When did marriage exist?
By cristalkate
@cristalkate (536)
Portugal
September 21, 2007 4:35am CST
As far as I know the beggining of the world, the making of man and woman, that is Adan and Eve, and after they had been already fixed as humans I didn't remember that they had been given by God the words of vows that they already married, do they? Or they had not given written papers for them to prove that they were married couples.(well, let us just consider that they don't have papers that time)
In times of Joseph and Mary, I didn't remember such thing that they get married and or having papers for them to prove that they were married.
I am just puzzled. Who really initiates marriage like having papers to sign on? When did marriage exist?
Now, guys, I would love to hear your thoughts about this. I will appreciate those nuggets of wisdom you have had. :)
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
21 Sep 07
24. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
25. The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
22 Sep 07
i think you have your answer at first no there were no papers needed for marriage but for legal reasons in our modern world we do need them there are things like inherancy laws ,insurance laws and even hospital visisttion needs that may require proof of a marriage and wont accept someones word that they are toggether this is what is a probllem with gay partners and believe me i cxan understand why they should have legalised union in someway for these reasons
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@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Hi there revdauphinee. :) Thanks for stopping by on my discussion. Hope you can sit back here and lets talk more over a hot cup of coffee. :D
Well, I seen there what you posted which the 24th and 25th, yet I just know a lil idea where I can suit my discussion. Hope you can elaborate more. I would be happy for that rev.
Please don't go away that fast and just leave me all these 2 verses.(smile) Well, I can say that you got it from the bible. But REV, I wanna talk to you more deeply than those verses. heheh Hope you won't get annoyed with me. (wink wink) :D
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
22 Sep 07
I think the whole concept of a "marriage" per se has been around since time began practically, but of course there were no "papers" to authenticate a marriage like we do today...a marriage record or license is a relatively new thing...but there have always been some kind of "ceremony" to show a couple as being married. Who knows? Maybe our caveman/woman ancestors had some kind of ceremony as well...LOL
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@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Hi pyewacket. Thanks for dropping. I love to see you here. :)
Yeah that is what I am thinking too that maybe they have their ceremony on it. HMMmmm. I am wondering how did they do it. Maybe you have an ancestors left there with you pyewacket so we can chitchat with her or him how their rituals go. hehehe just kidding =P
@ChampagneGiggles (699)
• United States
21 Sep 07
You don't have to be legally married (meaning with the license) to be truly married. Any couple living as one, building lives together, and recognized as a long-term, monogamous item is married. Papers or none. So in those terms, Adam and Eve were the first married couple because God united them to the knowledge of all. Government sanctioned marriage is just (in my opinion) a way to keep tabs on people and their money.
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@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Hi there champagnegiggles! :) It is nice to meet you here.
Yeah, that's what I am thinking too, that government had made marriage with papers, though they have had their reasons on it too.
In my opinion too, I don't see marriage that much that they do need papers; as long as you're secure on your life then go for it. I highly respect it. As long as you did'nt stomp on anybody's life, it is not a big deal, right friend champagne? Cheers!
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@CEN7777 (855)
• India
22 Sep 07
hi cristalkate, I think marriage can only exist if bith partners are commited to each other, cares and respect eachother. For sucessful marriage it is necessary to understand your partner very precisely and respect him with love.U should have good belief on him and should hurt by your act.
for sucess full married life paaer certificate does not matter its only you and your partner can make it sucessful with ur love and comittment. Its all moral bonding , No compulsion is needed.
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@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Hi cen. Thanks for dropping by your thoughts and insights about this discussion. I had seen just awhile ago that I got a friend's request. I am happy that it is you on the box. (wink wink)hehe Thanks for adding me buddy.
I got your point buddy. Yes, it is that both couple is more responsible on the love and committment. Papers are just papers yet it can not make us successful though it could be of help too. But the true essence of marriage lies for both who took the vows, right buddy?(smile, wink wink) hehehe
@huntbird (277)
• China
23 Sep 07
Actually,When i was in the senion high school,our class' main emphasis is history,any my history grade is always NO.1 in class.And my teacher had high regard for me.that is what perfect times.Any man with many wifes,in the history ,many countrys existed this situation.To be honest,if i have,i think i can't express my glad.
