Health Question
By tinamwhite
@tinamwhite (3252)
United States
July 26, 2007 10:08pm CST
If I told you that I was diagnosed with high blood pressure...I would expect that many of you would share with me that this is fairly normal or would tell me about your problems with your high blood pressure or would give me advice on ways to manage it...
So now, If I told you that I had been diagnose with bi-polar disorder...a chemical imbalance in my brain that causes extremes of emotions...manic (very happy) or deep depression or a combinatio of both of them at the same time...
My question is this: Are these two diagnosis' essentially the same in your opinion...I mean nobody chooses to be dianosed with either one and neither one is something that can be controlled without medication (usually)...and with the right medication persons with these diagnoses can lead a normal happy life...
So what is your opinion..physical illness vs mental illness are they similar or vastly different in your mind? Of course I realize that high blood pressure and bi-polar disorder are oposites in that one is a physical and one is a mental.....
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18 responses
@mimatexas (1818)
• United States
27 Jul 07
The mind is very important, I have also a mental disorder, I have depression and anxiety and I have to take pills to control them. I don't think mental and physical illness are the same. I used to have high blood pressure and I have it controlled now. I wish I would not suffer from depression or anxiety because I can't do some things as I want to. I sleep a lot during the day and lacks energy.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
27 Jul 07
I am a disabled RN and have worked with patients who have had both disorders. I have high blood pressure and depression. I do not have the highs that goes along with yours.
You could die from letting your blood pressure go to high, you could go into kidney failure or even have a stroke; this is a fact of life you need to keep your blood pressure under control.
Now the bipolar disorder you could become so depressed you could committe suscide or you could be so high you could hurt yourself by doing something you think you can. Believe me I have seen both.
What I have read is bipolar is physical just like high blood pressure, it is dealing with the chemicals in the brain.
Dealing with chemicals in the blood vessels is the same to me as dealing with the chemicals in the brain you need both to be stabelized to function correctly.
For both diseases there are several different medicatios and you have to find the one that works for you. I have been on several different types of antidepressants and on several different high blood pressure meds. I am now stable with both, but it may take a while to get into balance. Do not give up on either.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
3 Dec 08
Thank you for best response. I hope you are doing well.
@34momma (13882)
• United States
27 Jul 07
although they are to totally different disorders or illiness, my heart still goes out to anyone who is suffering. i think for most people mental illiness is hard to handle because you can't go to the hospital and come out ok. i think mental illiness is look at like a joke because people really just don't understand it. they think that people are lazy, stupid, mean, or just crazy. because there is no magic pill to make it all better.
@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
27 Jul 07
An illness is an illness, and what I believe is causing the problems is in mental illness there are no visible problems apparent. If you stood two people in a room. one with a foot in a cast and the other no apparent problem who would garner sympathy, the visible illness of course. I live with an invisible illness and have been very rudely asked what the heck was wrong with me? I do not ask for special favors nor have any more rights than any one else. but unless I wear a sign I am some times treated very rudely because my thinking is a lot slower and not as clear as most people. I of course do not wear a sign, but I do have no problem with telling people that I live with dementia. and am apt not to be able to answer spot on.
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@muscare (3068)
• Australia
27 Jul 07
Having a wife who suffers from mental illness, and has done since she was fifteen, I can tell you that physical and mental illness is vastly different in a lot of peoples mind because of the stigma attached to mental illness. My wife would often say that she wished it was like a broken leg, at least there is a visual reference that people can associate with. However, if you mention a mental illness, a lot of people treat you like you have the plague, or expect you to be able to 'snap out of it!' People don't choose to have an illness, physical or mental, and they shouldn't be looked at differently. The only other thing I would add is that sometimes, the physical illness can be a lot easier to treat!
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@tinamwhite (3252)
• United States
28 Jul 07
Well stated, my friend...I do agree than there is a stigma associated many times with psychological diagnoses.
@Atanness (31)
• Philippines
28 Jul 07
hmm... from what i have studied, high blood pressure can be a disease itself (hypertension) or a manifestation of a certain disease (like lets say for example, you have seizures, whenever a seizure attack occurs your blood pressure will rise up) or normally whenever you move, run, walk, talk excessively, think seriously, and almost any kind of activity, your blood pressure would tend to rise.
