Why are teachers so nasty?
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
India
August 24, 2007 2:53am CST
I just wanted to share my anguish with someone. My son is not very good at drawing and crafts. He is in the 3rd standard and though he tries, he is not excellent in these. I have never pressurized him into improving as I don’t subscribe to the notion that my son should come topper in everything he does. Now, they are given various topics for projects in school and though I help him out, the basic ideas and designs are his originally. But whenever he has submitted his projects, he has never had a word of encouragement from his teachers. We (mom & son) were like OK with it, co-sympathisers. But today was just too much. On August 28th is Rakhi, and they were given a project on this Indian festival, its origins, significance etc etc. I surfed the net for info, we went to the shops together for the photos and chart papers and yesterday till 12 in the night, mother and son toiled on it. Again I helped him from the sidelines, but the decorations, writings, layouts everything was his. Now he has just come back from school and called me up. With a small voice he said “mummum, aunty said she did not like my work, she took the charts of most of my friends, but returned mine”. Why are teachers so nasty? She may not have liked it but she could at least have taken it and then chucked it somewhere in the staff-room. It could atleast have encouraged my child and given him satisfactions that yes! His efforts have been appreciated. Couldn’t she have done this little for a small child?
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
24 Aug 07
Sudipta, it is really very touching and sad...that the 'wise' teacher did not acknowledge or appreciate your son's efforts (and somewhat your hidden efforts too). I entirely agree with you,if this kind of thing happens, it really hurts us.
I and my spouse go through the same drills and feelings, when we prepare some chart, project or craft piece etc. for our son, using all our skills, energy and money and the same is not appreciated by the Teacher.
Sometimes, it is just returned to my son with the comments 'It is Ok! Seen! Thanks'. We spend lot of time to prepare the charts etc. and the teacher does not even acknowledge that.
Teachers must be told in 'Parents-Teacher' meetings or any other such forum that each and every child needs recoginition and must be appreciated, irrespective of degree of efforts he/she and his/her parents make.
I feel some teachers take teaching as a routine job and forget that relationship between teacher and student has something to do with emotions and sentiments of children also and it is a very delicate relationship, which leaves everlasting impression on child's mind.
Please do not lose your heart or fee dishearterned, you and your son did your best efforts (YOU KNOW it very well), however, the teacher could not evaluate your sincere efforts in the right spirit. It is a bad reflection on that Teacher not on you.
Have a nice day and happy weekend!
deepak
@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
24 Aug 07
please read 'feel' in place of 'fee'
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
24 Aug 07
Deepak,
Though painful, yet it has really made me feel nice that someone in similar shoes has to go through the same behaviour from teachers in India. My problem is, though I draw quite well, I never do it for my son. I guide him but that's all. I don’t want him to grow up with the notion that mom will do everything for him and by proxy, he will be an expert in whatever he does. He must learn to accept the fact that he cannot be good at everything, he will excel in some while failing in some. But teachers, as you say, must encourage all children equally. However, in India the situation is still very much against us parents, and you know very well, how the grades of our children are dependent of the teachers, so we parents dare not protest too much. Thanks for your reply. Hope you have a nice weekend with your family.
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
24 Aug 07
Before, I write my thoughts, I must say, you write so beautifully and nicely that it appears any seasoned or an expert 'WRITER' is penning down her thoughts in a lucid manner.. Kudos to you for your excellent piece of writing.
I endorse your views and I appreciate your line of thinking that everything should not be done for your son by you, he should also learn to do certain things on his own. I try to follow the same approach, but sometimes, when my son....finds it difficult, me or my spouse does help him. I really really appreciate your thought and I liked it very much (I will apply it to my kids also) that your son must learn to accept that he cannot be expert in all the crafts.
Yes, you are very right, even if we wish we cannot protest to teachers at schools for fear of antognising them against our kids. We just keep mum or keep quite and bear the whims and facnies of teachers. I feel very irritating at the behaviour of some of the teachers, who dictate terms to students (including my son) and bully & intimidate them to execute silly tasks.
Thanks for your counter-comments.
Hope you will have a nice weekend with your family.
:) :)
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@anonymili (3138)
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28 Aug 07
This post made me so sad. I know teachers in India are more strict and serious that they are, for example, in the UK - kids have a lot more respect for teachers out there - you really would be shocked to hear the sort of behaviour kids get away with in schools here and how disrespectful they are to teachers for no reason, but teachers here are used to it and put up with it.
