adding years to life
fifty and sixty the new forty
people are living longer
what would you do
would you if you could
If you could add years to your life--how many and what would you do?
@Perspectives (7131)
Canada
August 11, 2007 12:59am CST
It wasn't that many years ago that living to 40 was considered old. Now people are saying that 50..or even 60 is the new forty. So with lifespans increasing I wondered if you would add years to your life. How many would you add? And why?
After overcoming 2 eating disorders and numerous other health problems when I was younger I would certainly extend my life indefinitely if my biology could remain vital and strong. The reason I would like to enjoy life extension is there is still much I want to do.
Also it always seemed ironic that we learn, change and hopefully become wiser, more spiritual, loving, generous and compassonate as we age...and then die. I think it would be great to be able to continue to share those invaluable life lessons with others and hopefully have a positive impact on the world...indefinitely. What do you think...would you or wouldn't you add years to your life, and what would you do if you could?
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@wenzie (4)
• Philippines
11 Aug 07
if i have the chance to add years to my life i would like to continue helping other people at the same time spend time with my family since ive been very busy this year with my work and my studies because i believed that family is the most important thing in this world but sometimes we forgot to spend time due to many responsibility and task that we need also to give importance and attention.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
Hi Wenzie...welcome to Mylot...and thanks for adding your ideas to the topic. I agree with you family and valued friends are a responsibility. I certainly value both the longer I am here. When busy and distracted it takes commitment to keep in touch and carve out time for those we love.
My reason for wanting to add years to my life is that it would provide more time to assiting others and hopefully having a positive impact in large and small ways. I guess all any of us can do is to take care of the bodies we have and try to live a balanced, happy life...and see how things outwork.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
12 Aug 07
I figure if I live as long as my mom who is now 87 . that will add 20 more years to me. I will be doing good but I think I would want to die before I had to go to an assitant living quarters like here. But then My daughter says I am staying right here . So dont need to worry about that.
I owuld like Grand daughter some older so I can take her traveling and explore things like ghost towns and old mining towns the have out here. GO rock hunting I dont know what we will look for just pick up pretty rocke that will drive her mom crazy for she thinks I have enough now lol.
But then again I dont know if I want to live that long If my health fails.
Seems like every thing I want to do tho cost money and there isnt very much for me to spend on things I would like to do.
I guess I am doing all I want to except travel right now read and learning more about things and plaecs I will never got to see but by reading them in books.
And I really would like to go on a dig find aceint bones and pottery and all kids of treasures I just got to go see the pueblos in the cliffs and I know there are alot of things to see and do just If I can get around to doing them instead of setting here baby sitting. SHe better grow fast lol So we can do all this
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
Here we go again...sharing a discussion and learning more about each other. I am delighted to know you love to do the same things that give me such pleasure. Who knows maybe one day we could go rock hounding together. I have a home filled with special nature treasures and baskets of rocks I have gathered along my discovery trails.
What a blessing you must be to your grandaughter. She and you must have great fun gathering rocks and treasures with special energies. I also love old abandoned buildings and ghost towns and could spend a lot of my 'extended years' scouting around them. My goal is to get a good quality metal detector and see what other discoveries lie beneath the surface.
As I have said to other contributors having a good gene pool can go a long way to adding years to our own lives. Good to know your daughter will support you in your advancing years and have you remain close to her. You sound like an active involved person with a great attitude...in my view all those things go a long way to making life rich and full...at any age.
Thanks again for your comments...you are a valued part of any sharing circle my friend!
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
13 Aug 07
Oh yes a metal detector!
always wanted one and when I had money after I sold the house in Tenn I wish I had got one but I put into house , yard and gambled lol
Y a know what ya need to come down here and we go to ghost towns together what about that something to think about huh?
hugs and blesssings
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
13 Aug 07
Yes, it is something to think about. We honeymooned in Moah, Utah and hope to travel back down that way and your way sometime in the next few years. If we keep chatting and sharing who knows...we could end up with metal detectors in hand exploring old sites. What great fun that would be! I love the idea!
