My daughter wants to drop out of school!
By Cammeel1
@Cammeel1 (372)
United States
August 23, 2007 11:46am CST
My 16 year old has never enjoyed school or done very well. We had her tested for ADD but the doctor said it was a very mild case. Even so, we tried meds to see if that would help her to concentrate and improve her studies. It did not. Now only 3 days into the new school year she refused to get on the bus this morning. She says she has been thinking about it for over a month now and this is what she wants to do! I asked her how she thought she was going to support herself since she couldn't live in my home if she dropped out. She says she doesn't care if she doesn't have a high school diploma, she will just get a job at the dollar store and "get by". How sad is that? Her goals in life given up and a future of stuggling to make ends meet.
I have talked to her until I am blue in the face! I have cried, she has cried...it's been a very long morning. I am absolutely devastated that he would even think this is an option for her.
Advice? please
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13 responses
@Phoenix9 (59)
• Canada
23 Aug 07
There may be a deeper issue on why she does not want to attend school.
Is she having trouble with other students, are they bullying her, ridiculing her, making fun of her.
What about her teachers, not all teachers are a positive influence in children's lives.
If she wants to drop out, what about homeschooling. There are many postive aspects of homeschooling. Many of the homeschool children go on to univerisity and they do quite well from the stats.
Or another alternative is GED.
What is imporatant is that you don't kick her out. I have three children, my last is starting grade 7 this year.
Don't throw away your child, as parents we have to dig deeper and draw on strength we didn't know we had.
I know many families that have taken the homeschool route and their children do well. One family oldest is going in her firt year university, her grades are outstanding. My children do well in school, my youngest gets high grades.
However, I have always been prepared to work with alternatives when the need arises.
I hope that helps.
hugs from one parent to another.
@Cammeel1 (372)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Thank you for the hug Phoenix9! Those have definitely been needed today! I do not want to kick my child out. However I do believe in tough love. My Mom wasn;thard enough on me. I have told her time and time again she should have spanked me a time or two for all the BS i pu her through. Anyway, sorry for the sidetrack there, I am not ging to let my child sit home on the couch eating chips and being an unproductive human being when I knwo she is capable of so much more. If she has to find out the VERY hard way ( which will absolutely break my heart) that life isn't so easy and that an education is important, then I am willing to put her into that hard spot if the time comes. God knows I pray it does not.
I appreciate your thoughts and I do see what you mean. There are many alternatives out there and I will be the first to help her choose whihc alternative is for her, but only after she has put forth her very best effort in doing what she can do. She is not doing that now. She has the love and support of a caring family. ....I'm rambling, sorry, I am upset. Thank you again for your thoughts and comments. They truly are appreciated!
*hugs back*
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@Phoenix9 (59)
• Canada
24 Aug 07
Your welcome Cammeel. Feel free to express your feelings. I don't think you are rambling. You love your child and you want to see her do well in life. You are upset because you think at this point she is starting to throw it away. I agree with tough love, I am tough on my kids. At the same time, they do well and I vow they are going to not only finish high school, they have funds for their University years. I myself went back and obtained a BA degree, my kids have watched us climb to the top, so they are with the mind that they will go to University.
Every parent usually wants their children to do well and even do better then they did. I know how you feel and I am sending you another hug. You know your child better then anyone else. You know what is required to get her back on track, go with your feelings, and don't doubt your decisions.
Hugs again.
@Phoenix9 (59)
• Canada
24 Aug 07
Your welcome Cammeel.
I agree with you, you know your child better then anyone else. You know what makes her tick and what doesn't. Don't second guess your decisions, or doubt yourself.
You love your daughter which is why you are concerned and upset that she is throwing her future away. As parents we always want our children to do well and even become more successful then we were. I don't blame you for that. Feel free to express your feelings, when you are talking about them, you are also slowly formulating a resolution.
I am sending you another hug. I think you and your daughter will be able to come to an understanding and agreement.
Hugs again Cammeel
@ivyoon (673)
• United States
23 Aug 07
Many kids do not like the school environment. Does she have many friends in school? It could just be that she feels like she doesn't fit in there. I felt that way for a long time in highschool, but when I started making friends, I felt better about myself.
Does she have any interest in a trade school? Maybe she can take some vocational classes such as beauty school, auto tech, computer repair, etc. There are a lot of options in vo-tech and maybe learning a hands-on trade is a better option for her.
If all else fails, she will have to learn the lesson on her own. We can't protect them forever, and my motto is that whatever doesn't kill us will make us stronger.
I hope for the best for her and hope she finds her way and is happy in the future, no matter what she decides.
Good luck to you and God bless!
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@Cammeel1 (372)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Ivyoon,
My daughter has several close friends but there has been a lot of strife between them lately ( obviously part of the problem), a well as a recent break-up with a boyfriend. She is showing no interest in anything other than being at home in her room. I am going to get an appointment to have her see the doctor to make sure there is no clinical depression involved. I have continually asked her to get into a school club, join a team, anything to have her get out of the house more. She has always been the type to want to stay in her room listening to music or on the computer using Myspace.
