What are your thoughts on the Jena 6 story?

@ma_belle (1357)
United States
September 20, 2007 10:30pm CST
I know this can be a bit of a sensitive subject...but what are your thoughts. What kind of punishment do these boys deserve? Do you think the beating incident was actually linked to the noose hanging incident that happened at that high school recently? Or is it that they just come from a really racist community where situations like that happen often? What are you thoughts?
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10 responses
21 Sep 07
Sorry to be ignorant but what is this about, I am in UK
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
22 Sep 07
Well, if you want the factual version of it: Last year a group of 6 young black men ganged up on a 17 year old white boy named Justin Barker. No weapons were used, and the damages that were done cost roughly $5,000 and 2.5 hours in a hospital. Currently, the trials for the perpetrators have began. Originally, 5 of the six boys were charged with attempted murder. An outcry resulted among many people, claiming that 'attempted murder' charges were too harsh. Later the charges were reduced to 'aggravated battery'. In America, aggravated battery is hitting a person with a deadly weapon, hitting a person who is considered protected (like a child or pregnant woman), or battery in a protected place. This is considered a felony, and can result in several years in prison or excessive fines. The current outcry is that this charge is also too harsh, as none of the boys had a weapon, and some are facing 22 years in prison for what some people believe is nothing more than your average school fight/gang up. There is also an outcry that the entire situation is driven by racism, and that all charges should be dropped. There are also some who think the Jena 6 deserve to be charged with attempted murder. If you can access Wikipedia in the U.K., go there and type in 'Jena 6' and it should bring up a page concerning the incident and all the incidents leading up to it.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
23 Sep 07
Appeals to emotion won't work here. Regardless of whether anyone thinks it was a fair fight, the point is, not enough damage was done to warrant anymore than a simple battery charge.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
23 Sep 07
Does any evidence exist that they intended to kill short of "they beat him when he was down."
@disvachic (10117)
• United States
21 Sep 07
THis systems is really unjustice.They are treated unfairly.The white students did things uncalled for and was suspended.Really racism still exist and its not right.Hopefully justice will be served.
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@disvachic (10117)
• United States
21 Sep 07
Even if it was white students that is to harsh 20 years for a school fight and the victim was not hooked up to any breathing machines,broken limbs,no surgery.How is that attempted murder????
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@disvachic (10117)
• United States
21 Sep 07
African Americans have been through so much going way back in slavery time.They have spoken out on this issue because it is definitely a racial issue and it needs to end.There are mostly whites in that part of town and the blacks are just not treated fairly.If the black students got jumped by the white students their charge would not been attempted murder.20 years is just ridiculous.Look at what happened before they got off easy with their crime.If thease were white students why wouldnt I be vocal?? Fair is fair im not racist.
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@disvachic (10117)
• United States
21 Sep 07
Like i said were nooses hung up by the tree after he sat there?NO did the whites get any time for their crimes?NO So why does he need a RALLY?For getting beat up because of the racism they have going on there. Please!!!There part of town has nearly 3,000 whites and around 300 blacks so its so obvious...
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• United States
22 Sep 07
it is really hard to say the boy that was teasing them shouldn't have been doing it but i don't think it was right for 6 boys to jump on one person and i don't think they are treating the guys in jail fair but that is just my views
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
21 Sep 07
Yes, this is a sensitive subject, and I have seen folks wearing all black today. But to get to the subject, yes, the beating incident is coincidental to the noose hanging incident, but the punishment to each crime is vastly different.Do I feel the place where this has happened is racist, not really. I just think it's a place where a racial incident occurred. When I first moved to Mobile, there was a young black man killed, basically lynched a few years after I came and it could have escalated into a bad scene, but it didn't.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
21 Sep 07
The only thing I care about is that the boys aren't being tried fairly, nor are they being charged fairly. They are being convicted of aggravated battery, which is an assault with a weapon, or on a protected person (pregnant women, children, etc.), or in a protected place. None of these boy's had a weapon, and the only reason why this charge is actually sliding is because the jury actually agreed that a shoe can be considered a dangerous weapon. What's more, at least one member of the jury happens to be a high school friend of the victim's father - anyone who has a basic knowledge of how the jury system works should see the problem with this. Obvious partiality, and yet people still claim their being tried fairly. I believe the boys should be charged with simple battery. What they did was wrong, but in no way should the be punished as severely as they are. Have you seen the victim? His wounds weren't terribly great. None were permanent, and none were life threatening. Yet another aspect of an aggravated battery crime unmet - serious injury where the injuries leave a permanent mark or injury. I don't think the beating was directly linked to the noose incident, rather, they're directly linked to mounting tension cause by racism within the school and community. If you actually look up the incident that occurred before the beating, you can see that something was terribly wrong with that community when it came to racism.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
22 Sep 07
In which case, anyone who hits another person with their fist could be penalized with 2nd degree battery - a felony, rather than simple battery - a misdemeanor. This usually doesn't happen, as deadly weapons are usually considered objects created for purposes of extensive damage. In this case, hands can't, and are not, considered deadly weapons.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
23 Sep 07
Meh, that doesn't change the fact that they're reaching for something that could put these boys behind bars longer than necessary. I still don't see how they justify trying to throw an aggravated battery charge at kids who didn't have a deadly weapon to begin with, while at the same time not punishing a boy who drew a shotgun on 3 unarmed young men - in public, no less.