Anyway, keep on doing what you do so well...and know that I appreciate our chats and learning more about who we are and what we like to do. We'll keep it going...that I am sure of.
Contiued blessings to you and yours!
@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
11 Aug 07
Wow! Another thinker.
I would expect no less from your great mind. :D
Giving this one some thought. Back later. Nevaeh is here to take my mind of Corey...little angel is doing the trick already, lol.
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
11 Aug 07
Ok, Nevaeh is sleeping and it's too hot att to work outside this nice cool office, lol.
If I could extend my life in years, would I?
Probably so. Got lots of stuff to get done, i.e. waking the apathetic, watching Nevaeh grow up, etc. I'd like to live long enough to see peace on earth as well. Yep, I am a dreamer. hahahaha
If a long life is not in store for me, then at least let it not be in vain. I hope to live long enough to make a difference (for the better, of course) in this world for future generations.
To take your discussion one step further, I would like to have the power to increase others' life-spans at will. I would like to see people's beloved pets live longer, healthier lives. I would like to cure the incurable, thus giving all who want it a longer life (everyone else can check out naturally). I would like to find a cure for mental diseases that cause some poor, warped individuals to want to kill, torture, or just be abusive in general. Not so everyone can be the same, but so everyone can have the equal opportunity to be happy and free.
It's too bad we can't just develop a live-and-let-live mindset for the entire world.
Great food for thought, my friend. Makes me want to get done what I can while I can. :)
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
Good to hear back from you...I just logged on and will check our you site for an update on how you are doing. You sound much better today.
My goodness..thank you for the 'big mind' cudo. I mentioned this before it means a lot coming from you...because I have immense respect for the way you think.
Your second posts is as always, thoughtful, insightful and interesting. It would be wonderful to be able to be here long enough to use our wise-woman life lessons in ways that could contribute to the greater good. In my personal quest for learning, understanding and enlightenment I have come to accept that with everything I've learned there is still so much more to "know." I also would love to have more time to learn and 'pay it forward' in whatever way will contribute to the greater good.
Your observations about those who are mentially, emotionally challenged and what is at the root of their behavior reveals your 'compassionate sight.' Why people do what they do and say is endlessly fascinating to me and having more time to understand that and look for realistic solutions would be a wonderful gift.
The thing I love about life is how much our clarity increases when we work to remove past emotional baggage. I know there are reasons for everything...we just have to be open to discovering what they are. So who knows...maybe discussions like this plant a seed of hope and can awaken latent possibilities that will eventually become a 'probablity.' Life extension....hmmmm lets keep the momentum going...because as I have said so often before...anything the mind can conceive and beleive...it can achieve. Great addition to the topic...thanks again!
@Darkwing (21583)
•
12 Aug 07
If I had the power to do so, and if my body could remain healthy and agile, then I would add a number of years to my life, because I think that you can never learn to much. However, as it stands, our bodies aren't built to last that long, which is why I believe that we are reborn into another body to continue our life's lessons. We just take a rest in between... a well earned one, no doubt, in preparation for our return.
There's still a lot I'd like to do, my friend, but I know I can do it when I return, refreshed, so I just live from day to day, learning what I can, and doing the things that take my desire. I'm still learning from day to day... I don't think you would ever learn everything, however long you lived on this Earth, but your time will come to return and learn a bit more.
When my time comes, I will be ready to cross the bridge to the Summerland, and take a well-earned breather and restock of what life is all about. :)
Brightest Blessings, my dear friend. x
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
13 Aug 07
Whatever way we do it...I am in absolute alignment with your views about the eternal aspects of our soul path. It is immensely liberating to believe that whatever we don't grasp in one life can be re-visited in a future one. For me this awareness has all but eliminating the 'efforting' approach to my journey.
I am also with you on the idea of learning as much as I can, taking responsible ownership for the vehicle I have and keeping it tuned up as best I can to keep it running smoothly...for as long as I can. However, with the views we share I am not terribly concerned about leaving this plane. I think that fear comes with people who do not feel they have an 'invisible' means of support...or those who feel they have never really lived. From what I have come to know about you...neither of those issues seem to be of concern. I am sure you will always find whatever you are looking for...most seeks do.