And bi-polar disorder, as what you have mentioned is indeed a mental disorder, quite different they are. but since you are able to have extreme episodes of emotional shift, your bp may respond to this as well. Like if your so sad and depressed, your BP might have a big shift from the normal range to hypertension, and being so happy would mean otherwise.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
27 Jul 07
I have a thyroid condition and I also have BPD so like you I am in the same boat, sometimes I'm on the HMS Titanic and I'm sinking fast, over times I'm sailing the waves. My thyroid contributes to the depression and it's a physical thing, whereas my BPD which is more complex is mental. Sometimes my thyroid drives me mad and it's the BPD that is containable, other times my thyroid is fine and it's my BPD that sinks without trace! Mentally it is harder to deal with personally. The two do go hand in hand and one triggers the other off, usually the thyroid but whereas the thyroid I have to be on tablets for the rest of my natural, BPD is only a label but I'm stuck with it for the rest of my natural too! Lose lose situation x
@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
27 Jul 07
I hope you are asking is an illness an illness. and yes they are an illness, and the difference is possible one of visibility that causes the difference way people treat us, if the body shows some part of the illness, most people can comprehend there is a problem, but with mental illness, there is no visible problem, and if you illness causes you to act differently, then a lot of people will tell you to get your thinking on straight.As if it would be that simple. I live daily with dementia, and there is nothing I can do about my memory loss, nor my inability to do some things, this is a disease that is invisible and in fact partly a mental condition, But even my own original doctor thought I would snap out of it, he is of course history, but it can and does happen to people every day. just watch those people that keep policing the handicap stalls in a parking lot. If you do not have an obvious illness you are questioned as to you right to park there. small but potent example of peoples thinking.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
27 Jul 07
Tha is a really intriging quesion. My first thought is that on the surface they are both manageable, medical conditions and so they would be the same in that sense. Then I consider the fact that one is physical while the other is mental...and I have to decide if it really makes a diference. Having a physical problem can certainly cause mental health issues and having mental health issues can cause physical problems.
I can't say if I've come to a conclusion on it but for now I would say that they are essential the same in the sense that they are serious medical conditions while affecting the body in very different ways.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
28 Jul 07
Though these are two very different diseases, I have been diagnosed with both. You are right when you say they can be managed with medication. Neither is curable(that I know of), so you're looking to be on medication for most of your life unless you are among the lucky few. The physical one is a killer if not managed properly. The mental one can wear you down and bring you to your depths if not managed properly. That is my opinion of both illnesses.
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@kitty1234 (1476)
• United States
27 Jul 07
I think they are both physical diseases and are controlable. Most menal disorders stem from chemical imbalances and therfore are physical to me. High Blood pressure is easier to treat because there are no highs and lows and can be maintained by medication. Bi-polar is difficult to maintain, the extremes highs and lows can not be predicted or maintained without constant treatment. You are right no one choose to have any illness and I believe everything comes from our genes, which we have no control over.
@faithdestiny (80)
• China
27 Jul 07
My father was also diagnosed with high blood pressure and he have to take pills to control them.So I do not think mental and physical illness are the same.Some mental illnesses do not have to take pill.We can cure them with the other way.But some physical illnesses,if we don't take pills.They will become more and more serious probably
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
28 Jul 07
Sweetie I am so sorry that you have been diagnosed with this
Personally I think all Illnesses are bad Physical or Mental
You know my Illnesses and on top of that I have depressions to caused by my Illness and by a lot of other things to so I am on Anti depressants
But I think the Mental illness is more scary as you just have no control over it at all
Big Hugs to you
@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
27 Jul 07
yes, i have had high blood pressure most of my life..and I have seen bi-popular people and i suffer the same symptoms but at a lesser degree then my friends and co workder..could a person get this latter in life? say 60's? could the problem with one cause the problems of the other..? i will have to ask my doc as I am getting awful angry a lot and very tense when people bug me..
and lately it seems my wife is always trying to push my buttons and rejects me..in the more ignorant manner..and I get with some people and I know i talk rude..or not showing more compassion..maybe a little aggressive? well, sorry to vent..but life does not get a bowl of roses..even if you are retired..it seems people make more demands on you and your time
@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
5 Mar 09
Physical illness is vastly different from
mental illness. Physical illness doesn't affects
one's brain function. Mental illness is hard to deal
with.