And you are right, in the long run, if all else fails, the hard knocks in life will teach her. As her Mom I just don't want to see her have it so rough.
Thank you again for your kind words and good advice!!
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@post4jesus (97)
• Hungary
24 Aug 07
I have not been in this situation before, but I agree with ivyoon. Maybe she is just not happy in the current school community. Also maybe the other thing is that, because she has not done well before, maybe her self esteem is also shattered, how about agreeing on an easier school. As I understand the school will start in a few days so you are short on time to decide. I think that if you start to look for other schools, and until you decide that which school you could agree with her to go to the current school and then transfer within the school year.
I am now 25, and I remember the times and feelings I had at that age. I then was in the classical teen stuff, when I felt I was grown up enough, but at the same time I did not exactly know what I want to do with my life on the short and mid term. I just needed more freedom and that I would be treated as a responsible person who can make decisions on my own and needed TRUST and authority.
I think that a little climate change would also help. Maybe you could rent her a little apartment, so that she could feel valued a trusted.
You could also look for schools in neighboring towns (unless you live in a huge city).
@eachen2002 (889)
• United States
24 Aug 07
I would keep trying to persuade her to stay in.If not have you tried COVA.It's the Colorado Vocational Academy for home schooling,Look it up on the Internet, and could she take her GED test.I would also try maybe night school.It may not be the best solution but it's better than nothing.
@applecartronnie (1984)
• India
23 Aug 07
hold on to her school seat and ask her to get a job of her like, and she will understand in a months time what is good for her. also, when she is getting a bored or unhappy with her dollar shop job make it a point to invite some people who have earned their diplomas and are enjoying life so she gets to understand that that is the best for her, to study further.
all that i thought of, prayers, apple.
@applecartronnie (1984)
• India
23 Aug 07
relax. she is after all your daughter, she has to have some of your inteligence. she will understand soon.
apple.
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@ranitam22 (1146)
• United States
24 Aug 07
That is very sad, but it is happening more and more among teenagers. I don't know when going to school became an option. When I was younger, going to school was just what you knew had to be done until you turned 18 and graduated. Sure you skip classes or a couple days here and there, but to drop out completed was few and far between. Does your daughter state a specific reason why she doesn't want to go back to school? Are kids picking on her, it is something about her appearance or clothes she doesn't like? Any of those things can have a devastating effect on a teenager making them just want to give up and not go to school. teenagers have enough changes going on with their minds and bodies, i would hate for her to go up so early and regret it on down the line. it is sad when people lose all ambition and dream. I really don't know what you can say, she might need to hear it from somebody closer to her age or someone that dropped and out and feel that they didn't make the right decision about it. I'm sure she probably feels like you don't know what she's going through and she doesn't believe that it's that hard to make a living without an education. A lot of jobs these days don't check education backgrounds and some people do get good jobs, it just depends.
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@lantisb3 (114)
• Philippines
24 Aug 07
You should do everything within your means to stop her from dropping out because it will be very hard for her to come back once you've allowed her so skip school.
You should put your foot down and be firm that she stays in school.Education is the best inheritance that a person can have from their parents.material things can fade but education is with her all through her life.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
24 Aug 07
How difficult for both of you.
How did the appointment go? With more information, you might be able to help your daughter make a better plan than working at the dollar store and getting by. Everyone should have hopes, especially at 16.
There are a lot of options for kids like your daughter in the area that I live; I hope this is true of your area as well. They can try going to a different school, they can do an apprenticeship program where they go to school in the morning and work as an apprentice in the afternoon, they can try to test out and apply for college, or they can apply for vocational or trades schools.
@samtaylorskykierajen (7977)
• Canada
24 Aug 07
I went through this same situation when I took a seventeen year old girl in to live with us when she had no place to go . She had quit school when she was in grade six and had never went back . I was agast at the idea that she had been able to do this and that legally she had been allowed .
I talked to her constantly , spent many hours crying , talking to her and talking to the school . The school didn't want to take her back as she had been a problem child when she had been there as a child with disrupting the class and misbehaving .
In the end she agreed to go and now has her grade 10 and is going back this year for her grade 11 .
Do whatever you have to do to get her to go back . Children don't seem to realize that we don't want them to go for us but for themselves as it is them it will affect in the long run . Without an education she will forever struggle in life and will later regret her decisions she made when she was younger .
Talk to her , talk to her school if you have to , talk to the authrities if you have to but stick to your decsion about her not staying in your home if she doesn't stay in school . She needs to realize that you are doing this for her and that it is for her future .
Have her talk to others who have dropped out of school and let her see how it has affected their lives . Hopefully she will see that even though she does not like school , it is something she has to do for herself . She needs to realize in life we often have to do things we don't want to do but do them anyway because it is something that needs to be done to make our lives better .
I sympatize with you as it is hard when you are not sure what to do or even how to go about doing something to help our children realize that we only want what is best for them as it is them that will suffer in the long run .
Best of luck and hopefully she will realize how important education really is and how she will get so much further in life , even if she doesn't have the best of marks but has her grade twelve . Take Care !!!
