Shold a child be privy to family discussions?
By rinkub
@rinkub (231)
India
August 7, 2007 10:36pm CST
How important is it for a child to participate in family discussions? Sometimes, while my husband and I are talking, perhaps discussing some family matter, finances or some relative or friend, or airing our grievances to each other, my child either happens to be there and listens on, or hearing raised voices or maybe catching a bit of some interesting gossip just gravitates to the scene of action. He's an only child so he's completely involved with our lives and with family matters. Is it correct? What do you feel? Should it be encouraged or should a child be kept away from all this? After all, he's part of the family and everything affects him as well.
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@mari_skye (1637)
• Philippines
8 Aug 07
When I was a child, I remember I was always told to go outside or to another room when adults are discussing something. Only when I was in my late teenage years when I was allowed to join my parents or relatives' discussions. I guess they have discerned that I am already in the right age to relate to the situation or at least handle whatever I will hear or say.
I am not a parent so I think I am not in the position to suggest something in your case. The paragraph above is just to tell you what my parents did. I hope it will help.
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@rinkub (231)
• India
8 Aug 07
Thanks a lot. Actually, as a family we've gone through so many ups and downs and our son has been actively involved in all of it, that its become a habit for him to be around when anything is being discussed. I've seen many parents order their children out of the room at certain times but I feel the kids just get too curious. Well, I really do not know. But I'll definitely make a conscious effort to keep him out of things unpalatable.
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@PunkyMcPunk (1477)
• Canada
8 Aug 07
I was never involved in family discussions, none of the children in the family were. Mom and dad always used to set time aside when we were gone to bed (bed time was 9 PM until you were 15 years old then it increased by an hour each year until you were 18 and then you made your own bed time). Mom and dad would stay up and have a coffee/tea together out in the kitchen and I think that was their time together to unwind, relax, and talk. At the time we were young and didn't realize. We just knew it was bed time. As we grew up we found out it was parental discussion time and that's how it remained.
We did have "family discussion" which included ALL kids and all ages. We would sit at the table on a Wednesday night and each of us would get our time to speak. We would discuss everything from homework and choores, to extra curriculars, babysitting, etc... We would also be able to discuss any beefs we had with the other kids at this time too. Please keep in mind that I had 3 siblings but my parents also fostered 5 children and we had 3 cousins living with us too. BIG family.
My parents would not discuss their family finances not matter what age we were.
Also, when visitors came over, us kids would go into the living room and watch tv or more than likely we'd be outside playing (we were like wild monkeys hanging from trees at all hours of the night until mom would call us back in the house for supper). But we knew that when mom and dad had company we were quiet-as quiet as 12 children can be. We would only go out to the kitchen/dining room when we REALLY had to.
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@rinkub (231)
• India
11 Aug 07
Kudos to your parents. Thats a really nice way to bring up children. Wish we were so mature and wise ourselves. But thats a good example to follow. Actually, I've always felt that large families are always good for kids as they are wrapped up in themselves and have a lot of diversions. They are busy with each other leaving the parents with some time to themselves as well as being heard themselves. That way, the time spent with the adults is really precious to them and they look forward to those times. I feel meals should always be shared by the whole family. As the proverb goes, the family that eats together stays together. But with today's hectic schedules, members of the family just walk in and out of the house as they feel, whenever ther feel, eat when they feel and hardly spend any time together!
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@PunkyMcPunk (1477)
• Canada
17 Aug 07
I agree I love big families but it wasn't in the book for me. I was only able to have 1 child and have been told it would be dangerous (health wise) to have anymore. But I think that coming from a big family made me learn how to mediate rather than fight, taught me how to share, co-operate, and gave me good people skills!
@samtaylorskykierajen (7977)
• Canada
9 Aug 07
I believe this depends on what topic is being discussed , if he is old enough to hear what you are talking about but you would know what he could or could not handle and what he shoudln't hear because of his age but as he gets older then he would be able to participate even more but if you and your husband are fighting then I don't believe he should be a part of this only because this will scare him as he won't understand why you are fighting and will feel bound to pick a side when he shouldn't have to pick sides when it comes to parents . But as his parent you should be a pretty good judge on your own child and I woudln't worry about how you are doing things , there is no where that you have indicated that it seems to be affecting him so I would keep going with your own instincts as each parent knows their own child better then anyone else and each parent can have different idea's about what their child should and should not know and the truth is none of them are wrong as their is no rule book on how to raise our children so their is no right or wrong way to do this unless your child was being hurt somehow .
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@rinkub (231)
• India
11 Aug 07
Actually, it did affect my seven year old boy and it affected him badly. His grades suffered, he felt insecure and developed a whole lot of tics. I remember a time when my husband and I had a really bad fight once and I dragged my son into the quarrel and told him I was leaving and to choose which parent he wanted to live with. I remember him pushing himself into a corner, then slowly crumbling on to his kness and joining his hand as he said, I want to live with both of you, tears rolling down his cheeks. I'll never forget that scene and that has made me determine that no matter what I'll never be the one to walk out of the marriage, come what may! And I do not discuss much in front of my son. Actually I don't discuss much with my husband either any longer unless its somethimg that will affect the whole family and try to keep my son out of the discussion. He's a sensitive boy and I know he's discussed all this with my parents and bared his heart out to them.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
8 Aug 07
I'm thinking it can't be good. You don't say how old your child is. When children are involved too much in personal matters such as what you mentioned they take on the stress as an adult. Also they tend to repeat things they hear at home and often they repeat them wrong or percieve things differently than how they really are. money matters? well I have always been honest in telling my girls that we can't afford certain things...they know we are not well off but I don't discuss my stress and worrying about paying the bills etc....they don't need that added stress in their lives.
