS (his husband does not) and has been living with it full blown for about 17 years now. His husband takes care of him when he is too sick to get up. His husband has been there through it all. His husband knows what he wants in the end. He SHOULD have the right to make the medical decisions once my uncle is unable to.
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@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
20 Jul 07
Sorry to hear a about your uncle. My God bless him and keep him. I agree your uncle's husband should have the right to make medical choices about his care. You know he may know what is better or what the wish of your uncle is more then anyone. For someone that has been together 17 years and to have someone tell him that your choice dose not matter is wrong. But you know that I was told to get an attourney to make up papers. I have the money to do it but some people dont. Marrage would fix that.
@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
20 Jul 07
I really do not know what is going on here, and why it takes so long for people to understand that thi is the year of 2007 and that gay people should have the same rights as straight couples.
It makes me sad to hear what you said, i hope that things will change, but i do think that it would take time.
I think that you and Jason should have a special agreement that would be made by a good lawyer and would be written while there are witnesses to it, that if anything happens to one of you. tfu tfu tfu, that the other partner should have the right of a known partner, and then you can fight it in court.
@autumndreamer (3185)
• Philippines
22 Jul 07
i don't like it when 2 guys having relationship which is really not disagreeable for me..
it's bad in the religion, isn't it? there's something in my mind everytime I see two guys kissing..lol
@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
22 Jul 07
Well see if you are not one of the two guys then what are you worried about. Just like I would not come in to your relationship and say that i find that bad. In the bible it states, "For GOD so loved the WORLD he sent his son". Not for GOD loved straight people. So next time you see a straight couple or a gay couple, thank there go two people in love.
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@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
20 Jul 07
First thank you for your post. I feel that we should not have to fight for our happiness, but I do agree you have to in this country.
@becca29 (40)
• United States
20 Jul 07
I think anyone that wants to get maried should have the right to do so no matter who it ay offend. Straight people do not have to ask the WORLD beore tey choose to be married, I do not think gay people should have to either...... I am in the USA and here we are "THE LAND OF THE FREE".
@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
20 Jul 07
Well babe, in the Unite States it is "THE LAND OF THE FREE" for some. We have come a long way from when females could not vote. When races did not have rights and now that we have for the most part over come all of that. The gays are the next target.
@tombiz (2036)
• Philippines
21 Aug 07
I believe in giving rights to the gay male couple. This is because I believe in the equality fro all. I may not be espousing a "marriage" thing but there could be a way say a partner ceremony where couple could be officially pronounced as partners and legally enjoy rights that are usually reserved for the traditionally defined marriage.
@010878 (303)
• Indonesia
27 Jul 07
Well if 2 guys in love with each other and they decided to get married then why not :) Should get married or not it depends on the couple if they're ready or not :) Not just physically and materially but also mentally because perhaps it's not very easy for people in the community to accept that. Well you could always refer to the marriage as Marriage or Partnership or whatever you want to call it as long as you know that it's a marriage that you're involved in. :D
@cyberopjames (483)
• United States
28 Jul 07
I know is some straight marriages you have to get aproved by the Reverend before you get married. I think that it should be that way with any marriage. If this was done before hand then maybe people would stay together longer. I believe a heart only sees another heart. If you love someone and willing to spend your life with him/her then it should not matter.