Is this iresponsible

Australia
September 1, 2007 9:18am CST
There is this lady I know she has 4 kids (3 boys and 1 girl) all of the kids a disabled (same condition) and its a major disability where they cant look after them self and all that. She lost 1 baby because the same condition afected him so much he only lived 3-4 days. Doctors told her not to have any more kids as chances are they would have the same condition and because both her and husband are cariers of the condition the odds are something like 99% they would have it. So anyway in December 2006 she told me she was off the pill as she wanted to have another baby. I asked her about what doctors told her she said well its my choice and I dont care about that I just want to have another child. Well she is now due in nevember to have her 6th child. What do you think about this (she was told last week this baby has the condition as well as she had all the tests done).
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@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
27 Feb 08
As a person with a disability, I'm offended by the tone of this conversation. I can't "look after myself either" whatever that means - I don't dress myself, transfer myself in and out of my whelchair, groom myself, or use the bathroom independently. If I wanted kids that would be my decision. I would teach how to manage their own lives with support, as I do.
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
28 Feb 08
I have cerebral palsy, too. It's not transmissible, but when I adopt kids (as I'm planning to) they will have disabilities because I feel like I'm more capble of treating them independent living skills that they would need. Yes, they're going to have government support in terms of PCA care, as I do, but I will provide for most of there needs (I have three jobs) and teach them how to navigate the system in order to have the best life possible. This my not be the choice some people would elect, given my impairment and the fact I won't (and can't) care them physically myself, but as long as I'm a good mom; it's nobody's business.
• Australia
28 Feb 08
thats the whole point been a good parent. She puts her self before her kids she dosnt provide proper care and treatment for the kids. You say you will teach your kids how to cope she dosnt and its only a time when she will start giving this kids out to institutions or foster homes. You are in best position to tell us how hard it is been disabled judged by people, not been able to do every day things. I know how people react around my son how kids avoid playing with him because he catn comunicate well my heart hurts every time he is left alone in the playground but I will always be there for him and never give up on him. That is not how she feels about it. In my eyes mother should do everything she can to make her childs life easier. She she had 6 kids knowing that with each child she will have less time, money, energy to spend with the rest of the kids and they miss big time.
• Australia
28 Feb 08
Sorry you feel that way but let me tell you disability is something I dont lough at. My son has autism my father is legaly blind, my cousin has cerebral palsy (sorry if I misspeled the word). The kids are severly intelectually disabled. None of them have the mental ability pass what a 18 month old would do (and even that is pushing it). The issue is not only that what she is doing but also the lack of care those kids have and qulity of life. Having 1 child with disability is hard I know that I live that life. I am a disability worker and I have seen it all I know where these kids will end up in few years time and she even sais it her self that she would not be able to cope for much longer so how fair is that for the little kids.
• United States
1 Sep 07
I am the mother of a disabled child. She has Angelman Syndrome and I will be caring for her for life. Of course I don't carry the gene I was tested and I do have an older daughter who is the exact opposite and a year ahead in school. I do think it isn't right to have a child knowing the hardships the child will have to endure if you have a 99% chance of that child having it and you knew before conception. I do not believe in abortion under any circumstances. I do understand some religions like Catholics don't believe in birth control so then I wouldn't blame the lady, but if she was on the pill I am guessing she is not a Catholic since they don't believe in birth control. My daughter goes through numerous medical hardships that can be down right hard for a mother to watch. Plus she has epilepsy. If I knew all my other children would be like her I wouldn't have any more I would just adopt.
• Australia
1 Sep 07
My son has a mild form of autism and its just plain hard some days. Would I have onother child knowing that there is a posibility of it having it probably not. But I am not talking about mild disability. This is full on (11 year old in diapers, problems walking, talking, feeding, coordination I mean the whole deal) her 7 year old is peg fed (a hole in the abdomen) they cant play with other children. She sais she is a Catholic (i dont think her husband is) but she is not religius at all. My heart goes out for the little kids (3, 7, 9 and 11)
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• Australia
3 Sep 07
when it comes to her religion thats what she sais that she does not practice but she is a catholic. the group that we meet all the parents have 1 child with some kind of disability and none of our child have that many health problems and none of us get it with her.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
2 Sep 07
I think this is irresponsible. Not only to the child yet to be born, but to the children who she already is responsible for. If she was on birth control, then she cannot be using the fact that she is Catholic to continually have children, and she is just having more for the fun of it? If she didn't know this would happen, then I can sort of understand, but raising a child with a disability is a lot of work, and having another child who has a good chance of having a similar disability is unfair to the first - they deserve the best possible care. Of course, if it is a minor disability, or you can afford a lot of therapy, then the effect is mitigated. But to have 4 disabled children already when each of the older two sounds like they need full time attention and care?
