HELP! About My Animal Website--What Do YOU See?
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
October 22, 2007 3:53pm CST
Okay I really need your honest input about my animal website I've been working on as I saw it today from a different angle
Now you have to realize I have a Mac computer with a 17 inch monitor...so I see things "differently" than many of you, who also might have a smaller screen.
When I look at my "If Everyone Cared-Animals" Website, I see the photos of say the first page all nicely arranged in a single row, and the captions for the photos all arranged under or over the photos to correspond to the photos..Also, the text part itself it all nice and neatly arranged.
The, today I went to the library...to save ink on my printer as I have a lot of PDF files to print out, I will use the library computers..So I had so time to kill and decided to look at my website...the library computers are Dells, and have very small monitors---YIKES!!!!!!!!
The website looks completely different..the photos are all in a jumble instead of a nice aligned row...the text looks crappy...
So my question is ... WHAT DO YOU SEE? Are you seeing the same jumble I saw when I looked at the website on the smaller screened Dell computers of the library or do you see it the way I see it on my computer...if not........back to the drawing board and I'll have to rearranged it to accomodate smaller monitors.
Here's my website
http://www.freewebs.com/ifeveryonecared-animals/
And be honest...I need to make changes if it DOES look like a jumble on smaller monitors...
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25 responses
@Lifez2short (4962)
• United States
22 Oct 07
First off I would like too say what a awesome website you have made. Now Yes I see the pictures on the top half of the page all lined up nicely. And the bottom half are as you said all jumbled up. Now keep in mind I have an even smaller screen because I'm on a laptop. Good luck with the site and I will be looking back often.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
28 Oct 07
Well I've also been puttering around with another website on the same theme but with a different webhost...
So maybe you could take a look??
http://ifeveryonecared.bravehost.com
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
23 Oct 07
First... don't freak out with that website
http://www.anybrowser.com/siteviewer.html
You should only concern yourself with the people viewing your website as HTLM 4.0 Transitional... which is the majority of the people. There should not be anyone out there still using HTLM 3.2.
(see bottom of page on that site).
I checked myLot on that site to see if they got it right... and they do... but it still display differently than in HTLM 4.0
When I did look at your site... the photos and the text at the top are all over the place... while you have no space between the text lines at the bottom.
Plus you are making the cardinal mistake of assuming that everyone is on broadband. Your page takes far too long to upload. To fix that problem... you can start by compressing your pictures to reduce their size. Your 3 cats at the top read... 135076 bytes... 224936 bytes... 271313 bytes. Each one of those pictures should not be more than 50000 bytes or less.
The monitor size has nothing to do with it. It is the resolution at which people watch things on their monitor which count.
Today... the most popular resolutions are 800x600 or 1024x768.
When you start building a website... you have to decide which of those two resolutions you are going to use.
You only need to concern yourself with the width... 800 or 1024. The height does not matter as web pages can be of any lenght.
Obviously... if you design it for 1024... it won't fit in a window of 800... and it will be all over the place.
On the other hand... if you design it in 800... and someone watch it in 1024... it won't fill the screen... but at least the design won't change and it will still look like the way you intended it to be.
To go around those problems... you don't set any dimensions in pixel. You have to do everything in percentage... including your pictures. It is a lot of work to get it right. Not a matter of hours... or even days... but more like weeks if you are a beginner.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
23 Oct 07
I just watched it in 1024... and it was a lot less all over the place... but still far from perfect.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
23 Oct 07
The size of the images is now OK.
But the look is still all over the place.
That is because you designed it in 1024... and I am looking at it in 800.
I use a resolution of 800 on my computer... so that I don't need to wear glasses. There are still many people out there using 800... the people with bad eyesight and those who are still using an old 15 inches monitor.
I don't know anything about Mac computers. In Windows... we go to control panel/display... to change our resolution. Some video cards have an icon in the system tray... and you can change your resolution from that icon.
At the end of the day... unless you build your website in 800x600... the only thing which will solve your problem is to change all your dimensions to percentage. You start with a full width of 100% for your page... and work from there.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
23 Oct 07
Hi Aussie...okay I did change the resolution of the top three cat photos by "saving for web" so instead of 300 ppi it's down to 72 ppi--so should be better...Looking at the site at that anybrowser site at HTLM 4 it does look the way I'm seeing it from my computer screen...As far as changing to the 800 x 600--how the heck does one do that??
I get a little paranoid about doing any dramatic changes on my computer since it is a Mac and I have only one friend I could call up for help as she's a Mac user...
So tell me from your point of view though...how does it look to you now??
Really appreciate the help and info!! :)
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
22 Oct 07
The site is looking good, although some of the pictures are not in a line. Some of your captions about the photos are not together. I have a 15" flat monitor. Hope that helps.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
29 Oct 07
I just did another site..the same kind at bravenet....I think the problem may have been the webhost I was using at freewebs
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
22 Oct 07
It was a little jumbled for me. A few things to realize it's not just the screen size but the size of the browser window (whether you have it at maximized or not) and more importantly the resolution of the monitor. Mine is set at 1024x768 and trust me things look very different on that in comparison to 800x600.
Something I would suggest doing is to not use pixel width/height for placement but percentages. That way if you do it by percentage width and height it will adjust to the view size. I don't know if you are doing straight html or using a builder for this. I personally like using a WYSIWYG because I can view it as I make it and I can easily set up tables to make it so that they are by percentages and things stay in line with ease. A nice free builder is NVU: http://nvudev.com/index.php They have a windows and a mac version.
