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How Did the Maji from the East Know that the Special Star Would Lead to Jesus?
By ASL19741978
@ASL19741978 (319)
United States
July 31, 2007 11:59am CST
There are a lot of details to the story of the Magi (or Maji) in Christmas carols, Catholic church tradition, and popular thinking that are not actually facts from the Bible and the true story of the Wisemen who visited Jesus and gave Him gifts. For instance, how many were there? How could they "follow" a star to a specific house? Did they show up at the stable when Jesus was lying in a manger? How did they know He would be a Great King someday? I am interested in hearing your answers.
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@MrGenerics (44)
• Philippines
31 Jul 07
First it was not at the manger where OUR LORD GOD THE SON JESUS CHRIST (GREEK) or YAHSHUA (Hebrew-Aramaic), was born. The Magi had been guided by the spirit of GOD through the rides they were using (camel). In scientific basis, camels follow a bright path or a star perhaps to guide their way. The Magi had already knew the forecast and/or prediction that a KING of KINGS will be born on a specific date and a specific time only.
Wisemen as it is, for they knew and believe in the prediction of prophets. They are the original believers of a TRIUNE GOD.
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@ASL19741978 (319)
• United States
2 Aug 07
You are correct in saying that Our LORD God the Son, Jesus Christ (from the Greek) or Yeshua (from the Hebrew-and Aramaic) was not born IN a manger. That would have been very difficult for Mary to manage, and a hard landing for the baby. He was, however, born in a STABLE, and Mary and Joseph laid Him in a manger since there was no other place for them to put Him down.
You are so incredibly close with your answer about the Magi being guided by the Spirit of God. Be more specific!
There is no mention in the Bible of the Magi riding camels. It makes sense logically because we know that was a typical mode of travel, especially across wilderness and desert lands.
How did the Magi "already know the forecast and/or prediction that a King of kings would be born on a specific date and at a specific time only"? Yes, they believed the prediction of the prophets, but which prophets?
I agree with you that they were believers in a triune God. Not the original ones, but they most likely did believe this. But you need to be more specific about the previous answers, then you'll get the best answer. I'll wait.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
31 Jul 07
Actually I have read that according calculations by astronomers Haley's Comet was seen in the sky around the time when Jesus was born. Remember also the Jews were waiting for a messiah. The bible stories were told and retold orally many times before they were written down. So we don't know if the wise men asked around where a new born child could be found, we don't know if they showed up at the stable, or later when the young family had moved elesewhere and we don't know if they thought he would be a great king someday. I they did think that they most likely though in terms of a worldly king. The traditions of carols and Christmas cards and elaboration of the story happened many centuries later.
@ASL19741978 (319)
• United States
2 Aug 07
I have heard the Haley's Comet idea, but I don't think it is the best explanation for the way the Star moved, disappeared, or stopped over a certain very specific place. Comet's just follow an orbit.
We don't know if the Wise Men asked the general populace if and where a new baby had just been born, but that would be kind of a wild goose chase, don't you think? They did ask one certain person that is mentioned in the Bible, who then asked another group of people. Do you know who that was?
We also know for sure whether or not they found Jesus in a stable or a house. That's also found in the Bible, in the book of Matthew. Do you know which it was?
We also know whether or not they knew or didn't know Jesus would be a King. It tells about that in the Bible, too.
I do agree with you that they perhaps thought He might be a worldly king, which would be correct according to the prophecies, just not at His First Coming. That will happen at His Second Coming, which I hope will be soon!
You're completely correct that the Christmas carols and traditions surrounding celebrating Christ's birth came around 300+ years later. Thank you for your response! :)
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@abroji (3247)
• India
2 Aug 07
Hello ASL19741978, this topic is fantastic. I read every response in this discussion and all your comments. I am very much interested in such facts. But let me please tell you that I am no expert of the Bible. In fact I don't read it regularly. Neverthless I am most interested to gather much information from such discussions. I will keep watching this discussion to see your answers to the questions you raised.
Thank you.
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@ASL19741978 (319)
• United States
4 Aug 07
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying reading this discussion. If you have access to the Bible, you should consider reading Matthew chapter 2. It gives very specific information that will answer some of the questions in this discussion. Some of the aspects can only be speculated about in light of the rest of Scripture, but others can be known for sure because of the events that happened at that time. Keep reading!
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@cmoneyspinner (9219)
• Austin, Texas
29 Nov 15
Suggested this discussion to a fellow myLotter. Hope he responds.
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@HebrewGreekStudies (1646)
• Canada
29 Nov 15
Actually, to a lot of your questions the truth is there is not a Biblical answer, only conjecture. Something to keep in mind is to take Matthew on his own terms, since we are quoting his text, and the purpose of Matthew having them in his Gospel, was in a sense saying the Gentiles would recognize Him-in a sense preparing for the Gospel commission to "all nations"-it's also a reason why Matthew lists certain Non-Israelite women in his geneology of Jesus-but in short...how many wisemen? Doesn't say. Manger? That's Luke's account-the shepherds not the magi. How did they know He would be King? I've sometimes heard the Balaam prophecy mentioned about the "star"...but this would be guessing, as it doesn't say aside from their initial statement, and the later prophecy they learnt.
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@cmoneyspinner (9219)
• Austin, Texas
29 Nov 15
Thanks for your comments bro! My add on.
No reason for me to doubt the biblical accounts. How many comprise the magi? Who cares? The wise men said they saw a star and together decided to go looking for a king. Guess what? They found a King!! The rest is history – “yesterday, the same and forever”.
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