How low can they get?
By violeta_va
@violeta_va (4831)
Australia
September 6, 2007 3:46am CST
I am not a big fan of the door to door religius groups, and they know it. I am not abusive or anything but I tell them I am not interested and if they can please not come any more. Anyway these 2 guys came last week and I told them the same thing and they left. Today I was painting at the back of the house and my 4 year old (that has mild disability and very limited language) was driving his bike in the yard (both back and front yard) the gates were closed and every few minutes I would check on him. So I called for him to come over and there was no answer so I stoped what I was doing and went to check him. When I saw him he was standing with a loli pop (and a pamflet) in his hand and 2 guys (same as last week) were kneeling next to him telling him in these wors (....so you can tell you mummy and daddy there is lots of kids there and lots of sweets and free food and drinks....) I grabed the pamflet of him and the lolly pop abd they got up and started to explain what was the pamflet about. By this time I was so angry and asked if they knew what they were doing and how wrong it was. One of them said "listen lady dont need to get mad we are just doing our job" I told him to get out of my property before I call the police as what they were doing is a new low for them braibing little kids and puting them in danger. I walked off shaking.
How low is that; first they come to my home, bribe an intelectially disabled kid with a lolly (oh my god how pedofilic is that); they push their religion onto a 4 year old kid.
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10 responses
@sephrenia (567)
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6 Sep 07
I have to say that is pretty low. They sure as heck shouldn't be talking to a 4 year old kid by himself if they can't get the parent to agree. That is the worst form of persuasion there is and trying to get him to tell mummy that you get free food and drink?! that is seriously messed up in the ehad.
Apart from anything they are leaving themselves wide open to being sued by any parent because they are stangers, they could be up to anything and you sure as heck wouldnt know would you? and as for him trying to say back off to you, that would have had me madder than an alley cat in a box.
I think you did the right thing yelling at these guys to get away from your son. Do you know what church they came from? perhaps you could report them to their church for what they were doing? if they were a halfway decent church, they will step on those emmbers necks and rein them in. Or, if you prefer, you could report them to the authorities i suppose but I don't know what you would be able to report them for.
I really hope that you don't get any more problems from these guys again.
Emma
xx
@sephrenia (567)
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6 Sep 07
I bet you were, I would be as well, what on earth do you say when confronted with a scene like that? it's like something in your worst nightmares when you see your kid being approached and you don't know why.
I just about burst into tears when I read that your son apologised to you thinking he had done something wrong. Thats so sweet and so very adorable. Give your son an extra hard hug from me, he deserves it for being so cute.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
6 Sep 07
he didnt object when I bined the lolly pop. Why do they even have them with them for gods sake this is not right.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
6 Sep 07
as if I am going yo listen to what a 4 year old wants. But i was more dirturbed by the fact that it looked so wrong in so many different levels. Isnt this what pedofiles do? Lure the kids with a lolly. Should I be scared to let my son out of my sight in my own house? What if someone comes and he thinks it ok to go with that person. My son has no concept of days so he might have said to him self lets see where this party is and walked off. It took as 1 year and 5months (since we got the house) to teach him stranger danger, he knows that when someone comes you come and tell mummy or daddy. now we are back to the start.
@uath13 (8192)
• United States
6 Sep 07
Thats terrible. I'm almost at a loss for words on what I think of this type of person. Most that come to mind would get me banned on here.
I guess they feel they have to start their brainwashing early if they want new recruits. Its sad that thats about the nicest thing I could say.
So sorry this happened to you and your son.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
6 Sep 07
Thanks for your comment. I know what words you are thinking off. I found the paper they gave my son and there is a number on it for the bbq they are having. I am going to give them a call or might even drop by to make a scene
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
6 Sep 07
thats a good one or I might even make my own
they shal not come to my door
talk to my son
live their reading material (that ends up in the bin)
@dinxcarin (595)
• Singapore
7 Sep 07
i'm no religious myself but I am just wonderin why some religious group are doing that. In my ministry, we are taught that God is a gentle God and a gentleman. If you don't want Him, then He will let you go. He wont force you..because He has given us Free will...free to decide..free to think..But if you want or need Him...He is just around --all the time for us.
do you happen to know their religion?