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
12 Aug 07
Thats funny. I had forgotten this until reading your answer here. My oldest (now 30) used to worry about our bills when she was about that age. I guess we were probably guilty of stressing about them in front of her back then. She would open them and then say, " now mom, how do we plan on coming up with the money for this one?!" She too used to tend to pop into the kitchen whenever I was visiting with a friend and quietly sit and listen. Now its all coming back as to why I answered as I did! Thanks for the memorys!
@rinkub (231)
• India
11 Aug 07
Well, my son's nearly eight and since ours is a nuclear family consisting of just us three, he's been privy to almost all our conversations, including our fights and arguments. In fact, whenever he hears raised voices, he's on tenterhooks, gravitates towards the room and then asks us whether its a discussion or an argument going on. At one time, when we were going through a family crisis, he would listen in to all the talk and it affected him badly as even his performance in school deteriorated. Today, we are more careful and we do hope he gradually forgets all the unpleasant stuff he's heard. And yes, there have been occasions when he has let drop precious quotes of his parents in company thoroughly embarrassing us in the process. I've had to tell him again and again not to disclose family secrets...,thats the language he understands! How innocent can kids be!
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@MonAmb (126)
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8 Aug 07
Well i am not a parent but if the discussion is clean and will not worry the child, i think it is important to involve the child in discussios, this will helphim socialise and the child will not feel 'left out' from not being allowed to be involved with their parents discussions. It my make the child feel 'less important' in the household and it is not nice to feel 'left out' in your own family, believe me, i know. I also agree that the child is part of the family and he/she has a right to be involved to a certain extent.
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@rinkub (231)
• India
11 Aug 07
Actually, it also depends on the child's age. There are some issues which should be discussed before the kids only if they are grown up. For instance, if a relative or a friend is being discussed and the child knows the person, it would perhaps make him judgemental about that person if the kid's small. If the child's grown up, the person can be discussed as it may not affect the child's opinion or image of that person since its already been formed. But whatever it is even if the child had been part of a discussion, everything should be explained to the child because bits of information can do more damage than good. The whole story needs to be told.
@Philxav (733)
• Malaysia
9 Aug 07
I understand how you feel. As for me I think it's good and ok if your child is there when u having discussion with your spouce. This will help him to open his mind and make him to think and understand what you discussing but ofcourse the child wont be giving you any kind of opinions but it will make him to know how about his family and surroundings. Moreover, he won't feel left alone. Having discussion with raised voice should be avoided when your child is around. As you know the kids easily absorb whatever they see or hear. Therefore, its always better to have a decent conversation even its a serious matters when your child is around it will help to educate him indirectly. I'm sure you want him to be the best for both of you so both of you.. give him the best of you.
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@rinkub (231)
• India
11 Aug 07
Yes, thats true. But as I've said, sometimes we adults are so selfish that just to prove our point or feel substantiated, we drag our children into all this unpleasantness. I'm guilty of it and I've seen how it has affected my child. Mostly its been unintentional but there have been times its been with the sole purpose of spiting my husband when I've been mad at him. It was wrong of me and now I try to keep my child out of such discussions as far as possible.
@mansha (6298)
• India
10 Aug 07
May be discussing finaces and grievances could be the topics the child can be kept out of maybe visits if positively being discussed should be the thing child can be involved in to. Kids are sensetive and I agree the conversations do stay with them and there's always a chance of their blurting out something in front of others and that could be embarrassing. They tend to copy adult behavior and style unconciously so its best to watch your tongue while speaking in front of the kids.
I remember as a kid I heard my parents joking to each other about who will die first. Both of them wanting to be the first ones. I spoke to my cousine just a year old to me about it and she said who do you think should go first and then both of us excersied our seven and eight year old brains that led us to believe that okay mom should go first as father is more important as I can may be learn to cook(like they show in movies) and fahter can continue to bring money home as that part seemed a bit difficult to us. I still smile when I remember that discussion with my cousine. Still that day was a very tense evening for us. Imagine tyhe guilt I felt as my father passed away few years later. Somewhere I thought may be We wished so thats why God punished us. That is why I always feel may be we can spare our kids that guilt and that stress if we can keep them away from such stressful discussions.
@rinkub (231)
• India
11 Aug 07
I totally agree with you. Sometimes, its unintentional on the part of parents to get their children involved in these discussions. It might be just a stray statement or comment or even a joke but for children everything said is like Gospel especially if mouthed by parents. Harmless statements can turn to be dangerous interpretations. I once remember, when I was five and was getting ready for school and my dad was shaving and I told him I didn't want to return home that day in the school bus. Casually he said he'll come to pick me up in his car. My school got over at one and I purposely missed my bus that day and kept waiting for him at the traffic signal. It was late, 5.30 in the evening and getting dark. He never turned up. Finally a taxi owner found me waiting and took me home. While I was getting off the taxi, dad was getting off his car on his return from office and asked me nonchalantly why I was getting off the taxi. It didn't strike him even then that it was night and I was returning from school! He had clean forgotten!
So, I'm very careful what I say to my child and I make only those promises which I can keep. And children don't forget. They carry their childhood baggages for their entire lifetimes!
@wiccania (3360)
• United States
8 Aug 07
I think that it's a good idea to involve them to a degree. But you should try to keep it positive. Sleeping arrangements when a family member is coming to visit or where to go on vacation. Maybe even on where to cut back if you need to save some money. But if it's something that could be frightening (like the possibility of losing your home), those are the kind of discussions that the child shouldn't be privy to.
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@rinkub (231)
• India
8 Aug 07
Actually,he's already heard so much! But thanks, I'll keep your suggestion in mind for the future. Discussing things when he's not around, out to play or in school is a good idea. Children tend to get very precocious too and at times blurt out things which are private in front of others.