what happens if next year WATER will be the fuel of every car instead of GAS?
By joshboz
@joshboz (1209)
Australia
August 8, 2007 1:22am CST
we all know that the petroleum reserve worldwide are depleting rapidly and that every country are challenge to find a way to provide solution to this great threat. first of all what do you imagine if everybody use water as fuel instead of gas? is it all good? do you think the countries that supply much petroleum will object this?will every country try to claim every ocean or sea in the world just to have a source of fuel? is this okay? if you would be asked would you really like water as the real solution or would you prefer other like the newly invented electric runned cars or hydrogen fueled car, biofuel, alcohol.etc....
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21 responses
@pismeof (855)
• United States
8 Aug 07
First of all ,Water isn't combustible which means the only way to create the power for propulsion is to create steam .So now you need to use coal or wood to heat the water.That's how trains worked.This isn't very practicle for an automobile .There isn't any way to produce enough power unless you want to travel about 10 miles per hour.Hydrogen gas seems way to dangerous to me.The best solution would probably be a combination methanol and electric.
What we need to figure out is how to grow a sufficient amount of corn for the methanol.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
thank you for your opinion you have a point but today scientist are trying to solve the puzzle how can they break the h20( water) into pure hydrogen which is able to run cars. Also, there are signs of hope that water can be a fuel like the infamous daniel dingel of the philippines have discovered some years ago and some canadian scientists recently who dont want to reveal HOW in the internet but promise to show it to the world soon. yes as for now bio fuel is a good option such as methanol from corn or ethanol from sugar cane. tnx for responding!
@gloria777 (1674)
• India
8 Aug 07
The main problem will be with Oil companies and countries depending on production of oils. Ofcourse there will be financial instability and the whole picture of finance will be changed. Finally the Arab countries will come to streets..
@JBrulez (663)
• Philippines
8 Aug 07
It will be nice for us who belong in the Third-world countries because we do suffer from the price of gas nowadays. But oil producing countries and petroleum countries will be totally against this discovery, the life of the one who discovered the experiment would certainly be in great danger because these oil-producing countries would do anything to prevent this form happening. I personally will patronize that idea because life will be more cheaper here in my own country especially we are rich in water so there will be no problem with regards to the resouce. The only thing the government needs to worry about is how to maintain and protect this water resource that we have.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
yes sir youre probably right youre opinion are siding the poor country who does not have any petroluem resources such as the philippines. do you believe that if water was made fuel, this can produce world war 3 greater than the religion wars right now?what do you imagine every countries will fight to earn a spot or territory on every ocean and sea around the world just to have a sure supply area of water as fuel? For now, it is impossible to think countries will divide the ocean and seas as their own territory but this idea is not far from becoming true when water becomes fuel.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
youre right about that. i hope it wont rich up to that point and i hope government official worldwide should realized these before its too late. there should be a joint council to prevent war from this cause since it shouldnt be this way what we all want is water to be a substitute for oil, not war oor money making country. water is still abundant for everybody. would you imagine if the icebergs melt?then everyone have enough water as fuel for a period of time.
@JBrulez (663)
• Philippines
8 Aug 07
World WAr 3 will be inevitable if this happens. Religion will no longer be a an issue here, it will be more of territory. The target are those countries that lye close to bodies of water. Colonization will take place and the poor countries are the ones who will suffer, take for example the Philippines. It is a country rich with water resource for it is an archipelago consisting of almost 7000 islands. The big countries like the US will do everything in their power to take control of this poor country. They will divert their attention from the middle east to countries that possess water resouces because oil is no longer in demand..
@dayong1113cn (311)
• China
8 Aug 07
if the water is used as fuel,i think the first thing to do is desalination of the sea.
but if people can use water as fuel,desalination is not a question in science.
when water become the main feul of cars,the price of gas and petrolem will be down and down.and the biggest impact will be brought to mid-east countries.
but the problem ,whether now and future ,is how to protect the recouce !