Anyway thank you for another wonderful addition to the sharing circle. Light filled wishes to you and yours.
@gmakesmoney (2923)
• United States
11 Aug 07
My paternal grandparents all lived to be at least 105 years old while my maternal grandparents did not live past 70. So I am hoping for some sort of happy medium, I don't know if I'd want to live to be as old as 105 but if my life were in a happy state then sure I'd do it.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
11 Aug 07
My goodness...you certainly have a great gene pool in your family...105 years is an outstanding age! I agree with you about advancing years...as long as they could be lived with a good quality of life.
I guess time will tell for all of us. Thanks for adding to the topic.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
11 Aug 07
My goodness...you certainly have a great gene pool in your family...105 years is an outstanding age! I agree with you about advancing years...as long as they could be lived with a good quality of life.
I guess time will tell for all of us. Thanks for adding to the topic.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
11 Aug 07
Every now and again I do this oopps...somehow I double post a response..sorry!
@insanity01 (48)
• Canada
3 Sep 07
I'm still young and there's not much motivation for me to do anything even with a life extension. However, one thing's for sure if I could add years to my life, I'd do so just to see humanity's learning curve with technology. To think that not many years ago we were using floppy disks with minimal space but now can buy a 50 pack of CDs for 15-20CAD. Normal DVDs are becoming obsolete with Blu-Ray technology and these are only the little things that great minds have come up with. I don't know much about the latest robotics development but I'm sure in a single year alone there would be much progress made. Everything is moving blindingly fast to a point where in the next decade or two the world as we know it may be completely unrecognizable.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
3 Sep 07
when I checked out your site to to the friend request I noticed you are a fellow Canadian. There are a few of us here.
I find you reasons for possibly extending your life very interesting. Your observations about humanity's learning curve with technology. My hubby is a specilist in computer technology and has aslo commented on the dramatic advancements over the last 30 years.
Your views about how rapidly the face of the world is a very good observation. Your particpation in the topics here are great additions...thanks!
@MrsFrizzle (1963)
• United States
12 Aug 07
If I could stay active and healthy I would not mind a few extra years however I see people living into their hundreds and they are not healthy or happy. They are wasting away in hospital beds and Nursing homes. We just keep healing our illnesses and living longer and longer. I would not want three extra years if it ment having to be taken care of and inconviancing the people I love. I would rather be resting in peace.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
13 Aug 07
No argument to your view...at all. Everyone who has said they would like to add years to their life would only want to do so if they were financially and physically independent with a lucid mind. I am so on the same page with you about leaving the body behind and letting my spirit rest in peach rather than hanging on to life by a thread of existence. No thanks! I hope to be like ancient elders who had enough wisdom to know that their journey was over...said in quietness and confidence.."Today is a good day to die...and left." That is what I hope to be my experience whenever the time comes.
Good perspective...thanks!
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
13 Aug 07
Ohhh do I like that simple...but very true attitude. When life is fun...and I agree with you that it is...we may just decide to stick around longer. Living, laughing, sharing, enjoying loved ones and friends indefinitely...sure works for me to.
Here's to having a fun filled life...yeah team!
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
12 Aug 07
No I would not want to add years to my life... not unless we can stay young at the same time. If at sixty I could be like a 30 year old... then I say "yes"... I want to live until 150.
Around 150 years ago... people were dying at 40. They were dying from sickness... not from old age.
In the 20th century... the advance of medecine prolonged life. As a result... we had to introduce social security... so that everyone could afford to see a doctor. As we prolonged life... and people reached the age of 65... we had to introduce the old age pension... so that people could keep on living when they were not fit to work anymore.
Right now we have a major problem. People keep on living longer and longer... but they still retire at 65... which mean that the cost of supporting those people living longer is increasing to the point were governments are considering not being able to pay the pension anymore. This has been in the news for several years.
