What do you think...
By twoey68
@twoey68 (13627)
United States
August 2, 2007 10:45am CST
Ok, let me start by saying I'm not trying to insult anyone but I've been reading alot about parents and what they do with their children...leaving them in locked cars, leaving them on the side of the road, beating them, abusing them, chaining them, all kinds of things. Some of these ppl obviously have no business having children, in my opionion. I think personally they should make ppl start taking a common sense test before becoming a parent. At least it would cut down on some of it. I also think personally that if you are guilty of abuse or cruelty you shouldn't be allowed to have anymore kids even after you get out of jail. I know some will think I'm crazy, mean or spiteful but there are way too many kids getting hurt or mistreated and nothing being done to the ones causing it or they just go out and have more kids and do it again. What do you think?
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@magikrose (5429)
• United States
2 Aug 07
As much as I agree with you a commonsence test can be faked. Think about it, people can answer the questions with things they would intend to do and pass it then once they have the child things change. People can and will say anything to get what they want.
I do agree with you 100% that something needs to be done. The thing is no one knows what kind of parent they are going to be untill they become one.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
2 Aug 07
This is kind of a tough one. The hard part is that there is no way of keeping people from having children without taking away their control over their own body. That's so intrusive, I'm not sure I could advocate it. *thinks*
However, as someone who has an abused child myself, my gut says that it shouldn't be an issue of whether they'll have more kids or not, because people who are caught abusing children should be killed. There, now I sound more crazy, mean, and spiteful than you do!
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
3 Aug 07
I agree that if a person has been convicted of abuse such as you mentioned here...then yes, court ordered sterilization perhaps! they should not be allowed to get out of a prison or hospital to commit the same crime. However to force everyone to submit to a test before becoming parents is wrong. I would have flunked the test for sure when I became pregnant at 19. I was partying and just learning about life. I settled down and was a changed person as a result of being pregnant...and it's been an ongoing learning experience. I do think that parenting classes should maybe be a requirement for new parents and the classes should continue on for longer than just the pregnancy. Also , most pediatricians are open to give advice and answer any questions.
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@tdbrower1969 (1242)
• United States
3 Aug 07
I know it would be great if this could be done, but a lot of these people would probably be able to get through it with no problem. Some of the abuse cases have been investigated before by child welfare and the charges were dropped for whatever reason. I think people just need to step up and make the decision themselves to not harm children in any way, but that is a big dream, too. There are just some really sick people out there who don't think, or don't use the common sense they have when endagering their children. I also think that there are way too many people who get enjoyment out of abusing children. If we lived in a perfect world, this might help, but since we don't I don't see any help for it. The only thing that helps is if people speak up about abuse when they witness it instead of sitting next door and listening to the abuse or watching the abuse happen to a child.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
4 Aug 07
Yes, I agree more ppl do need to speak up. Years ago I had to turn my brother in for leaving a belt mark on my nephews upper leg. I cried like crazy that I had to do it but I couldn't sit by and do nothing and my brother refused to talk to me to explain telling me they were his kids and he'd do what he wanted with them. They talked to him and it got resolved. I didn't get to see my niece or nephew for about a year but it was still worth it...my brother learned about using his hand on the butt or using a corner...anything but leaving marks on them.
@brendakaya (2332)
• United States
4 Aug 07
I don't think you're crazy, at all. I agree with everything you said. There are way too many kids out there living in abusive homes. Some will survive them, but unfortunately, others won't. Even those that survive them, don't have an easy life, and have to live with it, their entire life. Yes, I agree, if they abuse those that they have, they shouldn't be allowed to have anymore.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
10 Aug 07
I agree even those that survive will more than likely end up with some psychological issues later in life. Some say that abuse is an unending cycle going from parent to child for generations. I don't know whether I'd go that far but I do think that if a child grows up in an abusive home and sees that behavior they are more at risk to repeat it then someone who never saw it. I hope that makes sense.
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@wotfpatty (2065)
• United States
2 Aug 07
As a mother, I just can't fathom how these parents can put their kids in microwaves, leave them to suffer in hot cars, leave them alone while they go out, etc. I think part of the problem is that there is no help or education for many parents. It takes no intelligence to have a child. I don't know if there is a way to know who will or won't be a good parent but, after someone abuses their children, I don't feel they should have the right to just have more and continue on. Children are people and we need to protect these little people.
Once someone is convicted of child abuse on a level such as you mentioned, I think that they should not be allowed to have any more children. I just don't believe abuse stops after one or two times. These people aren't able to deal with the stress and responsibility that comes with having children.
