President George W. Bush is a WARMONGER!

United States
October 21, 2007 8:55am CST
"Bush Warns of WWIII Over Iran" That's the headline at this linked article. http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bush_WWIII/2007/10/18/41947.html?s=sp&promo_code=3BB3-1 I urge you to read the above. You will see that President Bush is laying a ground work of lies upon which to justify an invasion or attack on Iran. Just like he did in Iraq! Do you believe President Bush is a lying WARMONGER or a courageous person willing to risk world condemnation as he stops a country that would destroy the world because of religious mythology?
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
21 Oct 07
I don't view this as Bush laying the groundwork for any invasion of Iran. What I see is Bush talking about legitimate concerns and a possible future if certain things transpire. If there is an attack on Iran, I would be amazed if it occurs before Bush s out of office, so how could he be laying groundwork for a planned invasion. WWIII has been generally believed going to happen as a result of events in the Mideast for a very long time, and so it is no great stretch to believe that Iran could be the catalyst for such an event. I don't view Bush as a warmonger, nor to I believe that he lied prior to going to Iraq.
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• United States
21 Oct 07
Nah, I don't really think Bush is a warmonger either. Just trying to lure people who are into the discusssion! I don't think he lied to get us into Iraq, either. We definitely needed to do that job. Does anyone really think Bush wanted to go into Iraq? It was a dirty job someone had to do.
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• United States
21 Oct 07
bush will be gone soon keep your panties out of a bunch!
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• United States
21 Oct 07
Sounds like good advice. I am willing to bet the next President (even Hillary) will not change USA policy in the Middle East even an itsy bitsy teeny bit.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
28 Oct 07
Hello redyellowblackdog! “Do you believe President Bush is a lying WARMONGER or a courageous person willing to risk world condemnation as he stops a country that would destroy the world because of religious mythology?” Yes, I think that President Bush is a lying Warmonger; And, Yes, He is lying about Iran as he did about Iraq! And if your finger is pointing towards Iran, about “a country that would destroy the world because of religious mythology”, then perhaps you don’t know about their mythology at all. I have added a part of their mythology in one of your other discussions which was about Ahmadinejad. I do however know that President Reagan, in speeches and interviews, talked about HIS mythology and belief and hinted to fighting with USSR as Armageddon. In series of speeches in early 80s, he did his best to create paranoia. It seemed as if Nuclear war (as Armageddon) was imminent! You would be knowing it quite well but if you like I would paste the links from different news papers for Reagan and his teams’ statements. I am truly amazed when someone says that President Bush didn’t lie or misled about Iraq. I am surprised by peoples’ short memories about President’s and his teams’ speeches, about his stressing that he KNOWS that Iraq has, and is developing WMDs. Let’s see only few of his lies just so the memories could be awaken. In an address in Cincinnati on October 7, 2002: (From White House internet site) 1. The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html And also, In the state of the Union address on January 28, 2003; He said: 2. "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." (this very same lie was repeated by other members of administration like Powel, Rumsfeld, Dickk Cheney etc) It was said on the basis of a document of Iraq’s pursuance of Uranium Oxide from Niger and Aluminum Tubes despite the fact that the CIA never confirmed neither the reports nor the document and later concluded it to be forged. IAEA also concluded that there is no evidence of such allegation and that the documents were forgeries (March 7, 2003). “Based on thorough analysis, the IAEA has concluded, with the concurrence of outside experts, that these documents - which formed the basis for the reports of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger - are in fact not authentic. We have therefore concluded that these specific allegations are unfounded.” http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Statements/2003/ebsp2003n006.shtml same report concludes in following 4 points including other false allegations about resumed nuclear activity and Aluminum Tubes: • There is no indication of resumed nuclear activities in those buildings that were identified through the use of satellite imagery as being reconstructed or newly erected since 1998, nor any indication of nuclear-related prohibited activities at any inspected sites. • There is no indication that Iraq has attempted to import uranium since 1990. • There is no indication that Iraq has attempted to import aluminium tubes for use in centrifuge enrichment. Moreover, even had Iraq pursued such a plan, it would have encountered practical difficulties in manufacturing centrifuges out of the aluminium tubes in question. • Although we are still reviewing issues related to magnets and magnet production, there is no indication to date that Iraq imported magnets for use in a centrifuge enrichment programme. From CNN’s March 14, 2003 transcript: “ENSOR (voice-over): For the Bush administration and for U.S. intelligence, the matter of the apparently forged documents on Iraq pursuing African uranium is turning into a world class embarrassment. RAY CLOSE, FORMER CIA OFFICER: I'm sure that the FBI and the CIA must be mortified by this, because it's extremely embarrassing to them.” http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0303/14/ltm.14.html The LA Times reported this on December 11, 2005 edition: “PARIS — More than a year before President Bush declared in his 2003 State of the Union speech that Iraq had tried to buy nuclear weapons material in Africa, the French spy service began repeatedly warning the CIA in secret communications that there was no evidence to support the allegation.” http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-niger11dec11,0,3831325,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines Under the title, “FBI Probes Fake Evidence of Iraqi Nuclear Plans”, Washingtonpost had this to say: “ElBaradei's disclosure, and his rejection of three other key claims that U.S. intelligence officials have cited to support allegations about Iraq's nuclear ambitions, struck a powerful blow to the Bush administration's argument on the matter.