I think some people become very wise, spiritual, loving, generous and compassionate between the age of 50 and 70. But by 75... they stop keeping up with the latest technology in everything... and they start going backwards... living with ideas of the past which are no longer valid.
Even if you manage to live until 75 without any major sickness... your energy to do things physically will have droped dramatically. You can still live an happy life... but it is nothing like the life you lived when you were 30 or even 40 and 50.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
13 Aug 07
As always I appreciate how you shine the lens on a topic and present different views. The social implications of life extension are valid. There is no doubt that increased numbers of people living to advanced years and not working could certainly put a strain on EVERYTHING.
So far comments from contributors to this topic has indicated that if adding years to their lives were possible...they would only want to do it if they could be active, vital, financially independent contributors to society. So I assumed that those who could/would increase their lifespan would intend to work at something they love so they could give back rather than just take up space on the planet.
I also have known people who begin to decline around 75...but in our group facilitation work with Creative Retirement Manitoba we have had the pleasure of interacting with many vibrant, intelligent people who keep up with the latest technology well into 75 and beyond. Some of them only began coming into the computer age in their 70's. They admittedly have a commitment to keeping their minds and bodies flexible and active and take a whole person approach to their aging process. Most of them continue to take Tai Chi, yoga and meditation classes and make life long learning part of their youthing versus aging approach. So once again, I go back to the aspect of free choice...life really is what you make it...at any age.
There are undeniable realities to consider in the dialogue...and you have certainly added some grounded perspectives to the topic and I thank you for that.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
12 Aug 07
Congrads on recovering from your eating disorder.I wouldn't want to add any years to my life.I don't know what I going to do with the time I have now. And you would be adding time to the end not the beginning or even the middle.If you could go back and re live your favorite time of your life a little longer, then that would be great.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
13 Aug 07
Thank you for your comments about the eating disorders. As tough and at times daunting as those compulsive coping patterns were...they led me to the work I now do. In my case the quotation that; "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is definitely true.
In regard to adding years in the middle...that is what I am doing and I am loving life way more now than I ever did in my 'youth.' My life really started to become a joyful experience after I reached forty...and it continues to be more so each day I am alive. With all that I have learned...and continue to learn I am in better health, mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally and even energetically than I ever was in the past. My tough life lessons have continually shown me that often if life we don't get what we WANT...we receive what we EXPECT.
Once I made up my mind to expect different results from the different choices I made...I actually got it. So in my case...(and that is all I am talking about here) I will continue to take the life I have in the present...and for as long as I am enjoying the ride...at any age. I have a metaphysical viewpoint on life and it goes basically like this...Thought plus emotion...creates conviction. Conviction and intention adds to our perception of reality. This perspective works for me...and until I find something that works more effectively I plan to keep on keeping on....through the rest of my middle and right to the end.
So sarahruthbeth22...thank you very much for adding your excellent views...your comments gave another reason to think...and clarify to you and others how I see things...and that is why this site is named what it is. The fun of sharing different perspectives!
@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
12 Aug 07
I am not so motivated to add years to my life as I would like to add comfort to my life. No, I don't mean just financial comfort - although that would make for a pleasant change :-). I mean physiological comfort - less pain and fatigue, more vigor and stamina.
If I could add those to my life I'd want more years. These days I'm so uncomfortable that I'm looking at the years ahead and wondering if they are going to continue to be this uncomfortable. I'm not really sure I want them if they are.
Sure, there are things I'd like to do that I haven't yet. But with my current state of physical discomfort I can't do most of them anyway.
So give me vigor, stamina, with less pain for however many years, months, weeks, or days I may have.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
13 Aug 07
It is hard to hear about how your physical challenges affect the quality of your life. From the short time I have shared ideas with you it is obvious that you contriubte much to those around you. I sincerely hope that as you ask for answers to assist you in your healing journey will be given. I understand that in living with discomfort and inability to do much of what you'd like to do that the idea of life extension does hold much appeal.
Hopefully in the not too distant future there will be a way that your heart's desire for vigor, stamina, less pain will materialize. In the meantime I do hope you will take as good care of yourself as you appear to do with everyone else.