Of course, we all snap at our kids (verbally) when under stress but I am talking about the horrific abuse that some children endure sometimes for years. No parent should be allowed to go ahead and produce another life and do the same thing.
Can they be counseled and educated? I don't know. I don't know if anyone can be that ignorant to put a baby in a microwave or leave a toddler in a smoldering car for hours without knowing grave harm will come to them. I think these people need jail, counseling, and sterilization.
Yes, it's a tough stance but abuse is rising and little children are suffering at the hands of the people who gave them life. Something has to be done. The Child Protection Agency does a terrible job enforcing the rules and watching out for the safety of children. There are just too many out of control people having babies and abusing them for any agency to deal with. My heart goes out to those kids and I only wish there was something I could do. I adore my sons and would do anything to keep them from hurting. I can't imagine not having that instinct....
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@crystalhailie (147)
• United States
3 Aug 07
You are right i think that alot of people need to check many parents that they dont to avoid these things happeining i mean i am a mother of 2 and never do i leave my children in a car locked up with no air or any thing like that or beating them i do use time out and go to room i bad but there i a difference and i still feel bad i will pump gas and pull up to front and leave air on and run inside but if the line is long i take my kids out with me but if i cant get like straight in and throw money down and i try to pump gas only when people are with me and all so that is like once a month and i make sure the car is on i take the door locking key with me leave the car running and run in adn aout like not even a minuite. But alot of people treat their kids badly and noone is doing anything until it is too late people need to rep[ort the first time they see it or every thing and people are scared to and it think it is bull and all. i mean it is crazy and all.but you are right i love my kids too much to things like that and could not imagine why anyone would want to do it.
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@chari_dc (492)
• Philippines
3 Aug 07
i do not have a precise way of stopping child abuse. it pains me to know that this is happening to so many children but at the same time, sort of glad that i had a happy childhood and that my own children now are not experiencing any of this. it makes me thankful to god that i am in my situation, not theirs. however, it has made me ponder on what i can do to help. in the process, i can also teach my own children how lucky they are and teach them to help others who are not as lucky.
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@KarenO52 (2950)
• United States
2 Aug 07
I wouldn't want to infringe on anyone's rights to have children, but there are so many mothers that shouldn't have even considered having a child. I've seen too many who think that just because they gave birth, that makes them a mother. Recently on the news, they've been talking about a child that was found wandering around a truck stop motel pool. They had to do a search for the parents, and they found the mom sitting in the motel bar so drunk she forgot she left her child wandering around.
I know these days, when parents leave the hospital with a new baby, it's mandatory that the car the baby goes home in has a proper child seat. Perhaps, they should also enforce a crash course in parenting or require proof of having had taken a parenting course. In the old days, extended families were there to offer support, and help with proper care. Neighbors also helped more. Today everyone works, and neighbors are strangers, so abuse, neglect, and foolish behavior on the part of the parents often goes on without much notice until something really bad happens.
I agree with you that cruel, and abusive parents shouldn't be allowed to have anymore children. The children's rights to a safe and loving home should override parental rights
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
3 Aug 07
Now you may be on to something...when my husband and I became foster parents we had to take parenting classes. They could also make ppl wanting to have children or who have children take these type of classes and an additional class each year. Something to stop all this senseless violence against children.
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@r00tkiller (51)
• Macedonia
3 Aug 07
i really hate abusing children they are potential killers and maniacs ...mostly it happen with those children or going into asylum that is that what we can do ? simply call 911 :) and they surely have to arrest them that is their job
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
3 Aug 07
You are exactly right. Some people have no business procreating. They are not ready to become parents and some never will be. Unfortunately, it is unrealistic to consider that there is any way to stop people who should not be parents from having children. There is no way to tell what type of parent a person will be until they are actually a parent. I have seen some very wayward people do a complete turn around in their lifestyle upon becoming parents...who'd of guessed? Likewise, I have seen some that would appear to have it all together, turn out to be not so good when it comes to parenting. ...then there are those that really are for the most part loving,caring parents and some event or even a moment of poor judgement tosses them into a really bad situation. I do think there are laws in place that perhaps need improving upon. If a parent has been proven to be negligent or abusive, then by all means, that child should be removed from the home. In some cases the parents are just ignorant in how to be parents and maybe parenting classes and a mentor that visits the home regularly could be helpful. Each and every situation is different and should be treated as such.