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A17888-2003Mar12?language=printer Even President’s administration knew it before President’s address and yet President repeated the same lie as did his cronies. Consider Rep Henry Waxman’s letter to president in which he details the chronology and reports and asks the President to explain the discrepancies and why he is using a ‘declared’ forged document as proof and evidence of his allegation, here: http://www.house.gov/waxman/text/admin_iraq_march_17_let.htm More than a month ago before Invasion, on February 8, 2003; following appeared in The New York Times: “Another embarrassment for US and UK: “THREATS AND RESPONSES: INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT; Britain Admits That Much of Its Report on Iraq Came From Magazines” http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D01EFDC123BF93BA35751C0A9659C8B63 In the same speech in Cincinnati, October 07, 2002; President Bush said: 3. “ We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases.” Hussein's Prewar Ties To Al-Qaeda Discounted: “Hussein's regime was not directly cooperating with al-Qaeda before the U.S. invasion of Iraq…” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/05/AR2007040502263.html Saddam had no links to al-Qaeda: “THERE is no evidence of formal links between former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda leaders before the invasion of Iraq by the US in 2003, a long-awaited declassified US Senate report has revealed.” http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/saddam-had-no-links-to-alqaeda/2006/09/09/1157222383981.html “ABC's Chris Cuomo played for Snow a clip from "60 Minutes" in which Tenet says that the Bush administration "could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaida for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period." http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/04/30/snow/index.html Here is full report, including all allegations, on the u.s. intelligence community's prewar intelligence assessments on Iraq: http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/congress/2004_rpt/iraq-wmd-intell_toc.htm Even Bush administration backed off from their claims: MR. RUSSERT: Reconstituted nuclear weapons. You misspoke. VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yeah. I did misspeak. I said repeatedly during the show weapons capability. We never had any evidence that he had acquired a nuclear weapon. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080244/ “THE PRESIDENT: We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th…” http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/09/20030917-7.html 4. "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two…” http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html “He (Colin L. Powell) said last summer that the mobile labs were ''some of the most solid'' evidence the United States possessed, but in the past few months he has stepped back from those remarks, and then reversed himself. Two weeks ago he declared ''the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and in some cases, deliberately misleading.'' ''And for that, I am disappointed and I regret it,'' he added.” http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F03E2DF1431F931A35755C0A9629C8B63 Iraq on the Record: Rep. Henry A. Waxman http://oversight.house.gov/IraqOnTheRecord/ The report cited above contains 237 misleading statements by 5 Bush Administration top officials; President George W. Bush (55), Vice President Dickk Cheney (51),Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld (52), Secretary of State Colin Powell (50), National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice (29). There were many, many such misleading statements based on either sloppy intelligence, unconfirmed reports or even forged documents, yet, he and his administration presented them as facts and evidence to make a case of war against Iraq. Same has been and is being done against Iran. While CIA has continuously reported, even the last early fall report said so, that there is “no evidence” of any Iranian clandestine Nuclear weapons’ program, yet the Bush Administration is continuously parroting that Iran is building Nuclear weapons. IAEA reported following on August 21, 2007; under Article IV, ‘General Understandings’: (1, 4 ) 1. These modalities cover all remaining issues and the Agency confirmed that there are no other remaining issues and ambiguities regarding Iran's
• United States
29 Oct 07
If George W. Bush is a lying warmonger, I would remind you that Muhammad was a warrior and advocated deceit as a weapon. "Then, I believe, I will have support of Americans to oppose Chinese Administration!" Believe me, you have the support of all Americans who know anything about defense issues in regards to China. Chinese leaders do not even believe in any God of any kind. This kind of amoral person only believes in power and whatever they can do with it is fine by their beliefs. Chinese leaders would not hesitate to commit genocide or any other crime you care to imagine, if they thought they could get away with it. Those who do not believe in God are free to commit any evil they can get away with. Chinese leaders are much worse than you imagine George W.Bush to be.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
28 Oct 07
IAEA reported following on August 21, 2007; under Article IV, ‘General Understandings’: (1, 4 ) 1. These modalities cover all remaining issues and the Agency confirmed that there are no other remaining issues and ambiguities regarding Iran's past nuclear program and activities. 4. The Agency has been able to verify the non-diversion of the declared nuclear materials at the enrichment facilities in Iran and has therefore concluded that it remains in peaceful use. http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2007/gov2007-48.pdf Same pattern, same faces, same methodology and same lying and misleading machinery. It’s really hard for me to digest the fact that people will repeat the error and would believe in the tested and proven liars. I just hope that people can see…I also hope that if/when China emerges to be a world power, she doesn’t have a leader like G.W.Bush and administration like current American Administration, because it may treat America the same way, on the basis of same lying strategy, that current American Administration is using against Iran or have used against Iraq. Then, I believe, I will have support of Americans to oppose Chinese Administration!