• Australia
2 Sep 07
They all need full time care and attention. she is not using religion as an excuse for anything she sais that she was raised catholic but does not care one bit abour religion. Oh and once I was talking to her about my religion (orthodox) and said that when we fast we dont eat meat and she goes well we dont ever eat meat we eat chicken (someone corect me but I think chicken is meat as well)
@phon4u (2215)
• Laos
2 Sep 07
It is sad that they can not have the next baby. Her physical is not ready for a baby to be born. She should listen to the doctor.
• Australia
3 Sep 07
oh she is having the baby but it would be disabled with the same condition as his brothers and sister they dont know if its going to survave or not as the last one didnt.
• United States
1 Sep 07
There are people all over the world who love and care for disabled children and non-disabled children all the time. I think that as long as the children are well cared for, it is the parents decision to have more children or not. I would not want to bring children into the world knowing that they would all suffer this condition, but if the parents want more children and are able to deal with all the problems then I feel that is up to them. My cousin and her husband have tried 5 times altogether to have healthy children, they have some DNA problems and 2 out of the 5 children did not make it because they had vital organs missing when they were born. It was hard, but they wanted 3 children and they got them in the end, but it was a hard battle. I think it is everyones choice who is a responsible parent, and I know that some religions don't let you decide to not have children when there are problems. I guess it is hard to understand, and I feel like I am rambling now. I just think that we have so many bad parents in the world who don't want their own healthy children, that if someone decides to have children who will have medical problems all their lives, more power to them. Children are gifts from God, no matter how healthy or not, and for whatever reason these children are supposed to be here with these parents. This is just my opinion.
• United States
3 Sep 07
Then in that case she is not truly loving and caring for her children unconditionally. That is the biggest part of having children is to love and care for them unconditionally.
• Australia
2 Sep 07
Everyone that knows her knows that sooner or later she would have her children placed at a home or institution with the oldest she has hard time controling him and caring for him let alone when they are all teenagers and adults.
@leonarda (92)
• Bulgaria
2 Sep 07
I find this simply disgusting? How could she be so selfish? I feel sorry or all the kids she is having!
• Australia
3 Sep 07
I do as well the kids have done nothing wrong they never asked to be born they deserve all the best things but.....
• Bulgaria
3 Sep 07
I also think that she is using the kids as a meal ticket, which is even more disgusting. In cases like these, I start to believe that some people must be banned from having kids.
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
1 Sep 07
I think its her choice. I don't believe it makes her a bad person for wanting another baby. She knew the chances. At least she takes care of her kids and doesn't let the disability stop her love for them. Some people find out their child has a disability and then don't want them. So she needs some credit. And besides, disability or not, kids are special and desreve a chance at life. So I don't find anything wrong with it. If she is willing to take on the challenge, then let her. :)
• Australia
1 Sep 07
I know its her choice and I am not saying she is a bad person. I have a sone with a disability (mild) it does not stop me loving him but I know how hard it is. They live with social payments and she cant even provide good medical care for them. eg. none of the kids can talk and she cant get them therapists for that. There is next to no therapy for any of the kids.
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
2 Sep 07
Not only it is irresponsible... but it is right down disgraceful. That woman is amongst the most selfish people on Earth. She has no regards for the planet or other people. No only she populate an already over populated planet... but she also drain the government through medical assistance and special aid needs. And I would imagine that her husband and her don't work either... so the government has to support them as well. This family is probably costing the taxpayer $3000 a month or more... while it has never contributed a cent to the system. There should be a law to desexe those people... just like we do with cats. After all those people behave like animals... and so they deserve to be treated like animals.
• Australia
2 Sep 07
No they never worked as she was born in australia went to spain when she was young and came back when she was about 20 and got married soon after. Husband does not work (they say he has epilepsy and bad back)
@beckish (641)
• United States
1 Sep 07
I am having a hard time understanding why she would want to continue having children knowing that they will have poor quality of life because of the disability. It may be that she needs to feel wanted and needed, and having children that will always need her fulfills that need. I think she needs counseling so that she can meet her needs in other ways. What a sad situation.
• China
1 Sep 07
it sounds that the lady hasn't confess the truth that if they have another baby,the same problem would never disappear. it is just fancy in their head that they can give birth to healthy baby as others. what they have to do is to confront the reality,and thinking about how to raise 4 kids.