I hope this helps
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
28 Oct 07
Hi :)
No it's free. Just go to the download section and it's free to download. You are right though it could be the free hosting causing the problems. I have seen that happen a lot. I've had it happen with my own when I was using free hosting.
Good luck with it
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
28 Oct 07
Took a look at NVU--you do have to pay though from what I'm gathering to use it...well that's out for now..drat...I'm not using a 800x600 but 1024x768, but it could be the freewebs host itself giving me problems--I just did another version of my site over at bravenet...
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
29 Oct 07
I love the new Bravenet site...very professional my friend. Excelllent work.
If I changed one thing it would be the message to come back and visit the site often, in the top left hand corner. It says something like I will be adding stuff onto it on a regular basis...I would delete the first 'on' as in 'onto' and just leave it as 'to'. So it reads..."I will be adding to it on a regular basis" instead.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 Oct 07
Actually I think it's the problem with the webhost itself...I do happen to have the higher resolution and on my monitor it looks fine..but I'm working on with Firefox, not IE, on a Mac computer, not a PC..so everything is different I guess...ON my computer all the captions look great and aligned..might try redoing my site on a different webhost than freewebs...
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@RosieS57 (889)
• United States
22 Oct 07
I have a smaller monitor and the pictures are in two rows and are not aligned. And the text looks like crap.
Have you thought it may be a Freewebs thing? I used All4Webs version instead which gave me more control conerning the layout of the webpage. You might want to try their free version and compare and contrast.
Since both are free you can pick the one that turns out best based on appearance rather than cost.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
23 Oct 07
There are some website hosts I can't use at all as they aren't Mac friendly and I think the All4Webs was one of them :(
@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
27 Oct 07
Are you using a program to do your page or are you writing your own code? I always write my own code, that way I can get my pages how I like them, not how the programs put them. I can help you out with the code if you want, to get it all centered on ANY size monitor. There should be commands in a program though, that will also do that. I haven't messed with it in a while, but I can look it up really quick in my book or on one of my sites that I've done to help ya out.
Let me know!
@Eskimo (2315)
•
28 Oct 07
I'm using IE6 at work (use Opera at home), I see 2 rows of photographs (3 on each row) for the first set, and for the second I see 3 photos on the first row, 1 on the second and 4 on the third. I don't see any individual captions for the photoss. It looks reasonable to me.
I would have thought that the problem would be with the browser used, rather than the size of the monitor (smaller monitors, unless very small, should show smaller pictures).
@Kowgirl (3490)
• United States
27 Oct 07
The first row of pics are in the center the ones below that are on the right.
I am using a HP laptop wide screen. The ones below look fuzzy as if they have been enlarged from smaller pics. The tex is a little crammed,words sitting on top of words. I visited the site using Firefox it may look different in IE 7. The browser, screen size, and a lot of other factors make them look different. Like the saying goes "you can please some of the people all the time, you can please all the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time."
You did a good job of getting your point across.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
28 Oct 07
The web site looks okay to me. I do think videos of the procedures would be much better. Still photos do not show what really is going on. To a casual observer, the animals appear fine. The orange tabby is just staring at the camera. The first two and the last two are the most effective because one can see that some experiments are being done. I do not know anything about the horse unless he is bound for the glue factory
@ChaJudLeoBit (1656)
• United States
25 Oct 07
Well, on this computer, the top three pictures are centered and in a row. Then the bunny is all teh way to the right on a row by herself. Then the other two pictures are on the next row to the left. The Text is all centered. I didn't like the pictures at the bottom, and don't want to scroll back down to see how things are arranged there... sorry.
@4mymak (1793)
• Malaysia
5 Nov 07
First thing = GOOD JOB!!
I really think you did a wonderful job.
But i guess you're right - my PC uses a 14-inch monitor...
the text does not look crappy - they were somewhat 'HUGE' for my screen. The pictures are properly aligned, though...
I was really glad to see the link to Malaysia's Animal Shelter.
Anyhow... GREAT JOB!...
@morgandrake (2136)
• United States
27 Oct 07
Looking at it with a 21 inch diagonal monitor, it looks jumbled, and when I go full screen some of the jumble moves, but it is still a jumble. Sorry. And I am getting some pixelization from some of the bottom images.
@3lilangels (4639)
• United States
23 Oct 07
well i think it looks great and everything seemed to be lined up pretty good on my computer which is a 17' screen.i think you did a splendid job there my friend.great photos too as well.pattie
@susieq223 (3742)
• United States
23 Oct 07
Everything lined up great on my Gateway laptop with a 15" monitor. Some of the pictures were kind of fuzzy, though. I like the background you selected for the site and I think you did a great job of setting it up!
@pismeof (855)
• United States
23 Oct 07
Hey Pye, I know that different browsers effect the way that certain websites look.There is also a difference when you use
a Mac vs Pc when you set-up the site.If you get a chance go and visit Sitepoint.com they explain it better then I ever could in one of their forum topics.
@ctrymuziklvr (11057)
• United States
23 Oct 07
I don't see any captions under the pictures at all. As for the alignment there are 3 pictures on top and 3 below but not aligned at all. One tip I would give you is with the text...I would use columns instead of just writing across the page the way you did. Maybe a column about something and a picture or two beside it. This is just my opinion.
@Countrymom (371)
• United States
23 Oct 07
On my 17 inch monitor running on linux not windows it looks good. Except for the pictures at the bottom, the text bleeds over into the pictures and they are all jumbled. The pictures of the animals that are cared for and those in testing labs all showed up great. Great website but I would definitely fix the bottom section.