Thanks again for saying what you DO say. Warmest regards.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
16 Aug 07
In Singapore there is actually the world's first anti-ageing island - all the latest techniques - people don't realize some of the most advanced doctors and scientist are in Singapore. In Switzerland is the clinic all the rich and famous go to turn back time. Its not just plastic surgery but cell rejuvination and other techniques.
I would turn back time and live longer. I would teach, learn, be and love. I would be a colonist when they start traveling to remote planets. I would continue to explore the world. I would go grow as a person.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
My goodness..such valuavle information...and wisdom about the prospects of life extension...thank you for both those perspectives. Great addition to the topic!
@DanaMark (807)
• United States
16 Aug 07
I used to think that if I could live a vital, healthy life, it wouldn't be so bad to die in the 60s. Now that I'm at 59, I'm beginning to rethink that. lol. Now I wouldn't mind living to 100 as long as I can stay healthy and active. I do not want to spend extra years if I can't be active. I don't want to be homebound, or in a nursing home. I want to be able to take care of myself.
Right now, what I want to do with the extra years enjoy sharing good times with my wife, watch my son continue to grow toward his potential, and watch my grandchildren grow up. I would like to play tennis with them, and golf with them. Some of that may involve helping to teach them. When I learned I would be a grandparent, I realized what a privilege it would be to help teach them and expand their horizons. I got to do that with my son, but as a grandfather I have more time, wisdom, and knowledge to share. Watching the world of a 4-year old and a 2-year old is such a joy. I want to have many active, healthy years to continue sharing that with them.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
I agree with you that it is far more about the quality of life than the quantity...and your reasons for wanting to stay are admirable. When you stop and think about it does seem rather ironic that we gain wisdom, spiritual understanding and emotional maturity and then have to contend with bodies that begin to be less functional and comfortable.
You appear to have much to offer not only to your wonderful grandchildren...but all those who have the pleasure on interacting with you and sharing in your many life experiences.
I sincerely wish for you whatever you wish for yourself...
Warm regards,
Raia
@punlonnjack (1308)
• United States
12 Aug 07
I think if I make it to 70 years old I will be happy. I want to live my life to the fullest and I realize Im not doing that. Growing old can be scary to me with health issues,retirement not enough money.Planning your future is a hard thing for me for some reason.Ive never been able to save.If i could add years to my life I would like to add saving to those years.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
Your admission that you are not living your fullest life is a big key to changing it. That one, I know from personal experience. The life coaching, group facilitation company I run with my husband is called Fresh Beginnings. We chose that name because in our own journey...and with most everyone with work with our message is...forget your past track record because each moment is a fresh beginning.
By thinking ahead...learning from errors in judgment and making different choices everything can and does change. Hopefully with those dynamics in place things will always improve through time. From all my years as a journalist and sharing ideas with others I have observed that those who are afraid to die are the ones who think they have never really lived.
I love to explore topics like this...but to me if we live each moment to the fullest...it is less important whether we extend our years or not. If we strive to are live our best life every day in every way...the quality will compensate for quantity. Anyway, thanks for your open, honest viewpoint.
Best wishes as you continue to discover all you need to know to enjoy your 'best life!'
@akumei1269 (1749)
• India
11 Aug 07
Your topic pertains to spiritual thought on one hand and practical on the other . I live the spiritual aspect to others .
Practically , if it would have been possible to determine the life span i would have added not less than 50 years and not more than ...i am not sure .
Because , personally I feel at this age of 38 years only i have realised myself my capabilities and that has been possible thru the technological advancement achieved in recent past . This does not indicate a headonistic view of life , i assure . I am not for mindless enjoyment of life . But what i mean is the potentials in every person that have got scope for being explored thru advancement in technology .
Since I now feel that i have much more potentials than I earlier percieved , i want a longer life to utilise them and derive more refined enjoyment through it . I need 50 years more than what my quota is.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
I can appreciate your views and observations and can see where you are coming from. The advancements are rather astounding when you compare where society is from even 100 years ago. Having more time definitely will allow each of us to explore our potentional in ways that we not possible in the last century. Things are changing rapidly and I would also like at least 50 or maybe even 100 to see what other exciting changes take place and how we will fit into that grand scheme.