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
yes your right but would you also agree if water was made as fuel then it also means competition for every country to possess every sea and ocean out there? can this factor produce war that maybe worldwide? i would love to hear more of your opinion about it?
@Aghorri (86)
• United States
8 Aug 07
Steam power is actually a very poor source of energy in comparison to oil. That is why it lost out to petroleum in the early days of car manufacture. But hydrogen is approximately equal to oil in terms of energy produced and is much safer than you think. It has the added advantage that it can be obtained from water by electrolysis and the product of burning it is... water! It is the nearest we will ever get to a completely renewable energy source.
Until recently, the big problem with hydrogen has been that its production from water requires large amounts of electricity - which is supplied by power plants running on (guess what) fossil fuels. But a breakthrough was made recently at Perdue University where they discovered that adding an aluminum alloy to water produces hydrogen gas - they are setting up a company to start production and we can hope that development of the idea will lead to all our cars running on hydrogen in the future. The discovery also has the advantage that, since the hydrogen can be produced as and when required, no large holding tank is required and so the danger of an explosion is virtually non-existent.
Bio-fuels are a very poor option. They require enormous amounts of land to be turned over to bio-fuel plant production and, since this land can no longer be used for food production, food prices go up. This has already happened in Mexico, where the cost of corn has risen above the level that the poor can afford because so much corn is being bought by the States for bio-fuel production.
If there is an answer to the problem, hydrogen is it.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
9 Aug 07
wow, i didnt know about that. your information is really helpful, so maybe that's the newest update on the dream of making water fuelled car. it just give mehope that sooner or later it will become true. i only hope price will of the car or the fuel also increases
@Aghorri (86)
• United States
9 Aug 07
That's the beauty of it, Josh - water is plentiful so they can hardly charge a lot for it. The cost will come from the aluminum alloy pellets required - but even these are cheap and easy to make. There's just no way they can charge us more than present gas prices for the new fuel therefore.
And the cars won't cost any more to make either. Our current gasoline-driven engines can be adapted very easily to run on hydrogen - people have been doing this for over fifty years and it works. Just a simple adaptation and your car can run on hydrogen.
You see now why I say it's the fuel of the future? ;)
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
9 Aug 07
Even though this could happen and might happen, it does not mean that it will, at least not in a year.
@wurrmed (177)
• Philippines
9 Aug 07
of course it is a very big advantage especially
on countries that is not rich on fuel.
In the Philippines Eng. Daniel Dengel invented
a water fueled engine but not sure where he is now
he could have save Philippine's economy
@satansoldat_666 (412)
• Philippines
8 Aug 07
well yeah that would be good since water is virtually limtiless and could be found anywhere.But the OPEC nations will object since they will loose a big share of the world's wealth through oil.And i dont think water will raise prices since water, unlike oil is available anywhere and could be taken from any source but our technology is nit that advanced to extract hydrogen molecules from water efficently in autmobile engines but i hope they will
@satansoldat_666 (412)
• Philippines
9 Aug 07
Well yeah but no oen can easily claim water since most countries have access to bodies of water since water is anywhere but huge strategic water resouirces cannot be easily claimed
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
every word you say i think has a point and i agree with your opinion that not everybody will be happy like the OPEC nations and that water is expected to be cheap since it is available around. i only hope that every nation should not again consider the body of bodies of waters to be similar to land that it can become their sole territory or possesion since now it is virtually free.
@psyche49f (2502)
• Philippines
8 Aug 07
With prices of petroleum products going up by leaps and bounds, water as fuel is a welcome development, although to make it a reality is just wishful thinking. Of course, it is possible, but it will make oil-producing countries go bankcrupt, if that's the case. I remember there was an attempt to invent cars fueled by water, but I'm not sure what happened to it; what I'm sure is that it did not succeed. But with man's ingenuity, it's very possible, although I doubt it if those who are producing oil will take it sitting down. For economic reasons, they will block all forms of threat to their 'business', and will frustrate every attempts at discovering better alternatives to fuel. How I wish this would one day happen...
