My dad is a pushy christain and I cant stand to be around him is that wrong?
@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
United States
September 17, 2007 6:41pm CST
I ran away when I was 15 and been gone since then. My dad is a real big Bible thumper and is always making sure he lets us know it. It has pushed my sister and I away from him, and the bad thing is it seems like hes ok with not being around. I love my dad and wish he would accept me for who i am even if i was a devil worshiper (which im not). Where not the only ones though he doesnt really associate with his family b/c they arent church goers either. Which my dads family is real messed up anyways they like to talk behind backs so i dont talk to them either. But it has been 6 years since i have had a relationship with my dad if you want to call what we had before a relationship. let me let you understand my dad a little more. I wanted to go to the homecomeing dance and he said no and I went anyways. He called the cops on me and had me excorted out. One time my sister, step-sister, and I went and stayed the night and these peoples house that went to our church and the guy melested me and my sisters more me b/c i was older and didnt want him messing with them, and my dad didnt believe me at first then when he reliezed that we werent lying he said OH god forgives him. My dad also would not let me where shorts, a bathing suit, speggiti strap shirts and if i did he would call me a prositute. He would not let us stay the night with people that did not go to our church and we had a very small church with like 3 ppl my age and i didnt like any of them. We could only listen to Gospel music. So is it wrong of me not to have a relationship with my dad?
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@budsr03 (2350)
• Canada
18 Sep 07
I left a christian church because the preacher was mostly teaching condemnation. Like making up laws and rules on how a christian should live! I think he forgot that we (sorry for the word we) are saved by grace and not by works! Well i didn't feel the love in that church or the presence of a holy spirit so i left, i don't regret it! Christianity is about love and planting the seed about the good lord. With these a true christian can learn to live right and to grow spiritualy! It's possible you have a closer relationship with God than your dad does! I hope your father can see the love and reconcile with the ones that love him and don't condemn him! Take care Libertarianfreedom.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
That is the main reason I am not a christain I totally agree with you I dont think God will make me burn in hell if I dance, wear shorts, speggeti strap shirts, bathing suits, etc. Our body is natural and he/she created it. I believe that some wiccans and pagans have a better understanding of God then most Christains. They wonder why their reliogion is falling instead of growing and it is b/c of the people out there like that or when you flip through the channels and you get a christain one with the preacher saying God is telling me to tell you to donate 1000 dollars today and you shall be BLESSED then he has like 100 people sending him that money a day. That preacher is rich and that is probally all he cares about. Or when you hear about these preachers melesting kids, i heard the other day of one chopping up a person in little pieces. Did God tell him to? There has only been one church that I have walked in and could fell the presence it still isnt for me but I do like that church a lot the preachers real good.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
20 Sep 07
i dont let it hinder my veiw on other christains i have met plenty of wonderful people that were christain (you seem to be one as well) and i know that God doesnt judge by looks or the occasinal mistake but by the heart.
@houndsgood (774)
• United States
19 Sep 07
I agree with Pose123.
That is NOT christianity.
This is what Christianity is about:
You are a Christian if you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior. By dying on the cross, Jesus took on our sins, and in exchange for taking our sins on his shoulders, we receive in return unearned grace. What is unearned grace? It means just that. We can't do enough good deeds to earn it. We don't get it for wearing the longest skirts, etc. We CAN'T earn it. It is a gift to us. When you get to a point in your life when you realize that you have God's smile (grace), so to speak, your life begins to change.
It is the difference between a child who tries to win races, or acts out just in the hopes that they can get their parent to love or notice them versus a child that feels so loved, and are so secure that their parents are absolutely crazy about them, and there is no question, that they do things for others or achieve.
Any traditions such as eating things on certain days or wearing certain things are signs of "membership" in a particular denomination and have nothing to do with going to heaven or not. They are "traditions" so to speak.
There are people that have issues and complexes and they are going to fixate on whatever is available, and don't let your bad experience with your father taint your opinion of all christianity. I think that also fathers love their kids sometimes so much and no one gives out a parenting manual teaching people how to stand back, when to use tough love, and when to just let them fail and pick themselves up. Its easy to tell your kids "respect yourself, don't dress like a trollop, stay in school, and don't stay up after midnight" because they want so much for you, but its HARD to sit back and listen and even let kids make decisions that you wouldn't choose so they can learn for themselves even if they fail the first time and then come back to you for advice.
I am glad that you love your dad. Sometimes people who love eachother can't live together, but i am glad you hhaven't shut him off forever.
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@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
18 Sep 07
I don't think it's wrong for you to avoid a relationship with your dad. It seems like his views on God are pushing many people away from him, and it must be difficult for you to try to deal with him.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
Thank you for your responce and yes he has pushed many of people away from him, his only family now is my step mom and step sister. it is his own fault I have tried many of times to repair our relationship but been unsussecful.
@elshaddai123 (3981)
• Kottayam, India
2 Oct 07
Nobody is perfect before God, so to finger anybody is wrong you are doing to his Master.He has to give answer
to Him only.We look to ourselves and admit our mistakes and live a holy life as much as you can.