Interesting viewpoint...thanks for your input...and perspective.
@pendragon (3349)
• United States
11 Aug 07
I believe I would add fourteen, cause that's how many i wasted with my first ex, that was a real waste of time.I deserve that back,lol!
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
Hopefully you will be able to have at least that amount. However, as we all know there comes a point when all that really matters is how we are choosing to make the most of whatever time we have.
Good luck with living your best life and cramming whatever time was wasted all the time you have! LOL
@sunshinecup (7871)
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11 Aug 07
Well I don't know how much cause I don't know how long I will live, but I don't want too many. I don't want to live to the point I can't move, you know? But I would so much love to live long enough to not only enjoy my Grandchildren, but my Great Grandchildren as well. My hubby's grand mother who is 80, just took our children (her great grand children) for a week. She wore them out! LOL. I would so love to be like her and have that experience.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
I absolutely agree with you on the not being able to be independent both financailly and physically, healthy, mobile, cognizient with a good quality of life overall. Your Great Grandmother sounds like a sweetheart. Sounds as though you have some good genetics in your family!LOL
From what I have come to know of you I feel safe in saying that your sunny, upbeat attitude will definitely keep those happy, healthy endorphins pumping through your system. That alone will ensure a good quality of life for as long as you are here...and add some of that sunshine to the lives of others to boot!
@ItTakesAllSorts (4096)
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11 Aug 07
I would definately add yeras onto my life if I could, maybe up to the age of 150.
Then I could be around to see what happens in the world and whether things will change one day for the better.
I would only want this though if I was rich enough to live a sustained work free life, was of sound body and mind and did not have to babysit all my future grand and great grand children!!
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
Your perspective closely mirrors an age that I would like to attain for similar and conditions. The great and grand baby part is not something I would have to concern myself about because we don't have kids. Of course if I was going to live that long...maybe being one of this older women who have kids later in life could be an option. Hmmmmm life extension does bring up some interesting alternatives to the life we are now living.
@rueandash1 (365)
• Australia
11 Aug 07
yes i believe until i had children i lived my life that didn't benefit my health and at the time neither did i care. but yes i have had children at a older age i am now 40 with two toddlers so yes my perspective has changed, yes we would like to go back and change our lives but we can't so i do believe its what we did yesterday helps us change as to how we act today.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
12 Aug 07
I see where you are coming from and agree with your view of the past. I remember reading somewhere that even God cannot change the past...so it is better to live in the present and move on. It is true that the valuable life learning we receive is the only thing to carry-over. By focusing on the present and thinking ahead we can eventually learn to make choices that improve the quality of life on every level...at any age. Your comments are appreciated.
@goddessglamourpuss (261)
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11 Aug 07
As a teenager I definately wanted to live forever but as i have got older and settled down with a family I find myself enjoying getting older - except for the grey hair lol.
I wouldn't like to add extra years, I think 80-90 years is plenty as i would have seen my children grow up and start their own families.
I think your concept of being around to impart wisdom indefinately is a nice ideal as we all wish for our older relations to still be around. However, I personally feel that if the older generation was going to hang around indefinately then we would become stagnant as we would not need to worry about learning new things as we have these 'guardians' to look out for us so we would just hang around and age. I believe that a limited life span makes us appreciate the time we have and it is the way in which we touch the lives of others before we die that is our true legacy.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
11 Aug 07
Part of the reason I wanted to create a discussion forum on this topic was to hear and share different perspectives. Your views are excellent...and I cannot argue with anything you say. I absolutely agree with the idea of limited lifespans and how it makes us appreciate the gift of life.
In Buddhist teachings they suggest that when we reach the point of acceptance about the reality of our mortality...that we truly value our time here and often decide to make the most of every moment.
Thank you for your wonderful insights to perspectives topics...you are a valued new on-line friend.