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@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
23 Sep 07
Hahahaha..! Wow! A man who loves to have more wives! Ladies and gentlemen...Huntbird! hehhehehe just kidding buddy.
Wow! Being a NO.1 is a big time! Congratulation buddy. Wish I had been with you those times so I can have a share of your answers in history subject. hahaha Joke.
Well, that was really an advantage of you of being good in history. You knew more things on it. :D
@izathewzia (5134)
• Philippines
22 Sep 07
I don't know when the marriage started. It is already existing when I was born. But what important most to me is it's essence. especially the church wedding. I am a catholic and i believe in the sacrament of marriage. Although I am civilly married for now, I am still planning to get a church wedding as time permits.
@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Izathewzia, hello dear. Let me give a warm handshake and a big hug UUHHHmmm hehe for I am a catholic too. hehe
Me too, I woke up one morning and I just knew that there is marriage. hehe just kidding. I wanna know and learn all about this while I am still on my adult stage because I don't want to be asked by my grandchildren someday which I cannot answer though. hehe
Yeah the essence is there, yet in my own opinion, I can not appreciate its essence that much if I can not have those answers.
Oooops, I heard it Iza, am I invited? (smile) Well, don't worry Iza time will come and you will be there at the church before you'll know it.(smile) May God bless you dear.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
22 Sep 07
The Mesopotamians came up with some of the concepts of marriage, but many scientist believe that marriage pre-dates even the Mesopotamian Era, back to Neanderthals. It is said that Neanderthals may have praticed marriage, but of course, not in the way that we pratice it now.
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@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Whhheew. I got dizzy. LOl Hmmm... I think you love your history subject too rouge13. Waaah(cries) when I was on my college days before, I felt sleepy when it's time of my history subject.:( hehe
Yeah rouge maybe signing in papers were practiced in our later years.:) Those era you had stated there were already practicing marriages yet in a different ways and not particular on license or whatever paper certifications.Yet they had marriages too. Well, not bad at all. hehehe
@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
21 Sep 07
I think what initaites true marriage is you and your partner. My partner and I arnt married (we will have a wedding one day) by papers but we consider ourselves already married. You dont need a peice of paper telling you what you are do you? I dont think so. this is my thought i was trying to think of more to say but i think i said it thanks for the question.
@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Aloha libertarianfreedom21 :) Wheew quite a long name hehe. Nice one.
Nah. It is not dear. I don't think papers can affect my thoughts convincing me to call a couple an unmarried one if they haven't initiated it on papers yet. I respect those couples who have'nt signed on papers, yet being together for a quite long time with happy and prosperous family. I gave two thumbs up for them(smile) for keeping their family intact, happy and healthy one.
In fact, I am sometimes calling my hubby as my bf or addressing him as my bf. See? So I don't care if the couple haven't signed on papers or not, yet living together for a quite long time; I still bow to call them married couples. (smile)
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@huntbird (277)
• China
22 Sep 07
The history is my best love,as i know,thosands of year ago,the envirentment is very terribele,and people live all together,there are no concept of marriage.men heve many wifs,and so are women.but how are the one man with one wife happen,i don't know.
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@cristalkate (536)
• Portugal
22 Sep 07
Huntbird, welcome to mylot and let's just enjoy talking here over our favorite snacks or juice or coffee. heheh
Ohh...so you love history? Aaawww! Good for you buddy. Hmmmm, so you know that thousands of year ago men have had many wives. AAaarrgghh! And you like it too? I mean having many wives? Ouch!hehe joke
Well, you need to find it there the reasons why men got one wife by now. Hmmm..let me tell you about it buddy? I guess because man cannot lie down on his bed, coz of too many women on it. hehe just kidding buddy. :)=P