I am disgusted that your son's teacher behaved like this though - I have never had the inclination to go into teaching - I don't have the patience BUT I know (even though I have no kids of my own) how important it is to praise children for their efforts and nurture them. This teacher should not be teaching if she shows favouritism to some children and neglects others. What an awful woman! All children should be encouraged when they do something - even if it not perfect they should be given credit for trying. UGH I wonder why this woman even went into the teaching profession if she has no idea how to treat kids. God forbid she ever has children and someone makes her child feel so bad! xx
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
29 Aug 07
Thanks for the response, though I must admit that she didn’t do it purposefully. Teachers here are so full of self-importance and students and parents are so in awe of them, that it has almost become the norm to ignore child psychology and follow the archaic rules of discipline. And you cant say anything against teachers in Indian schools as your ward’s results are entirely dependent on them!
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@anonymili (3138)
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29 Aug 07
Oh I would certainly hope that the teacher would not do that sort of thing intentionally as she would have no place being a teacher whatsoever if she deliberately set out to hurt a child's feelings - that would just be out of order! What I meant was that anyone responsible for a child's well-being, be it a teacher, babysitter, child-minder, etc, should have some knowledge of child psychology and what NOT to do to children. If children are not encouraged from an early age, it can affect them adversely in later life which we want to prevent at all costs don't we? :)
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
6 Nov 07
she's really rude. as his teacher she has a responsibility to her students to encourage them to do their best but her method is not nice. all i can think is that maybe she has something against your son or against you. or maybe she doesn't just like your son. some people are like that. although i can never understand how a teacher would be like that to small kids. kids are very sensitive while growing up and they need proper attention. even if a teacher doesn't like a child, she should never take it personally because her duty is to be that child's second parent. i think you should talk to that teacher and straight things out. she's not being a good influence to your kid.
@MisterPlus (1915)
• Philippines
1 Dec 07
There are so many teachers who don't have any idea what's going to be when did something very bad to a student. It is very important that before you become a teacher you should have known every aspect of any implications you can do to a child so that we will have a better future. I always see to it that the teachers of my only nephew know at least something about child psychology so that everything will be fine for my 5 year old nephew. My suggestion to you is you report that teacher to the principal to be corrected. Or transfer your child to a school with better understanding of every child.
@BayleighGray (4334)
• United States
11 Sep 07
Hi sudiptacallingu,
That is just awful!! Your exactly right, where is her common sense?? Did she miss the psychology classes on her quest to become a teacher to small chldren? Everyone knows, seems common sense to me, that excitement from an adult will surely enthuse the child. Even though he may not be the best artist his efforts should have been praised first and foremost.
I thought teachers were here to aid children in excelling and achieving things. Sounds like this teacher is hindering your son, and I think you should speak with the officals of the school about this. How does she react to him in areas where he does excel?? I hope she gives him some sort of encouragement.
Best Wishses
xx
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
12 Sep 07
the worst part is that here in india things dont work that way. your child's rankings for the entire year is in the hands of the teachers so you have to careful what you say. no principal will accept offhand that a teacher from her school is guilty.
it was no big deal either, i just wanted her to accept and then chuck it off later.
anyway, mother & son have got over it by now. some good did come off it though, son has accepted that he can't please everybody everytime in life LOL!
@prxch_18 (143)
• India
2 Dec 07
teachers never accepts there fault that is the only reason why they scolds other. i had once encountered a teacher who had a little knowledge about the subject but we didn't objected for a while but when we did she started ignoring us and complaining about us to the principal......
there was a situation when we were looked by other teachers as if we are the bad students but some of us even topped the school...
so my point is that you shouldn't let the teacher do this to your son...
this creates lack of encouragement, self-belief and confidence. don't be afraid talk to the teacher. she should know her fault.....
atlest talk infront of your son with the teacher so that he should atleast take you as his support......
@SViswan (12051)
• India
2 Nov 07
I've been a teacher myself and have a son in 2nd grade. I've always believed that teachers should encourage a child's efforts more than the work..there's always something nice they can say about a child's work. It probably is just globs of paint but 'Wow! It's so colourful' would encourage the child to do more.
Fortunately, my son has lovely teachers who encourage...even when I feel that his work is really not upto the mark (though I don't tell him so), his teachers have always told him what's good about it. Not his art teacher though...lol (but she never criticizes his work and she told me that each child has a different kind of creativity).
