Women with low self-esteem and cameras

Sorry pen! I didn't mean it to come out that way! I was bothered by your lumping together all those beautiful women... Please believe me I didn't mean to be "Evil"..... have a nice day!

Thanks!Cheerio! :)

Just came back to this conversation after 4 weeks. Sorry. I just want to add here, that I think sometimes people confuse appreciation of natural beauty and sexuality with exploitation. I myself have trouble diffentiating when a man is truly appreciative of female beauty and when he is just being, well...a pig. The human body is a beautiful and so is sexuality, when it isn't being exploited. I think this is a huge problem in life. Some folks think all things related to sexuality are bad, some thing it's not and some just use it as a weapon to manipulate and exploit. It truly is difficult to figure who is who sometimes.

Thank you so much for answering and very intelligently too!this is one convo. that I really wanted opinions on! Yes, I do believe that a lot of women have the show-all feature in their brains with much enthusiasm and good intent, but the one's that I know...they just do so much damage to themselves and their relationships,(spouses,kids,even close friend relationships) because it is not a big well-paid,protected industry for them,it isn't sports illustrated or victoria's secret,something established, it's just them in a grimy,hurtful realm.nothing good ever comes from it, they don't get "discovered" or end up in movies, not the hollywood type anyhow.Anyways,THANKS,for responding, and conversing with me,it IS appreciated!!

Thanks for the best response and your comments. Sorry it took me so long to get back to this. I don't have e-mail notification set up, because I'd never get out of myLot if I did! Now I'll continue reading the rest of the responses. It looks like it turned out to be a great discussion.

That sounds like it surpases low self esteem and goes on to self hatred. What I mean is, they are take low self esteem to another level. I guess. It made me think of "cutters" for some reason. People who hurt themselves. I hope these women get the help that they need. Take care.

They go to therapy and lie, I know this because the people they are in therapy with cannot stand it anymore.I've been living with these people and issues too long to be a well meaning anything anymore, i simply want to understand it for myself,thanks.I did mean psychotic, psychotically cold,and disassociative,when approached about their behaviour.

Thank you for explaining, pendragon. You sound closer to the situation than I had at first understood you to be. It seems like this is causing a lot of distress for you. I very much hope that you personally can find a way to relieve your own distress. Also you have clarified that you chose the word "pyschotic" deliberately. I am not arguing with you, but you did not mention delusional thinking, which is what I thought "psychotic" meant. What you describe begins to sound pyschopathic - the coldness and lack of empathy. At any rate, it's not an argument, I was just wanting to understand what you were describing. As I said, I hope that you can find some way to relieve the distress this is causing you.

Just noticed that you said these women were "dissociative". I hope you have access to mental health professionals. It seems like a serious situation. Good luck.