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
29 Oct 07
"I would remind you that Muhammad was a warrior and advocated deceit as a weapon." I can accept that Muhammad was a warrior in the sense that though He never fought himself but He did lead battles as a commander. But, I do not accept Him advocating deceit as weapon, unless some evidence is presented to analyze! I believe that a person can be very moral even without explicit belief in GOD but I also think that a non-believer in GOD do not have a moral standard of any type to judge his/her actions against. So, yes, the "possibility" of an explicit non-believer in GOD to be utterly dangerous is more than a believing person. I would also submit that I have come across many atheists who are very moral and ethical, much more than what average Christians and Muslims are, even on the standards of Bible and Quran. But then, I also believe, though without any proof, that the concept of divine is present, somehow and somewhere at the core of heart of every living being. “Believe me, you have the support of all Americans who know anything about defense issues in regards to China.” Then I hope that we will be able to convince and stop them!:-)
• United States
22 Oct 07
Cheney has also come out and said that Iran will not be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. It doesn't look good, doe's it, regards avoiding a military conflict with Iran. Better to do it before they have nuclear capability, but it still could easily be a catastrophe. I do expect the next administration will do more to build international support and cooperation in dealing with Iran, and avoid acting without broad support, than I suspect Bush would have done. Of course, that might prove to be a mistake also.
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@dbmax41 (585)
• United States
6 Nov 07
I dont think we could have a better president concidering all that has happened over the past 20 years. Ok people call Bush names but NEVER offer up a solution to the world problems that the USA has had for SO MANY YEARS. Not just since Bush has been in office. An estimated 7 million muslims believe in killing as their lifes duty and have been doing it to us for decades. Not all Muslims believe this as some might think.
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• United States
6 Nov 07
President Bush has done a lot of good while in office, particularily as to the war on terror. Even still his perfromance is not perfect. Here's the most valid criticisms I've seen. 1) The rules of engagement are too restrictive. 2) Iran should have been invaded before Iraq. I wish the dumbocrats would take this path in their criticism of President Bush's policy. This would make the radical Muslims pay attention rather than take heart at the dumbocrats opposition to the President. Thanks, for your response in support of the President.
@latinvari (192)
• Turkey
24 Oct 07
hi yes he is warmonger and egoist he want to king of the world but i think he can t be a king if he going to act like stupid super power is will be ower
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• United States
24 Oct 07
Elaborate, if you like. Thanks, for your response.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
22 Oct 07
A courageous person??? I think you have to know what you're doing before you can be considered courageous! A warmonger? Darn tootin', in language even one with the cowboy mentality of Busj can understand. He hasn't given a rat's behind what the "world" thought of him since 9/11, if he did before then; we had the world on our side but that sure didn't last long, did it? Just 15 more months, just 15 more... Annie
• United States
22 Oct 07
He has the courage to stand by what he thinks is right in the face of the liberal party of defeat and while the majority of America does not share his belief. That is the mark of courage and leadership, and a poor showing for a lot of Americans who don't have the fortitude to stick to a job when the going gets a little tough. As far as warmonger, I give you Bill Clinton and his cruise missile imperialism along with his bombing of Iraq throughout his presidency. Then there is the little fact of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 signed by him. Bush is no more a warmonger than any other president has been. I think the liberals need to stop with the lies and just "move on".