@kringkles (51)
• Philippines
8 Aug 07
It will be very ideal but the thing is, since oil companies makes billions of dollars with petroleums and gasolines, they will not give up the fight to withdraw the idea of having water or other abundant element as a replacement for their product. Since these companies are influential to the government they will make way to discourage people to support this idea.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
9 Aug 07
yes you are right, there are always villain in every show but we could only hope that water can be made as fuel someday since all humans benefit from it. water is more abundant than oil and somehow near future the oil supplies depletes, and oil suplying countries themselves will open to the idea. aside from tthis, water is also abundant and i think it is a more environmental friendly fuel.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
8 Aug 07
That would be pretty darn cool for a while and yes there would be a lot of flak from those who profit so much from the fuel. It would be no time though before the price of water was jacked up and yes..they would all be scrounging to lay claim on all water sources. It would be another reason for them all to fight i would imagine.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
you are right me too, imagine if those icebergs melted due to global warming. the excess water instead of creating tsunami, sink islands,create flood,etc....it might be use as a fuel for every car in the world. i hope also that the cost of water will not increase too much.
@sticktoexecute (37)
• Philippines
9 Aug 07
If water will replace gas as fuel, then these oil companies may already have the means or technology how to use it. but first they will suppress this knowledge or technology from the public and suck first their oil reserves dry. When no more oil, then they will introduce water as a fuel source. Having the technology, they will become not the oil companies anymore but the water fuel companies. I agree that water is everywhere but then again I really guess that the technology to use it as fuel may cost a lot. And another thing is, if water will be fuel then this resource may also deplete very very rapidly. I guess what's more advantageous is to develop solar technology, or other energy producing technology.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
9 Aug 07
yes you are right maybe oil companies sooner or later turn out to be water supplier. water is abundant for a period of a long time. remember the icebergs in both poles. if these melts due to global warming then i believe water must be utilized further and as afuel it will be a great help. your right, water is still a resource depletable and we can also propse alternatives such as electric fuelled car, pure hydrogen fulled car, air fuelled car and solar car.
@wisedragon (2325)
• Philippines
8 Aug 07
That would indeed be great especially for the environment. Imagine the reduction in emissions from cars. Let's hope the technology will be available soon.
But then you also have to think about the availability of water. Right now we have to pay for clean drinking water. If water becomes fuel, its price would skyrocket. Some parts of the world have a scarcity of water. Those countries would have a hard time coping.
We need to explore all possibilities. Right now I'm very interested in the hybrid cars, those that run on a combination of gasoline and electric batteries. It's a major step in the right direction. From there we can go to hydrogen fuel cells.
As consumers our role is to patronize these "environment-friendly" products so that the producers would be encouraged to continuously come up with environment-friendly technology. Let's forget about sports cars and gas-guzzling SUVs!
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
yes i believe in what you say. we must use what is environmental friendly and what you have suggested is a good way of starting it. i only hope that these environmetally friendly cars become affordable for everyone not only for millionaires who can afford it after all we all benefit from it. i also believe that the water supplies are usually salty and this is not suitable as a fuel. hence, they require purification. the purification process can also add up to the possible increase in price even water is abundant here on earth.
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@MonAmb (126)
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8 Aug 07
Well i think there would be a major scramble by every country in the world to get their hands on the seas and oceans. I think the governments would also try to put some sort of fee or taxes on water, because they would not be earning any money from petrol or oil anymore. Also countries like Saudi Arabia will lose alot of money from loss of oil sales. I think overall, it would be great for the environment and great for everyday people like you and me but to governments, life is business and they need to be a successful business.
@joshboz (1209)
• Australia
8 Aug 07
you are right but i only hope that war cannot occur due to this factor. what i mean is that, countries who have powers may think to divide the bodies of water as their territories and as source of income to countries who have no access to water such as inland contries. but most of all water as fuel is good in nature since it is economically freindly and it is more abundant than petroleum.