@raychill (6525)
• United States
21 Sep 07
Well... what are your thoughts? I personally don't think it's appropriate to ask a personal question without giving your own thoughts first... because maybe, if someone doesn't agree with you, they'd rather just not reply so as to avoid an argument or such. Whereas when you don't put your own opinion first, people unknowingly could be saying harsh things you don't agree with. I personally wouldn't want that. not to mention it's good to have discussions with a lot of content and putting your own opinion in would give it more content so it's more than 2 or 3 sentences. My opinion, even though you didn't give yours, is that I just think it's sad that it's 2007 (or 2006 when this happened) and we are still having racial problems of blacks against whites. It's sad that some people still believe we are not equals and teach their kids the same thing. I grew up never really knowing there was a difference between blacks or whites...except that we looked different, but doesn't everyone?
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@ma_belle (1357)
• United States
21 Sep 07
I purposely didn't give my opinion because I wanted a fair debate amongst my fellow my-lotters. I feel that many discussion that are meant to spark a debate that include the OP's opinion often just lead to 'yea' or 'ney' 'i agree' with you posts. I just wanted to see what others think first. I also wanted to see how opinions may be affect by where the respondents were from, location wise. Its not my intention to get people to agree with my opinions on the subject...instead my intention is to spark a thoughtful and mature debate on a serious subject that is happening in our country right now. By putting my opinion up, I feel that some may have not spoken in fear of disagreeing with the OP. I hope you understand my intentions.
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@raychill (6525)
• United States
21 Sep 07
I understand your intentions. But I guess that I know, if it wasn't for the fact that you're on my friends list, I wouldn't have responded because I think a discussion should involve the person who posted the discussion. I don't, personally, see a point in starting a discussion topic that you aren't going to involve yourself in. But you're on my friends list and I answer most discussions that my friends posts. I just think discussions are a two way street. One way, the topic starter, the other...everyone commenting. I don't think the point of mylot was to be a onesided street. That's all. I completely understand your intentions, i was just voicing my opinion.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
22 Sep 07
After fully reading the story. I will say that the 6 boys didn't beat up the other guy in a racist thing. No telling what the guy did or said to the 6 boys. Now for the noose hanging, those kids should have there butts beat off by there parents for that b.s. Crap like that should not be tolerated, being punished for only 3 days is b.s. as well. Those 6 boys should not be on trial for attempted murder, they should be punished for simply being in a fight and that's all. Reading that the 17 year old could get up to 22 years in prison for a fight, oh my dear Lord above. This does make me wonder if the roles was reversed, what the outcome would have been. Yes, I'm white, Yes, I live in the south. No, I don't think these 6 boys should be going to court, fighting for there lives. Yes, whoever hung the noose at the high school, should be sent to jail for commiting a hate crime. Before going, there parents should took that noose and beat there butts with it. I know my parents would have. Yes, I do agree because of the location, this crap still goes on today. Jena only has about 4,000 people that's a lot compared to my hometown. There we had our share of racist people. I think when people act this way, they are just ignorant a**holes.
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@applsofgld (2506)
• United States
21 Sep 07
I only recently heard of this situation on the evening news. I think the fight was the result of the noose hangings in the trees, if that is true, then I think those who placed them in the tree need to be punished not let go with a slap on the hand. There was also a victim here who was beaten, so a crime was committed. I think the ones who were involved with the noose hanging should also be prosecuted. I would be upset too if I was involved and they were not punished.
@carolscash (9492)
• United States
22 Sep 07
I haven't heard about this story but I would think that there are still many racist people in the world and I could see how many attacks could happen between the people in a community where racism exists.
• Hampton, Virginia
24 Oct 07
i do not belive that this whole issue regarding the jena six is an issue about race i belive that those boys should not have gotten a punsihment that extreme the children that hung the nooses should have infact been expelled as well and the children of hena six should have to face a juvenille court , lets face it crime is crime dispite what your skin color is and who you are