What the teacher could have done if it was really so bad (which I seriously doubt...c'mon he's a 3rd grader trying his best), was to make him come up again with his own ideas and suggestedhow he could have made it better (a little less colour here would have made it a little pleasant to the eye... or maybe a lighter border would have helped to focus on the information...or something like that)
@DesigningLife (903)
• United States
23 Oct 07
I'm so sorry to hear this. Thankfully, your child has you as his cheerleader! You sound like a terrific mother.
My children and I have encountered similar things in the US. I would say the majority of our teachers are dedicated, professional, and caring - which says a lot considering how badly they can be treated and disrespected in the US, but we did encounter an entire school system on the east side of Michigan that seemed to be bent on forcing kids to perform or act the way they wanted by belittling them and hurting their feelings.
My daughter was slower to learn and was also very quiet and shy. In the 6th grade she had two teachers who worked as a team...this is common here (half the day with one teacher, the other half of day with the other for middle school). Anyway, they would "whisper" awful things about her continually among themselves, try to tell me these things during conferences (knowing my daughter was fully aware they were trashing her as a person - they got off on that), and would ridicule and embarrass her (and her attempt to do the work right) in front of the class as often as possible. The school board stood behind their actions too.
Meanwhile, my daughter needed mental health counseling to overcome the effects of what they had done to her.
If that was not bad enough, this same school had a man from the community open one of the main doors to the school and open his coat to reveal himself naked. The superintendent did NOT call the police and was the only one with the authority (why?) to do so. I only know this because my Mother's friend worked at the school and witnessed the entire event and how they shrugged it off.
There were accounts from other parents about this school emotionally abusing it's students. In one case, a child had somehow broken an ankle on the school bus ride (another child accidentally fell on him), and the driver yelled at the child to remain seated and quiet for the entire one hour bus ride home. The driver refused to call in the accident or get help for the child.
Your son is obviously supported by you and I have no doubt that you will be able to get him through until this rough time (or class) is over.
@touchnshine (2821)
• India
29 Aug 07
Dear Sudipta
Well that is so sad to read about the plight of your child in school. It happened with me too many times .. You know I never knew how to do drawing .. and still today I can't draw anything properly. I used to take help from my family members many times and they did drawing for me many times. One day I draw a whole experiment of test tubes in Chemistry and as what I believe it was looking good .. and it was my first drawing .. so I was quite happy that I am finally into drawing but I did not got any kind of appreciation from my teacher .. though I got the appreciation from my friends .. and it was enough for me. I always had good and motivating friends :) and that is enough for me .. Teachers were always like a nightmare to me.
@singlepixel (2743)
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6 Sep 07
that teacher wasn't doing her job professionally. I'd give her a nasty 'D' in 'motivation for students'...that's just not her area, obviously.
@eskay007 (72)
• Israel
25 Oct 07
What happened was very pathetic. But I feel the way you went about it was wrong (sorry). I believe nobody will hear your story and will not feel bad about the teacher. But the truth is we as parents are also not doing enough for our children's teachers.
Something similar happened to me and my daughter too. But after getting tired of complaining to my wife at home, I went to the school and waited till after the closing period then met the teacher and had a personal discussion with her. I told her everything, the length of time it always take us to do school projects, the effort that we put, what we go through, and the need for encouragement so that the girl will do more, etc. She started by apologising (!) and then explain why she rejected the project, the things that my daughter did not do, the things that she should be doing, etc. This discussion change my perception of her and we became good friends.
The most important thing I got from the discussion is that most parents don't take time off to go and meet with their wards teachers and discuss as partners with a common goal. We either sit down and complain at home or go to the school and complain to the supervisor. Teachers are human too and need encouragement so also are our children. the relationship should be symbiotic. we should not just sit down and believe that since we are paying our school fees we must get the best. This does not always happen.
@die_roboter (4)
• Bosnia And Herzegovina
2 Nov 07
Well,some people are simply jerks.
They can get a degree as a teacher but can't change who the are and their state of mind.
They are still those morons.their education doesn't change a thing.
It doesn't make them a better person.
come on,things like these happen and they will probably happen again.
the world isn't always fair.(far from that)
I know you put a lot of effort in that project,but I think you'll get over it.
anyways,it's too early to worry about his grades-as you said-he's just a little child.
Leave the worrying for his highschool days.
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@die_roboter (4)
• Bosnia And Herzegovina
2 Nov 07
well,some people are simply jerks.
they can get a degree as teachers,but they will never change their state of mind.
no argue about that.
relax,these things happen.
I know you put a plenty of effort into the project but you're gonna forget it.
come on,life 's not always fair.
Yeah,he's still a small kid so you shouldn't be too worried about his grades.
Leave that for his highschool days.