Why?

1 and 2 I don't have kids. 3/ I work for the public library system in my area. Our libraries have a childrens area that is in a different area than the regular items that are not for children. this is to reduce the sounds that kids make. It's great to take your children to the library at a young age. Our library also has many programs for children of all ages. Sometimes it's story times and sometimes it's actual programs. One of our most popular recently is totsercize. Which is excercise for toddlers. They love magic shows and puppet shows and music programs which get put on too. These shows are usually also done in a different area of the library as well so that the kids can have fun. It's easier to get a young child to read and develop the habit young than trying to get an older child to read. The myth that one should be quiet in the library is also that of ...a myth! Libraries are not quiet these days and as a matter of fact more often than not Teenagers are the ones who are asked to leave. not people wih young children who are loud. lastly...our libraries also have quiet areas that are designated for people who wish that the library myth to be quiet were true. Children usually do not go in there. So my answer to number 3 is No. As the library system that I work for currently has 17 branches and is in the top 20 library systems in the country we do everything we can to keep children occupied and to keep the people who want quiet happy and do not ask loud children to leave.

Last week I was at Walmart when my son decided to behave similarly. He threw things out of the cart, pulled things off the shelves and threw them on the floor and screamed a lot. I did the best I could to put everythign back where it went and calm him down. I wasn't entirely successful. It was extremely stressful for me. My son is Autistic and non-verbal, so he doesn't really understand yet what makes "acceptable" public behavior. I try to get him to clean up after himself and sometimes it works. Most times it doesn't. It really all depends on the whole picture. If someone asked me to leave because of my son's behavior, no doubt they would have felt like an @ss when I explained that my son is not simply misbehaving. It's possible that the kid that you witnessed didn't understand that her behavior is "unacceptable."

I would have made my sons pick up the CD's and told them if they did it one more time that we would leave. If they did it again I would take them by the hand and leave the library. I have done this in restarants before. A couple of times of seeing that you really will leave then they seem to get the message. As to the last question, yes if you have been told to be quiet that you are in library and they continue to not listen and be loud then they should be asked to leave.

Hello Pablo, Children are children, are children. We were all young once and we would quite likely have been like these children at least occasionally. :P 1) So, what about your children? Do you expect the best behavior? If they don't behave do you just leave the place? I don't have any kids yet but I would want them to be well-behaved. There are times for playing and there are times for playing. 2) Do you make your children clean up their messes that they make in a public place? I think this would help them to be responsible and independent. 3) Should parents with very loud children be asked to leave the library? They should be asked to keep their children behaved.

I've had to leave stores once or twice when my children were misbehaving. I don't think I ever had a major problem with them at a library. Some children are more difficult to keep under control than others. It isn't always about bad parenting. Having the child put the CD's back herself is a great idea. IF you can get her to do it. It sounds like at that moment the child was beyond cooperation. It is very difficult sometimes to make a child behave in public. When my children were younger, I would find myself second guessing my reaction to their behavior because I was too concerned about what the people around me were thinking. You will always have people thinking you are either reacting to harshly or you are being too permissive. The fact is, no matter how you parent, you will always run into critics about what you choose to do. Now, when I come across a parent in a difficult situation with their children, I feel sympathetic toward them and usually I just thank God, it's not me. Kids do grow up, and generally they gain more self controll as they get older. Parenting does matter, but a childs nature is also a factor in how they behave. There is only so much you can do to affect how a child behaves. Discipline is important, but you can't cross the line to abuse.

my daughter is 21 months old, one thing i observed about her is, when i am doing my groceries, she will also take something from the shelves and show it to me, but when i say no, we will not buy that she will return it properly.. i remember one time, we were in a music store, i was buying her nursery rhymes, she will also pick some cd's and show it to me, and again, when i say return it she will do so... i have never have problem with my kid even when we went to a bookstore.... i dont know.... but if ever she throw a fit or misbehave in a suppose to be quiet place, we'll leave...

Sounds like you were visiting the library in my town! The parents in this town are notorious for not teaching their children any manners or discipline. The child should have been made to put the CDs back and then one of the parents should have taken the child out of the library so as to not disturb others! Honestly, what did they expect out children that young? I'm sure the children were bored to tears and attempting to entertain themselves.

I would have told the kids to put the Cds back on the shelf, and if they did not,slap them on the hand. If they persisted, they would be out of the library, and would tell them, "we were planning to go out for ice cream (or something the kids would have loved) but because you misbehaved, we're going home and there will be no Tv. You go straight to your room."

I for one would never take my almost 2 year old to the library unless it were in the children's section. The library is supposed to be a quiet place were people can read and do research in peace. They close the children's section of the library off from the other part of the library for a reason. While some toddlers may be perfect angels out in public others can be rather loud. That comes with the age. My daughter does not misbehave very often but she can get rather loud and excited at times. It's not that she's throwing a fit or being bad. She may just get excited about something she sees and get rather vocal about it. It's hard to make a 2 year old understand that they need to use their "inside voices". For this reason alone I won't take my daughter to any section of the library besides the children's part. And if I did the moment she started getting loud I would leave right away.

yes, I would have made my child pick up the cds herself. If she was having a particularly bad day, I would have left the library before being told to do so. After all, If she is acting up and I am constantly needing to reprimand her then I would not be able to browse and pick out books myself. Librarys are supposed to be quiet and peaceful...a place where one can relax, study, read and above all...concentrate! I am very surprised that the librarian did not say anything to this woman.

I don't think the mother should hit the child in the library. A good parent is supposed to lead the chid into the right way rather than push him/her into the right way. A child is a child after all. He/she doesn't have much common sense and is always naughty. Of course, parents have the responsibility to be children's guidances teaching them what is right and what is wrong as well as make up the fault for children's wrongdoing.