@dinxcarin (595)
• Singapore
7 Sep 07
The way they interact with people is strange. You must be careful, I heard there some cults around too. Don't let your child wander alone or go out without you or any of the family around.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
7 Sep 07
Amin to that. No I dont know the religion because then never say. the dont say hi i am john I am from blah blah. They say Hi we were wondering if we can have a talk and of they go (no you dont have time to say no thanks or what ever). The lady I called told me she was not at liberty to say and I dont know if the police know jet.
@cynddvs (2948)
• United States
7 Sep 07
Oh I would have gone off. To try to lure your kid is just going to far. It's one thing to try to preach their beliefs to adults but to kids that's a big no no in my book. I would get a nice no soliciting sign and if you ever see them on your property again call the cops. I'm all about being nice and polite until kids get involved.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
7 Sep 07
The thing is I had one of those but no one paid any atention to it so I still had to tell people I wasnt interested. I was nice till now I even offer a cod drink in summer If I as siting outside but not any more.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
7 Sep 07
That is terrible! I would not have hesitated to call the police...not for a second! What religion is this? I know some pushy religions but have never ever encountered something like what you just described. Something doesn't ring right with this...I don't know of any religion at all that bribes kids with sweets and does not get parents approval before talking to the kids. Thankfully you intervened but what about their next victim? I'd report it if just to have your concerns on record.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
7 Sep 07
this is not that uncommon (not the candy thing but talking to kids) last year my nephews were playing out side with a bunch of kids aged between say 7 to 16 and 2 man started talking to them (mainly talking to the older kids) asking them about jisus and what they think of this and that, than they told them what great camping and othere events they have and most are for free. Gave all the kids stickers and told them to call or drop by if they need anything. Than one of the mothers (she is one crazy b^%#$) went there and when she found out what was going on she told them in not so nice words where to stick those stickers and many more things.
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@trutallica (164)
• United States
7 Sep 07
I don't have children right now but I sure as hell would of been fired up if it would of have been one of my nieces or nephews.
That is absolutely distasteful in my eyes to throw their crap onto a child like that! That is absolutely pathetic and low, they should really revamp their ways of drawing in new believers.
Hopefully, the punks won't be back.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
7 Sep 07
Actually I pray that they come again only this time I will know what to say and I will be ready for them.
@troopy (168)
• Australia
7 Sep 07
Be careful !!
These sort of people obviously have no boundaries in how they go about getting people to accept there so called religion, perhaps next time you may want to get there names and the name of the church, religion they represent and then tell them you are taking this information to the police and file a restraining order against them. I know it sounds harsh.. but if 2 strangers were talking to my child on there own and giving him or her lollies, I would have no hesitations calling the police and having them charged immediattley. i also think it would be a good idea to let your neighbours know as well. Especially if any of them have children as well.. So you can all help each other out and watch each others children against these so called churchies..
Good Luck
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
7 Sep 07
Those people are just as fanatic as those terrorists killing themselve in the name of Allah.
When they say "We are just doing our job". They mean the job that Jesus gave them. Which is preaching the words of God. There are several people doing this on myLot. They use myLot as a billboard to quote the bible.
You should have the right to prosecute them for trespassing. Either put a lock on the gate or buy a doberman to keep them out. But don't be nice to them again.
You are lucky that we live in the 21st century. A thousand years ago... they would have burned you like Joan of Arc for refusing to convert.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
7 Sep 07
Doing the job my a%% if I need bread I go to the bakery, if I need cd I go to the music store if I need a book I go to the book shop If I need god I know where the church is I am a adult I can maka a choice which things work for me. There should be ban on that it is offencive to me to talk to them as it makes me feel as if I am abending my church just by listening.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
6 Sep 07
You cant stop them coming but I do hope they dont knock on my door any time soon.
@emilywickersham (56)
• United States
7 Sep 07
These people count on the fact that most people hate to be rude. Its the same way with telmarketers. Go ahead BE RUDE. Its the only thing these obnoxious jerks understand.