@Sharon38 (1912)
• Jamaica
18 Sep 07
I am really sorry to hear all these happennings and I apologise on his behalf. Some christians I dont know what to say about them but more and more I realise that people are taking the Bible out of context to please themselves. The Gospel is all about the love of Jesus christ and the what you have shown does not show me Jesus' love. I believe in the principles of the Bible and I make mistakes. Look at me I grew up in the church. Got raped at 21, pregnant at 28 and inpsite of all these happenings sitll holding on to God. dont let his picture of Jesus trun you away. But I believe that you should try to build a proper relationship with him. Now that you understand him (your father) be a little more patient with him and pray for him too. God bless!
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@Sharon38 (1912)
• Jamaica
18 Sep 07
Hi yougot me wrong I did not mean to turn you away from Jesus becos that was never the issue you spoke about. I meant to discourage you from trying to build a realationship with your father. I dont have a good one with mine becos he disowned me and then when I should have gone to high school there was no support but now he seeks financial assistance. I too could do with the help. You had the opportunity to live with yours I did not so I am just encouraging you to look past his fanatic beliefs and see the real man - your father and try to rebuild a relationship.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
oh sorry, I have tried ive called wrote him given him numbers told him that i dont want this to be are relationship and we need to make it better but so far that hasnt had any results just yet. I dotn wnat him to past away knowing i didnt have a relationship with him.
@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
I appriciate your responce and I didnt let that turn me away from Jesus. I just dont agree. I will try to start a relationship with him I have wrote him an email showing my felling and my numbers and address and now it is up to him to do the rest. God bless you and have a great day.
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@alansmile (284)
• Malaysia
18 Sep 07
Wow... Some dad there. You should forgive him,after all he is your dad. We Christian forgive those who sin against us(which is in the written in the bible).By the way,why he think of you as a "devil worshiper"?
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@alansmile (284)
• Malaysia
19 Sep 07
I won't look down at you. There is nothing wrong of being a pagan. Just hope that someday your dad will love you as much as he love god himself.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
He didnt I just wanted to say that b/c i would want him to love me no matter what. I also am a pagan and want to know that that wouldnt matter to him b4 he comes over. I know most the people that will respond to this will be christains and I want all yall to know I like that yall believe in something and keep strong in it. I hope none of yall will look down on me b/c I dont believe in God like yall do. But that is the whole reason for this disscussion to find out what people think about a family with diffrent religions
@smacksman (6053)
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18 Sep 07
People like your dad KNOW that they are right and nothing you say or do will change him.
I'm afraid this is one of the poisons of religion.
All you can do is understand how sick he is and forgive him for that. He is your dad after all and you love him for that.
People who are fanatics, and that is fanatics about anything, are a bit mentally unstable but in our society, religious fanatics are looked upon as acceptable and so treatment is not readily available for them.
It looks to me that you are going to have to make your own life without him which is sad but necessary. Just try and maintain contact through your mother and other relations.
@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
18 Sep 07
I guess you should forgive, because you're the one's who know what's best for yourself. The issue is not about religion, it is about being a better person.
As for me, I haven't stepped up on any church anymore. Simply because I don't see any of them following what the Bible has taught them, and that I don't like people choking me up with their religious nonsense.
I prefer to lead by my own, better to follow the Bible instead of those words that comes out from other men's mouth.
@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
I agree with you too all yall made good points. Follow your Heart not what other people tell you to follow that is what I have always practiced. I study the bible, history and lots of things and take what is in my heart and grasp a hold of that and i know God will love me for that even if i dont follow christian beliefs. I will always welcome my dad with open arms but for now on when he starts to push his religion on me I'm going to fight fire with fire and Push mine back on him I dont know if you would agree with that but i need to try something else after all just being quit about it hasnt helped.
@sunnywaters (189)
• United States
18 Sep 07
Your father does not practice what he preaches nor does he live a christian life. It is one thing to profess being a certain religious type and affiliation, but it is another thing to actually do what they say. I am glad you ran away from home - nothing irritates me more than parents who say one thing and do another and force their children to do it the "christian way". I have christian friends who are fantastic and they love and share with their friends and neighbors who really live their faith.
sunnywaters
@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
I agree with you most of all. that is the problem with some christains they take the christain values and use them for control instead of love and joy and all that good stuff. I have meet pleanty of really cool christain people that you can tell what they believe in runs through them. Those are the ones that will keep chritainaty alive. thank you for your responce
@lancingboy (1385)
• United States
18 Sep 07
I know what you mean by your topic. I have relatives who push it on me everytime I see them. I stay away from them too. If they wouldn't push their beliefs on me, I would spend time with them. They are the reason I was pressured into being baptized even though it didn't feel right to me. You dad is being very small-minded to the world around him and it isn't fair to you or him, because it is ruining your relationship. I think he went to far with calling the cops to escort you out. This topic is really difficult to advise on....
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
18 Sep 07
I know it is a touchy subject for most. I totally agree with you too. He has made his life less enjoyable to live and you can tell by his actions. We have talked maybe 5 or 6 times in the past 6 years and I have called him all but 2 of those times. I tell him we need to have a dinner together or something I also told him my fellings the last time I talked to him and he said it was b/c he loves me and i understand that but I was just letting him know that it pushes me away instead. I dont want him to come over till i know he will accept me b/c once he does he might see some celtic stuff around that he wont like and I dont want that to cause prob. I also have a pentegram and some knick knacks. So I dont want him to come over till I know that he will accept all of me.