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@samtaylorskykierajen (7977)
• Canada
28 Aug 07
Thank you , it is the name of my children . They are the most important part of my life so it seemed a fitting name .
I am sorry that I made you cry as that was not my intention . I know how hard it is and it seems so hard when we can see what is best for our children but we have no idea how to make them see this .
I still remember how insecure I felt in school when I was her age as well and I am not sure what anyone could have told me to take these insecurities away but know that talking can do so many wonders for our children when they realize that we do understand how they feel . I agree that the confidence a child has at the age of 16 can be such a fragile thing but letting her know that you and your husband went through this as well will show her that you both were able to pull through this and hopefully she will be able to see for herself the kind of people you are today and make the decision that is best for her . You and your husband sound like wonderful parents and with some time I am sure she will do what is best for her . You have showed her that you love her and you care for her very much and that you just want what is best for her and even if she doesn't see this right now , she will see this when she is older and will be greatful for all that you have done for her .Take Care and Best of luck ... hold strong !!
@crazed_moma (1054)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Is she depressed? not liking high school? It sounds like she needs some better aspirations! Yes a dollar store job will "get her by" but it will get old after a while.... IMO she needs to at least explore other options, correspondence courses, alternative school, GED...
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@nakedshadow0921 (139)
• Philippines
24 Aug 07
Well i guess, your daughter needs a little acceptance in her actions. Like what you said, she was treated with a mild case of ADD. SOmehow, regular academic curriculum can sufficient their needs. There will be a specialized program for these kids in order to enjoy and use fruitfully their attention disorder.
As in my case, I have a pupil having a add also. But I have advised their parents to try to see a Developmental Pediatrician to know what they can do to improve on their child's behavior as well as his outlook in life.
Your daughter showed a sign that she wants to prove something to you and that she wants to be independent. I know she felt what you felt when you cried in front of her. I definitely would say that she was moved with your little disappointment because you only wants the best for her.
Let your daughter take a decision. Later on, she will learn something and let her discover that.
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@Cammeel1 (372)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Thank you so much for your advice. I plan on following up with a doctors appointment and having her re-evaluated for any learning disabilities. She decided this morning after a long night talking with family and friends that she wanted to stay in school!
She left this morning with a smile on her face!
@nakedshadow0921 (139)
• Philippines
29 Aug 07
wow.. that's is a great news.. :D hope her motivation will last until she has graduated..
@ranitam22 (1146)
• United States
24 Aug 07
I am so happy too!!! This discussion kind've stuck with me I kept thinking of anything else I could tell you to help in the aid of her going to school. I have a college degree and I am struggling to make ends meet, I can just imagine the struggles it would be with no high school diploma. thank the Lord and Good luck to you!
@tcbechtold (2)
• United States
23 Aug 07
I am sorry to hear your daughter is having such a hard time enjoying school and has decided to drop out. Children now days are constantly hit with "bad influences" that seem to advicate good education as unimportant or unnecessary. Whenever my kids have issues with something I always try to dig below the surface to find the "real" reason for the distaste or lack of motivation. What's on the surface is usually a side effect to the actual problem. Your daughter may not be responding well to the conventional teaching techniques issued in the current school system and may require a special kind of school focusing on kids who, for example, experience test phobia or require hands-on teaching techniques. My girlfriend's son doesn't take tests well and responds better to hands-on teaching as opposed to learning out of books. It was recommended to her by a therapist to enroll him in a school in our area to address these needs. He also wanted to drop of school and this sounds to me to be the same situation your daughter may be experiencing. So check with any family counselor or therapist for recommendations to any of these alternative schools located in your area. If you let your daughter drop out, she will regret it - drop outs always do and they always say they wished they would have stuck with it.
@Cammeel1 (372)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Sound advice and well taken. I had already told her I want to make an appointment fist thing in the morning. I want to make sure there is no clinical depression there or that the ADD hasn't worsened. The underlying problem was the bst point you made. You are so very right that more often than not, kids act out when there is something else going on. Sadly though, it has been like pulling teeth trying to get he to talk to me about anything. She used to share her ideas, thoughts, and feelings with me and now she doesn't want to talk to me about anything at all. I won;t give up on her. I have told her that a million times today. Even if she want's to give up on herself at times, she will always have me fighting for her. I think she knows in her heart that this is a bad decision. She will come around.
I appreciate your comments and advice very much.
@janisspaggiari59 (656)
• United States
23 Apr 08
Quitting school is not the end of the world at age 16.My daughter quit at age 16,got her GED.She is going to college
and today having an interview as a lab tech.Whats the problem ? You are trying to force her to do something that is just too trying for her and sounds useless.You are very wrong to not want her to live in your home,wouldn't you
be concerned about her safety on the street ? Just roll with it and be there for her all the way.She can start out working at the dollar store,nothing wrong with that to start out and get experience in the real world.Its sad but
sometimes you have to face the facts when something is just not going to work for your child, don't push it and make
her feel bad.Just help guide her in what she can do.If you don't let her live with you if she should quit school then that is child abuse in my book.Good luck.I hope this helps.